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  • mrfootball1988mrfootball1988 Member Posts: 14
    Imo that would have been game changing
  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    I don’t think you’ve seen what they’ve done. After this season shells are useless because the 1700 shell you left behind can’t get you to masters or even p1 any anymore. We are adding +188/war.

    Shells will be gone
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,330 ★★★★★

    Think it would of been more efficient just to set ever alliance to 0 and start from there. Like the game had just started

    Then it’s really silly cause if you lose, you’ll get stuck at 0. And if you lose 10 wars consecutively, you’ll still be stuck at 0, and a different type of thread will appear saying how unfair it is that low alliances are matching stronger alliances and losing despite having the same war rating (0).

    It’s already happened/happening now. Lol.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,796 Guardian
    The 1683 Ally running only 2 BG probably has a smaller pool of close WR Ally’s to fight (and hopefully if they don’t match same teams twice in a season) they would have to dig down to potentially your lower WR for some of their matches (if not enough in 2 BG pool up where they are).

    So not necessarily that there aren’t enough down by your 1298, but instead probably because not enough up where they are at 1683.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,330 ★★★★★
    rwhack said:

    I don’t think you’ve seen what they’ve done. After this season shells are useless because the 1700 shell you left behind can’t get you to masters or even p1 any anymore. We are adding +188/war.

    Shells will be gone

    Don’t underestimate top alliances that shell. Some of them spend money to buy alliances at suitable war ratings, or use their alts to push the ratings of those lower alliances up.
  • Speeds80Speeds80 Member Posts: 2,017 ★★★★
    Everybody should realise that gw has already acknowledged that in the long run the new system Is fairer. He is just nit picking as that’s what he does, he’s focusing on the point that each fight was fairer in the old system even though he knows the overall system was less fair because it was exploitable. When compared the the current wars he has a point, each fight was fairer than these fights, Overall the system he’s not even trying to say was better, he’s not that stupid. he also keeps winding people up by saying that it was fair that 30m alliances like mine were stuck in t11 since they couldn’t win more than 60% of their fights, which everybody that’s read this forum has realised that an alliance facing teams 6 tiers and 6 reward divisions lower than it was breaking the exploitable system, thing is he isn’t bringing anything to the table except toxicity at this Point and I suggest everybody just leaves him to complain about whatever he wants, kabam isn’t listening to him, I would love to see every body pick a slogan and just repeat the same thing over to him again, like “overall this system is fairer, thanks for your concern”

    those teams who had bloated rewards and whose skill, tier and experienced weren’t being recognised by providing them with actual healthy competition. Much better for their growth in skill which will actually get them further in the game than gifted six star shards who are actually probably going more to the vets second alliances than the growing new alliances that actually need them
  • Etm34Etm34 Member Posts: 1,667 ★★★★★
    Alliance war has been suck for a while now. Never going to get any better too.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Etm34 said:

    Alliance war has been suck for a while now. Never going to get any better too.

    How is it not going to get better? As the war ratings change people will get matched appropriately.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,330 ★★★★★
    0casual0 said:

    How tf did my alliance ended up against bunch of 5-6 stars alliance when my alliance only have 4 stars at most. This game is broken af.

    Same war ratings? Working as intended.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★

    Kabam what is going on with War matchmaking. Currently my ally is taking a break from war due to this very unfair matchmaking. I’ve lost 6 members because of it. What are you guys doing to fix the issue pertaining to Alliance War Matchmaking?

    War ratings are skewed due to the previous system. It'll start to get better each week until alliances are where they ought to be. There is no way to fix it other than to play war.
  • Dr_Z01dbergDr_Z01dberg Member Posts: 512 ★★★
    Kerka00 said:



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    That is not a match to complain about!

    War rating is the same and there is a 7m difference in rating and 500 in prestige...

    We have a similar matchup our prestige is 400 lower than theirs and rating 7m less. None of us were complaining and currently we are 25 kills ahead with both sides clearing 90 defenders

    If you want the rewards for the higher tiers then fight for them! AW is simple, you guys play well and you’ll win. Wars are always going to be easy and hard. It’s the hard ones that define your season not the easy ones.
  • Szapi85Szapi85 Member Posts: 6
    We don’t have problemes with shell alliances, we simply can’t believe that we just need to get matched with alliances that are way much szeonger than we are. Yes, on tier 7 maps we still have some chances, but as long as our average rating is at 600k we cannot keep up with our opponents at an average of 1.1m. That is simply not fair. Thay need to finetune this, or else alliances keep on leavong war, which will leed to another inbalanced matchmaking. Noone likes to spend resources on wars that you cannot win...
  • MariaJeanMariaJean Member Posts: 33
    Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.



  • MariaJeanMariaJean Member Posts: 33
    *Copied my comment from another thread*
    Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.


  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Speeds80 said:

    Everybody should realise that gw has already acknowledged that in the long run the new system Is fairer. He is just nit picking as that’s what he does, he’s focusing on the point that each fight was fairer in the old system even though he knows the overall system was less fair because it was exploitable. When compared the the current wars he has a point, each fight was fairer than these fights, Overall the system he’s not even trying to say was better, he’s not that stupid. he also keeps winding people up by saying that it was fair that 30m alliances like mine were stuck in t11 since they couldn’t win more than 60% of their fights, which everybody that’s read this forum has realised that an alliance facing teams 6 tiers and 6 reward divisions lower than it was breaking the exploitable system, thing is he isn’t bringing anything to the table except toxicity at this Point and I suggest everybody just leaves him to complain about whatever he wants, kabam isn’t listening to him, I would love to see every body pick a slogan and just repeat the same thing over to him again, like “overall this system is fairer, thanks for your concern”

    those teams who had bloated rewards and whose skill, tier and experienced weren’t being recognised by providing them with actual healthy competition. Much better for their growth in skill which will actually get them further in the game than gifted six star shards who are actually probably going more to the vets second alliances than the growing new alliances that actually need them

    Literally said nothing like that.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    MariaJean said:

    *Copied my comment from another thread*
    Honestly it completely screws up matchups. Our ally (31.4 mill) is up against beginners (their ally is barely over 5 mill with most players having r2 5 stars as their top champs). So what if it's any easy win for us, it isn't even fun for anyone. Doesn't help our team get better and probably discourages these new players from staying. There is no way this should happen.


    Matches are screwed up in the short term due to alliance rating getting screwed up. I agree that the short term is unfortunate but it'll be better going forward.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Ah yes. Let's come up with another analogy to justify screwing people over.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★

    Ah yes. Let's come up with another analogy to justify screwing people over.

    No one is getting screwed over. The alliances who are getting bad matches due to inflated war ratings are far better off with the rewards they have already banked. That doesn't mean the handful of rough matches they are facing don't suck. Sure they do. Run no items wars and see where you land. But they aren't getting screwed.
  • RethadwRethadw Member Posts: 1
    Hi Kabam
    I’m the leader of Wasteland(Wstea). We have read the information you guys shared mentioning that you're trying to improve the Alliance war experience with new changes.However war matchmaking based on just War Rating has been a pain the ass for alliance these days and seems just illogical. As sawgat mentioned we have been facing alliances who’s ratings and prestige are twice as much as ours. it's an issue that needs you guys take your time and resolve immediately. Even the alliance who are benefiting from this facing opponents they should have faced few years back are saying this is totally unfair to everyone
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★

    Ah yes. Let's come up with another analogy to justify screwing people over.

    No one is getting screwed over. The alliances who are getting bad matches due to inflated war ratings are far better off with the rewards they have already banked. That doesn't mean the handful of rough matches they are facing don't suck. Sure they do. Run no items wars and see where you land. But they aren't getting screwed.
    They're getting screwed. Being placed in Matches they have no chance of winning screws their Final Rankings in the Season. I called this the second they announced it. The only people benefitting from this are the ones high enough not to be affected, and the ones on the lower end of the mismatches are losing potential Wins through absolutely no control of their own. If they have no chance of winning, then the Season is not a fair competition. No one is truly earning anything in this. Not the larger ones or the lower ones. You can all say it's just the system fixing itself, but it's just a joke.
  • Sensei_MaatSensei_Maat Member Posts: 396 ★★★
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/208267/matchmaking-discussion-merged-threads#latest

    there is a big thread about this.
    please read it and reply there instead of making a new one.

    the problems with current matrchmaking are temporary and will be resolved in time.
    they have arisen due to season upon season of a bad unfair matchmaking system that has lead to little allies rising much higher then their skill should have allowed whilst causing big allies to get stuck low.
    this will be rectified in time however will require an adjustment period which will involve bad match ups.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    I'd suggest reading glasses.
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