The new war matchmaking system is really worst than ever

We are fighting a alliance that members has around 10k prestige rate last season we didn't lose a single war but this new matchmaking war system is really unfair able you can see the screenshot and tell is this any match?

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CaptainGame

Which they will have when they are at a tier with those matched at their levels.

Lormif

That is because your war rating was artificially high and theirs artificially low. You could fight in different bg groups or skip this one knowing the transition, or you could just give up on these fights until you get to more evenly matched wars.

Jbwilde

It’s fixed end of story. My 42m alliance sat in p4 for too long. Because we kept getting matched against 50m alliances. While there were dudes with 20-30m in p2-p3 explain to me how it’s fair that we’re not ranked higher even if we’re better than those 20-30m alliances. We would never get matched against those guys because our prestige was too high so we couldn’t find out who deserves to be there more.

Frosty

You seem to want to ignore what appears to be the majority. The old matchmaking did not distribute rewards fairly.

What about everyones game experience who wanted this change, does their experience mean nothing. If everyone gives this some time to see which system works better/fair then start the compliant threads

GroundedWisdom

Mine wasn't really. I'm not speaking for myself. I wasn't affected.
I find it funny how people are willing to tell others they can just give up when they're not willing to give up their own Season. They might as well just come out and say, "We matter and you don't.".
This "transition phase" is what people are being affected by, and it's affecting their Season and their motivation to even play. That's the bottom line. Whether the system affected others before or not, that effect is here now. That can't just be ignored or brushed off.

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GroundedWisdom

One problem doesn't justify solving another.

xNig

If you’re not speaking for yourself then keep quiet and let others speak for themselves. They have fingers to type.

I find it funny how people are willing to tell others they are wrong when things doesn’t even concern them.

And once again, no suggestions. Just blank talk. In my culture we call this “the explosion behind the horse”.

Lormif

So when a 30m alliance got placed against a 50m alliance in the previous season because it went off prestige regardless of skill, then what? who mattered then? What is happening now to the lower end alliances happened to the higher end alliances for the past several wars, did they not matter? What about the motivation and the season that was affected for them? I did not state to give up, I said you COULD give up, and then gave 2 other options. You complain about people taking your posts out of context then do it to other people.

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xNig

Yeah that’s what he means.

We could just wait for 1-2 more weeks and these current matches will not matter anymore, since “what’s past is past”.

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GroundedWisdom

I've given suggestions. They were ignored because people want to take these smaller Allies down.

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GroundedWisdom

It doesn't matter because they earned them the way the system was then. You can't argue they should give them back based on how the system is now. That's not what they fought in. They don't owe anyone anything. They didn't come in the dead of night and snatch someone's loot. They Matched and fought their Wars.

Lormif

They were ignored because the "suggestions" ignored information as to why they were not implemented in the first place, and were terrible to start with. No one I have seen seems to just want to take smaller alliances down. That is a strawman argument.

GroundedWisdom

No. I pointed out what could have been done to resolve the issue of Rewards, I suggested what could have been done to make this transition less harmful to people, I even gave an example of how the system could be reset. They were ignored because people refuse to see any solution outside of what we have now.

Lormif

I gave you the reason they were ignored, I never claimed you didnt give any. In addition it is too late to change to another fix system, the season is already underway, and they have an adjustment coming at the end.

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danielmath

I like how the OP doesn’t see something wrong with their alliance being 12-0. Ina fair system, only the top alliance (kenob) should EVER go 12-0, because as you keep winning your matches should get tougher, where before they weren’t.

Mr_Platypus

All I know is I’m no longer looking at becoming that one really powerful guy in the lower prestige alliances that places a relatively powerful defence that will roadblock the opponents whilst I then use my powerful attack team to steamroll the opponents bosses, earning me better, platinum rewards for less effort than was required to maintain gold 2 in my current alliance.
That to me says the system is fixed.

GroundedWisdom

Fair for the people benefitting from these overpowered Matches. Not for the weaker ones that have no choice but to lose. Fair doesn't apply to one side and not the other. That's a contradiction by definition.

Lormif

The system is still fair for those losing, they will get to their proper ratings and get the rewards their skill level rewards them. The other system was not fair, this one is. Just because you are losing does not change if the system is fair or not, only if you are losing because you are losing to better teams because your rating matched you with them.

Manup456

If the war ratings are close then I feel it’s working fine but when war rating has a 400 difference like we ran into then it’s definitely not working because that gap is way too big.

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GroundedWisdom

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Lormif

There is no wrong here. the reason the old system was unfair is that it unjustly kept rewards from the better alliances and rewarded inferior alliances. This system does not do this. The issue here is not the fairness of this system this season, but that people are losing and they dont like to lose. The people with artificially high scores will drop and should get the rewards they actually deserve or better if it does not balance itself fast enough. The people screwed from the previous system should climb the ratings, and while they may not reach the tier the deserve their rewards should be better than they would have been under the old system.

So tell me, what is unfair about the season? You not liking to lose?

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Mr_Platypus

Ironically I imagine more alliances fell apart from them using all their unfairly (but legitimate as that’s how the old system unfairly worked) earned rank up rewards to bump their prestige and then go from a platinum to a gold 3 alliance than will fall apart from alliances losing 5-6 in one season.

GroundedWisdom

Did I say that? No. I said screwing one group of people over doesn't make it okay to screw another group of people over.

If I lose, I lose. I'm not bothered. We just lost. My guys are struggling with that Mixmaster Korg. They'll get better counters eventually. Once again, I'm not here to gain some kind of unfair advantage, and I'm not here for myself.
The people facing these Matches ARE getting screwed, and people can keep saying it'll all be okay in the morning, but that doesn't make it any less true.