Alliance Quest Feedback [Merged Threads]

og_steele

A bit toxic aren’t they? First one; Cascading Failure.

Every critical hit starts a 2 second timer in which if another crit is done during the timer it restarts the timer and applies a 4 second debuff. Once 4 debuffs are applied a 15% health degen is then applied.

Lvernon15

No buffed rewards? My ally is going to be getting an extra 10% t5cc weekly

Edeuink

If you don’t like the new epic modifiers, just don’t use them.

ItsDamien

og_steele said:

A bit toxic aren’t they? First one; Cascading Failure.

Every critical hit starts a 2 second timer in which if another crit is done during the timer it restarts the timer and applies a 4 second debuff. Once 4 debuffs are applied a 15% health degen is then applied.

Bruh.... WHY DO THEY KEEP ADDING TOXIC **** TO THIS GAME?!?! And no buff to rank rewards for AQ? So make the modifiers twice as difficult but don’t buff rewards. Makes plenty of sense.

I mean. You can learn to use different champs that won't be affected by that? Just an idea.

danielmath

ItsDamien said:

og_steele said:

A bit toxic aren’t they? First one; Cascading Failure.

Every critical hit starts a 2 second timer in which if another crit is done during the timer it restarts the timer and applies a 4 second debuff. Once 4 debuffs are applied a 15% health degen is then applied.

Bruh.... WHY DO THEY KEEP ADDING TOXIC **** TO THIS GAME?!?! And no buff to rank rewards for AQ? So make the modifiers twice as difficult but don’t buff rewards. Makes plenty of sense.

I mean. You can learn to use different champs that won't be affected by that? Just an idea.

Actually, the champs that always crit are the easist b/c you can just do 2 hits with corv, backup, parry, repeat, etc.

ItsDamien

danielmath said:

ItsDamien said:

og_steele said:

A bit toxic aren’t they? First one; Cascading Failure.

Every critical hit starts a 2 second timer in which if another crit is done during the timer it restarts the timer and applies a 4 second debuff. Once 4 debuffs are applied a 15% health degen is then applied.

Bruh.... WHY DO THEY KEEP ADDING TOXIC **** TO THIS GAME?!?! And no buff to rank rewards for AQ? So make the modifiers twice as difficult but don’t buff rewards. Makes plenty of sense.

I mean. You can learn to use different champs that won't be affected by that? Just an idea.

Actually, the champs that always crit are the easist b/c you can just do 2 hits with corv, backup, parry, repeat, etc.

Point would still stand then. Use champs that won't be affected by it.

danielmath

ItsDamien said:

danielmath said:

ItsDamien said:

og_steele said:

A bit toxic aren’t they? First one; Cascading Failure.

Every critical hit starts a 2 second timer in which if another crit is done during the timer it restarts the timer and applies a 4 second debuff. Once 4 debuffs are applied a 15% health degen is then applied.

Bruh.... WHY DO THEY KEEP ADDING TOXIC **** TO THIS GAME?!?! And no buff to rank rewards for AQ? So make the modifiers twice as difficult but don’t buff rewards. Makes plenty of sense.

I mean. You can learn to use different champs that won't be affected by that? Just an idea.

Actually, the champs that always crit are the easist b/c you can just do 2 hits with corv, backup, parry, repeat, etc.

Point would still stand then. Use champs that won't be affected by it.

i'm not saying it's hard, that's basically a nothing global, much easier then kinetic transference or brute force

TheTalents

I think the 50% attack and health increase is a little too much. Other than that I will save my judgment for the modifiers.

Jaded

Lvernon15 said:

No buffed rewards? My ally is going to be getting an extra 10% t5cc weekly

Damn straight you guys are

Demonzfyre

Y'all wanted better rewards. This is how you get them.

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TheTalents

We need heal block removed from Epic modifiers Cascade failure and so Sayeth doom immediately. Theres is no champion that is deals posion for damage and is immune to shock. It can be survived with will power but both of those nodes place a heal block. Kabam needs to change the damage to 50% reduction in attack for acid wash or remove the heal block from the modifiers. It's not a practical node and needs to be changed.

Patchie93

Or you follow the prompts and don't get heal blocked

Patchie93

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

Or you follow the prompts and don't get heal blocked

There's no fantastic 4 character that deals posion damage. Do you even play map 7? We don't need trolling right now.

Thats why you deal with the prompts. From so sayeth doom and just work around the critcal timers.
Not trolling saying exactly what you need to do to avoid the heal block

KingKevin8

@Patchie93 Can you explain to me how to deal with an acid wash Hulkbuster? As far as I’m concerned, there is no champion that is immune to shock and deals poison. If you actually read the thread you would understand that he said if you remove the heal block, the other debuffs would allow you to offset the shock damage and not just die because no champion has been made to deal with the fight presented in map 7.

Agent_X_zzz

KingKevin8 said:

@Patchie93 Can you explain to me how to deal with an acid wash Hulkbuster? As far as I’m concerned, there is no champion that is immune to shock and deals poison. If you actually read the thread you would understand that he said if you remove the heal block, the other debuffs would allow you to offset the shock damage and not just die because no champion has been made to deal with the fight presented in map 7.

yea there is no champ in the game that deals poison and is shock immune, a very bad node combo by kabam and needs to be switched.

LilMaddogHT

Spent 90 minutes with my Voodoo timing out on Hulkbuster to get him down. Time out x3 and then try to heal after since the heal block gets removed. Hopefully heal enough to get some damage in, pause before HB shocks almost kill you again or possible before you get heal blocked again... it was NOT pretty.

So Sayeth Doom is somewhat a tough node. Getting a special off, debuff, or evading isn’t so much a problem but maybe just me, but the AI would go passive for me and I wasn’t able to always able get the intercept in.

I think having 2 prompts in the 17 secs is a bit much ‘particularly’ when they double up, 2 specials or 2 intercepts (particularly when the AI goes passive on ya).

Having the 4 various debuffs on you isn’t all that threatening except on particular matchups/nodes.

Of my biggest concerns about this modifier is that ZERO examples of how it would work was shared by the game team... I was having to pause mid-fight and check the display text to figure out what the prompt was since there was no text call-outs. That interrupts the rhythm of the fight. I failed to get one of the first intercepts On my first fight because I didn’t know what the baseball club looking icon meant and I was heal blocked... that last 3 more fights! Now being heal blocked on the acid line isn’t a problem EXCEPT for the Hulkbuster. So one failed prompt really screws you over and there isn’t any way to get rid of it (except doing 3 more fights) so this I resorted to the behavior Kabam doesn’t want to see - forced time outs...

If Kabam leaves as is, it would be really beneficial to have a way to remove it besides having a champ that can naturally shrug off debuffs like Aegon, NF, etc can.

I’m not complaining and I should make it thru but I’ve spent more time in phase 1/2 trying to recover from this w/o spending all my items than I probably spent playing all of AQ last week...

Lizer0119

I assume they will end up nerfing So-Sayeth-Doom a bit, and giving only 1 prompt every 17 seconds instead of 2. Definitely a jump in difficulty, but yeah it allows more skilled players with lower prestige an opportunity to get some t5cc and less skilled players with higher prestige can just continue to collect top 5 ranks rewards. Doesn't exactly even out, but it's a better way of making AQ/prestige so pay to win, in my opinion.

CoatHang3r

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

Or you follow the prompts and don't get heal blocked

There's no fantastic 4 character that deals posion damage. Do you even play map 7? We don't need trolling right now.

Thats why you deal with the prompts. From so sayeth doom and just work around the critcal timers.
Not trolling saying exactly what you need to do to avoid the heal block

Go ahead and read the so sayeth Doom prompt again and explain to me who to bring and how to avoid shock damage to beat this fight. You're wasting time.

King Groot, get the debuffs on a previous fight and shrug them off to start HB.

TheTalents

CoatHang3r said:

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

Or you follow the prompts and don't get heal blocked

There's no fantastic 4 character that deals posion damage. Do you even play map 7? We don't need trolling right now.

Thats why you deal with the prompts. From so sayeth doom and just work around the critcal timers.
Not trolling saying exactly what you need to do to avoid the heal block

Go ahead and read the so sayeth Doom prompt again and explain to me who to bring and how to avoid shock damage to beat this fight. You're wasting time.

King Groot, get the debuffs on a previous fight and shrug them off to start HB.

The first fight was 110k health. King groot is a pillow puncher. He's not practical either.

TheTalents

Worknprogress said:

Lizer0119 said:

I assume they will end up nerfing So-Sayeth-Doom a bit, and giving only 1 prompt every 17 seconds instead of 2. Definitely a jump in difficulty, but yeah it allows more skilled players with lower prestige an opportunity to get some t5cc and less skilled players with higher prestige can just continue to collect top 5 ranks rewards. Doesn't exactly even out, but it's a better way of making AQ/prestige so pay to win, in my opinion.

What a prestige hater. Smh

You have an answer for acid wash so sayeth doom modifiers day 2 map 7?

Worknprogress

TheTalents said:

Worknprogress said:

Lizer0119 said:

I assume they will end up nerfing So-Sayeth-Doom a bit, and giving only 1 prompt every 17 seconds instead of 2. Definitely a jump in difficulty, but yeah it allows more skilled players with lower prestige an opportunity to get some t5cc and less skilled players with higher prestige can just continue to collect top 5 ranks rewards. Doesn't exactly even out, but it's a better way of making AQ/prestige so pay to win, in my opinion.

What a prestige hater. Smh

You have an answer for acid wash so sayeth doom modifiers day 2 map 7?

Not my path and I'm not exactly sure who all each group is using. Pretty sure BG using KG though. Think he just uploaded a vid of it actually

Worknprogress

Pretty sure they were some long fights though

LilMaddogHT

CoatHang3r said:

King Groot, get the debuffs on a previous fight and shrug them off to start HB.

Yep KG would be an excellent counter here. Unfortunately Kabam hasn’t giving me the RNG to have such a glorious 5* or 6* champ (I have 126 5* & 44 6*). Looks like we will have to swap up some paths to fit in a KG going forward.

Worknprogress

Can't really think of a "good" option. You could try to play really well and never get the debuffs on you but the AI is rarely going to cooperate with that. Other than that, timeouts with voodoo until the debuffs clear on the HB fight maybe, that probably the hardest one

CoatHang3r

LilMaddogHT said:

CoatHang3r said:

King Groot, get the debuffs on a previous fight and shrug them off to start HB.

Yep KG would be an excellent counter here. Unfortunately Kabam hasn’t giving me the RNG to have such a glorious 5* or 6* champ (I have 126 5* & 44 6*). Looks like we will have to swap up some paths to fit in a KG going forward.

Do you do all 10 paths on 1 account?

danielmath

TheTalents said:

Worknprogress said:

Lizer0119 said:

I assume they will end up nerfing So-Sayeth-Doom a bit, and giving only 1 prompt every 17 seconds instead of 2. Definitely a jump in difficulty, but yeah it allows more skilled players with lower prestige an opportunity to get some t5cc and less skilled players with higher prestige can just continue to collect top 5 ranks rewards. Doesn't exactly even out, but it's a better way of making AQ/prestige so pay to win, in my opinion.

What a prestige hater. Smh

You have an answer for acid wash so sayeth doom modifiers day 2 map 7?

you won't have that, the doom mod is only 1 day, it's not a 5 day global

CoatHang3r

TheTalents said:

CoatHang3r said:

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

TheTalents said:

Patchie93 said:

Or you follow the prompts and don't get heal blocked

There's no fantastic 4 character that deals posion damage. Do you even play map 7? We don't need trolling right now.

Thats why you deal with the prompts. From so sayeth doom and just work around the critcal timers.
Not trolling saying exactly what you need to do to avoid the heal block

Go ahead and read the so sayeth Doom prompt again and explain to me who to bring and how to avoid shock damage to beat this fight. You're wasting time.

King Groot, get the debuffs on a previous fight and shrug them off to start HB.

The first fight was 110k health. King groot is a pillow puncher. He's not practical either.

You should prolly surrender that fight to someone who isn’t so biased.

LilMaddogHT

CoatHang3r said:

Do you do all 10 paths on 1 account?

Of course not! 😅

Worknprogress

danielmath said:

TheTalents said:

Worknprogress said:

Lizer0119 said:

I assume they will end up nerfing So-Sayeth-Doom a bit, and giving only 1 prompt every 17 seconds instead of 2. Definitely a jump in difficulty, but yeah it allows more skilled players with lower prestige an opportunity to get some t5cc and less skilled players with higher prestige can just continue to collect top 5 ranks rewards. Doesn't exactly even out, but it's a better way of making AQ/prestige so pay to win, in my opinion.

What a prestige hater. Smh

You have an answer for acid wash so sayeth doom modifiers day 2 map 7?

you won't have that, the doom mod is only 1 day, it's not a 5 day global

I was assuming they ran something else day 1, which would be a mistake