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Let us updated, i opened almost 1M battlechips when the uncollected arena crystal was first introduced, than i think over another million during the lapse of time from that day to yesterday before maintenance
Not mentioning that after day 1 those crystal are no more giving same units drop, i'm literally upset that the most desired prize of those crystals was not obtainable
Please look for a possible solution
Thanks for take your time to check this thing
I opened about a million worth on day 1, then after @Kabam Miike said 70 people had pulled him I continued to open them. I really think we need an explanation here and not just some cover-up
It doesn't necessarily mean he was added late. It could be that they pulled him then. It is possible that people roiled him and didn't post it to Reddit. It's also possible they just pulled him now. Just being Devil's Advocate. Sometimes we can be too quick to jump to conspiracy.
It doesn't necessarily mean he was added late. It could be that they pulled him then. It is possible that people roiled him and didn't post it to Reddit. It's also possible they just pulled him now. Just being Devil's Advocate. Sometimes we can be too quick to jump to conspiracy.
No it's almost impossible that he was actually available to be pulled and not a single one was shared on Reddit, on the many line chats, on Facebook, etc.
It doesn't necessarily mean he was added late. It could be that they pulled him then. It is possible that people roiled him and didn't post it to Reddit. It's also possible they just pulled him now. Just being Devil's Advocate. Sometimes we can be too quick to jump to conspiracy.
Yeah totally. People always wait 3 weeks before posting when they pull good champs. Great point!!
It is possible that he was added when the Crystal was released. That's all I'm saying. People jump to conclusions when it doesn't even make sense to keep him out of it. Unless there was some mistake, which is always possible. We will have to wait and hear back. The point I'm trying to make is just because we haven't heard of anyone pulling him doesn't mean he wasn't added. He's rare. The suspicion has been floating around since the release of the Crystal, and there's nothing to base that on other than RNG.
My guess is that @Kabam Miike wasn't lying (intentionally) when he said 70ish were pulled within the first few hours. We know from this statement that they're able to pull reports on various pulls.
So the back-end reporting was giving that information. But I do think that the information was wrong; I think the coding was bad, and what should have been a 5* pull (and was getting reported this way) was actually only rewarding the 4* version.
If that many were actually rewarded within the first few hours, SOMEONE (maybe not the actual person, but someone from their alliance) would have posted something that would have circulated Line, reddit, etc. But nothing did, because no one actually got a 5* until after maintenance.
This is what my money is on, but I highly doubt we'll get a full admission if this is the case, because there's likely no way for Kabam to fix this for everyone because there were just way too many crystals opened.
My guess is that @Kabam Miike wasn't lying (intentionally) when he said 70ish were pulled within the first few hours. We know from this statement that they're able to pull reports on various pulls.
So the back-end reporting was giving that information. But I do think that the information was wrong; I think the coding was bad, and what should have been a 5* pull (and was getting reported this way) was actually only rewarding the 4* version.
If that many were actually rewarded within the first few hours, SOMEONE (maybe not the actual person, but someone from their alliance) would have posted something that would have circulated Line, reddit, etc. But nothing did, because no one actually got a 5* until after maintenance.
This is what my money is on, but I highly doubt we'll get a full admission if this is the case, because there's likely no way for Kabam to fix this for everyone because there were just way too many crystals opened.
That's under the assumption that whoever pulled him is circulating that information on those channels. It's RNG. Pretty much the same as how often we pull a 4* from PHC, although I don't know the actual numbers. Just giving a point of reference. Sometimes we go months without them. He's likely as rare as the 4* is in the regular Crystal. Word-of-mouth is not exactly a reliable source for a few weeks sample size. People who have access to said Crystals are everyone who has finished 5.2, and that is not an automatic indication we will hear about it on Reddit or Line, or that they feel the need to broadcast it for that matter.
My guess is that @Kabam Miike wasn't lying (intentionally) when he said 70ish were pulled within the first few hours. We know from this statement that they're able to pull reports on various pulls.
So the back-end reporting was giving that information. But I do think that the information was wrong; I think the coding was bad, and what should have been a 5* pull (and was getting reported this way) was actually only rewarding the 4* version.
If that many were actually rewarded within the first few hours, SOMEONE (maybe not the actual person, but someone from their alliance) would have posted something that would have circulated Line, reddit, etc. But nothing did, because no one actually got a 5* until after maintenance.
This is what my money is on, but I highly doubt we'll get a full admission if this is the case, because there's likely no way for Kabam to fix this for everyone because there were just way too many crystals opened.
That's under the assumption that whoever pulled him is circulating that information on those channels. It's RNG. Pretty much the same as how often we pull a 4* from PHC, although I don't know the actual numbers. Just giving a point of reference. Sometimes we go months without them. He's likely as rare as the 4* is in the regular Crystal. Word-of-mouth is not exactly a reliable source for a few weeks sample size. People who have access to said Crystals are everyone who has finished 5.2, and that is not an automatic indication we will hear about it on Reddit or Line, or that they feel the need to broadcast it for that matter.
If 70 were pulled within the first few hours, thousands would have been pulled by now. Even if the person that pulled him wouldn't broadcast, someone from their alliance would have captured a screenshot showing that someone in their alliance pulled one. Something would have been legitimately posted.
I opened over a 100 uncollected crystals last month... Would be really disappointing if I had reduced odds of getting that 5-star Punisher, especially seeing the number of 4-star punishers that dropped in our alliance
If it turns out to be a case of the game reporting 5* pulls, but actually rewarding something else, I would hope they would be able to go back and look at each reported 5* pull and see which players pulled the "5* Punisher". If that's something they can do, they could just give 5* Punisher to the players that should've gotten him and that would be a fair fix.
It doesn't necessarily mean he was added late. It could be that they pulled him then. It is possible that people roiled him and didn't post it to Reddit. It's also possible they just pulled him now. Just being Devil's Advocate. Sometimes we can be too quick to jump to conspiracy.
I know you don't have an "uncollected" title but have you gotten your Kabam title yet?
My guess is that @Kabam Miike wasn't lying (intentionally) when he said 70ish were pulled within the first few hours. We know from this statement that they're able to pull reports on various pulls.
So the back-end reporting was giving that information. But I do think that the information was wrong; I think the coding was bad, and what should have been a 5* pull (and was getting reported this way) was actually only rewarding the 4* version.
If that many were actually rewarded within the first few hours, SOMEONE (maybe not the actual person, but someone from their alliance) would have posted something that would have circulated Line, reddit, etc. But nothing did, because no one actually got a 5* until after maintenance.
This is what my money is on, but I highly doubt we'll get a full admission if this is the case, because there's likely no way for Kabam to fix this for everyone because there were just way too many crystals opened.
That's under the assumption that whoever pulled him is circulating that information on those channels. It's RNG. Pretty much the same as how often we pull a 4* from PHC, although I don't know the actual numbers. Just giving a point of reference. Sometimes we go months without them. He's likely as rare as the 4* is in the regular Crystal. Word-of-mouth is not exactly a reliable source for a few weeks sample size. People who have access to said Crystals are everyone who has finished 5.2, and that is not an automatic indication we will hear about it on Reddit or Line, or that they feel the need to broadcast it for that matter.
If 70 were pulled within the first few hours, thousands would have been pulled by now. Even if the person that pulled him wouldn't broadcast, someone from their alliance would have captured a screenshot showing that someone in their alliance pulled one. Something would have been legitimately posted.
If their internal statistics say that 70 pulled him, I'm more apt to believe that than Reddit. What we have is circumstantial evidence. 2 people pulled him after Maintenance, most likely because that's when they waited to open their Crystals in anticipation of the new 5*'s. Most commonly, people open them in batches along with other Crystals. I have no idea why 70 did in the first hour, but think of how often we see a 4* Punisher pulled from the other Crystal. I will wait to hear what the team says, but it feels like conclusions to me. There is nothing concrete to base it on other than "Bragger's Rights", or the lack thereof. Just an air of suspicion generated because no one on those channels reported getting him yet.
It doesn't necessarily mean he was added late. It could be that they pulled him then. It is possible that people roiled him and didn't post it to Reddit. It's also possible they just pulled him now. Just being Devil's Advocate. Sometimes we can be too quick to jump to conspiracy.
I know you don't have an "uncollected" title but have you gotten your Kabam title yet?
There are few more of them always try to prove kabam is never wrong saint like, even if kabam's officials says " sorry we messed up".
That's great to hear that you are looking into it. This reminded me of that new years crystal(I think) that was supposed to have all the featured champs in it but didn't and everyone realized it after no one pulled those champs.
There is no looking into it. Either the update fixed it or it didn't. They know this answer. Saying you are looking into it might as well be, yes he wasn't there, no we won't admit it
That's under the assumption that whoever pulled him is circulating that information on those channels. It's RNG. Pretty much the same as how often we pull a 4* from PHC, although I don't know the actual numbers. Just giving a point of reference. Sometimes we go months without them. He's likely as rare as the 4* is in the regular Crystal. Word-of-mouth is not exactly a reliable source for a few weeks sample size. People who have access to said Crystals are everyone who has finished 5.2, and that is not an automatic indication we will hear about it on Reddit or Line, or that they feel the need to broadcast it for that matter.
He's the Unicorn of all Unicorns right now. Anyone who pulled him would be literally shouting it from the rooftops. To suggest that of 70 players who theoretically pulled him in the first day after his availability none of them--not one--sent a screen shot to someone else either on an alliance chat or on some of the many larger veteran chats or that their screenshot didn't get forwarded to anyone else on any of thousands of readily accessible MCoC chats is silly. Add to that the fact that only Uncollected players--all veterans playing at a reasonably high level and with the most BCs to burn--would be eligible to land the Unicorn and it seems even more ridiculous. The act of showing off pulls, both good and bad, is practically a game within the game.
That doesn't automatically mean there is a Kabam conspiracy. But it does, as several posters suggest, merit at least a nominal response from Kabam that restores a little faith in their in-game processes.
Everyone has it all wrong! When they say they are going to get the team to look into it, what they mean is, "Who screwed up and added 5* punisher into the battlechips during the maintenance? We weren't supposed to really add it in for another 6 months."
I really don't think he was in there because I never saw anyone get one until maintenance. I opened at least 2 million bc
10 million bc opened and no 5 * punisher
You kinda wonder if they screwed this up high I believe they did. how many other un reported screw ups have they done. I mean when the dorm 5* feàtured crystal came out. I tried 5 and missed. Maybe they messed that up first 10 minutes. Who knows. Again all
Speculation but we know their track record of screw ups
It doesn't necessarily mean he was added late. It could be that they pulled him then. It is possible that people roiled him and didn't post it to Reddit. It's also possible they just pulled him now. Just being Devil's Advocate. Sometimes we can be too quick to jump to conspiracy.
No it really isn't. The only people that had a chance for the 5* Punisher were people who had Uncollected title, which means it's limited to people very dedicated to the game. Such people are almost all in alliances, and usually higher tier ones. Higher Tier alliances are made up of people very much in the "community" of the game. When the entire community was asking for proof about a 5* Punisher not one person came forward with a screenshot or even anecdotal evidence of seeing it show up on their Alliance tab.
The chances of no one in any alliance seeing proof of these alleged 70 5* Punishers is literally 0.
Well. I'm in a very large alliance and I can tell you no one has pulled him yet and there were a lot of people who tried. I had my doubts he existed the first couple of days because of this.
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Let us updated, i opened almost 1M battlechips when the uncollected arena crystal was first introduced, than i think over another million during the lapse of time from that day to yesterday before maintenance
Not mentioning that after day 1 those crystal are no more giving same units drop, i'm literally upset that the most desired prize of those crystals was not obtainable
Please look for a possible solution
Thanks for take your time to check this thing
No it's almost impossible that he was actually available to be pulled and not a single one was shared on Reddit, on the many line chats, on Facebook, etc.
Yeah totally. People always wait 3 weeks before posting when they pull good champs. Great point!!
So the back-end reporting was giving that information. But I do think that the information was wrong; I think the coding was bad, and what should have been a 5* pull (and was getting reported this way) was actually only rewarding the 4* version.
If that many were actually rewarded within the first few hours, SOMEONE (maybe not the actual person, but someone from their alliance) would have posted something that would have circulated Line, reddit, etc. But nothing did, because no one actually got a 5* until after maintenance.
This is what my money is on, but I highly doubt we'll get a full admission if this is the case, because there's likely no way for Kabam to fix this for everyone because there were just way too many crystals opened.
That's under the assumption that whoever pulled him is circulating that information on those channels. It's RNG. Pretty much the same as how often we pull a 4* from PHC, although I don't know the actual numbers. Just giving a point of reference. Sometimes we go months without them. He's likely as rare as the 4* is in the regular Crystal. Word-of-mouth is not exactly a reliable source for a few weeks sample size. People who have access to said Crystals are everyone who has finished 5.2, and that is not an automatic indication we will hear about it on Reddit or Line, or that they feel the need to broadcast it for that matter.
If 70 were pulled within the first few hours, thousands would have been pulled by now. Even if the person that pulled him wouldn't broadcast, someone from their alliance would have captured a screenshot showing that someone in their alliance pulled one. Something would have been legitimately posted.
Seatin has his suspicions too.
Expert fallacy
I know you don't have an "uncollected" title but have you gotten your Kabam title yet?
If their internal statistics say that 70 pulled him, I'm more apt to believe that than Reddit. What we have is circumstantial evidence. 2 people pulled him after Maintenance, most likely because that's when they waited to open their Crystals in anticipation of the new 5*'s. Most commonly, people open them in batches along with other Crystals. I have no idea why 70 did in the first hour, but think of how often we see a 4* Punisher pulled from the other Crystal. I will wait to hear what the team says, but it feels like conclusions to me. There is nothing concrete to base it on other than "Bragger's Rights", or the lack thereof. Just an air of suspicion generated because no one on those channels reported getting him yet.
There are few more of them always try to prove kabam is never wrong saint like, even if kabam's officials says " sorry we messed up".
10 million bc opened and no 5 * punisher
Alliance member 5.48 million and no 5* punisher
Speculation but we know their track record of screw ups
No it really isn't. The only people that had a chance for the 5* Punisher were people who had Uncollected title, which means it's limited to people very dedicated to the game. Such people are almost all in alliances, and usually higher tier ones. Higher Tier alliances are made up of people very much in the "community" of the game. When the entire community was asking for proof about a 5* Punisher not one person came forward with a screenshot or even anecdotal evidence of seeing it show up on their Alliance tab.
The chances of no one in any alliance seeing proof of these alleged 70 5* Punishers is literally 0.