Is havok top 5 mutant?

A lot of people think he is, but many underrate him. He has high DPS, heal block with despair, insane burst, incinerate immunity.....
I personally think he is top 5 mutant. I want to know your opinion.

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Kill_Grey

Without a doubt. His utility knows no bounds!

Kill_Grey

He probably has the fewest "weak matchups" in the mutant class, and he's probably the best defender among them.

ddom

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot

DalBot

Fringe Top 10
Definitively above him:
Omega
Domino
Colossus
Sunspot
Namor
Archangel

Arguably better
Iceman
Sabretooth
Emma

Possibly better soon
Magnetos (post-buff)

MCOCHazza

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Namor
Sunspot
Archangel
Havok
Emma frost
Wolverine weapon X
Iceman
That’s what I think

Gildenlow

I love havok, i have him as an r2 6 stars.

But he isn't top 5.

The thing with mutant class is that there are too many top characters.

GoddessIlias

Sunspot is not above havok. Also I would definitely take havok over AA and colossus in *most* situations (not a colossus fan).

... oh and I might be a little biased towards havok

Masterpuff

He isn’t up to par with:
Omega
Domino
AA
Sunspot
Namor if duped
And possibly some other few. Still top 10 though.

Timone147

In other classes definitely. In the stacked mutant class I see him as top 10 but not top 5.

lowlevelplayer

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot

domino over colossus? All she has is damage. Colossus has damage and utility

Gotszbot

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot
domino over colossus? All she has is damage. Colossus has damage and utility

I think that was just in the order he thought of it... He didn't say that was the order lol.
I've havok 5* and he puts some decent damage however takes waaaay too long to ramp up to be worthwhile in anything act6.2 or later (other than. Incinerate path of CMM). Namor is still op af

lowlevelplayer

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot
domino over colossus? All she has is damage. Colossus has damage and utility
I think that was just in the order he thought of it... He didn't say that was the order lol.
I've havok 5* and he puts some decent damage however takes waaaay too long to ramp up to be worthwhile in anything act6.2 or later (other than. Incinerate path of CMM). Namor is still op af

namor OP? no way. Requires specific and aggressive playstyle and too niche.
If you utilize heavies and sp1, havok has a relatively short ramp up compared to a lot of champs. S1, wait till 5-6 plasma on opponent, and start throwing heavies until S3

Thicco_Mode

I think he might be on the edge for me
mypersonal top three are omega, colossus, and aa, in that order. for fourth and fifth, I'd probably put havok and sunspot, but I really don't know the order of them. I don't think domino and namor are better than them, but I could see a case for namor.

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot
domino over colossus? All she has is damage. Colossus has damage and utility

I've havok 5* and he puts some decent damage however takes waaaay too long to ramp up to be worthwhile in anything act6.2 or later (other than. Incinerate path of CMM).

I think this is a fair point, but with his sig and one or two sp1s, he can do really great damage. also, he can just spam heavy for the feedback damage which is no joke, so I would consider his playstyle relatively open ended

lowlevelplayer

I think he might be on the edge for me
mypersonal top three are omega, colossus, and aa, in that order. for fourth and fifth, I'd probably put havok and sunspot, but I really don't know the order of them. I don't think domino and namor are better than them, but I could see a case for namor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDAXZ-iOqLo
exact same list as KT1 lol. I agree with your opinion

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Thicco_Mode

How can anyone place sunspot over havok? Im seriously asking

he has super great damage and his perfect block is super sustainable. he might not have the same range of fights as havok though

lowlevelplayer

How can anyone place sunspot over havok? Im seriously asking

they see big yellow numbers and say "ooh shiny"

Thicco_Mode

I think he might be on the edge for me
mypersonal top three are omega, colossus, and aa, in that order. for fourth and fifth, I'd probably put havok and sunspot, but I really don't know the order of them. I don't think domino and namor are better than them, but I could see a case for namor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDAXZ-iOqLo
exact same list as KT1 lol. I agree with your opinion

I think he put colossus>omega. I think omega is a bit better though. also, I loved that set of vids from him. I definitely don't agree with some of his points/ideas, but I respect his opinion on endgame content and his experience.

Cliffordcan

How can anyone place sunspot over havok? Im seriously asking

Yeah, I agree. It’s probably because I run Suicides, but I think Sunspot is overrated. I also think Domino is as well. Havok is easily better than both.

Ciciliato

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot
domino over colossus? All she has is damage. Colossus has damage and utility
I think that was just in the order he thought of it... He didn't say that was the order lol.
I've havok 5* and he puts some decent damage however takes waaaay too long to ramp up to be worthwhile in anything act6.2 or later (other than. Incinerate path of CMM). Namor is still op af

Even on 6.4 mine is on the quests. His playstyle is kinda slow but you sp1, heavy after build plasmas, sp3 and it's over

Masterpuff

Close but i think just misses out because mutant is stacked

Omega red
Domino
Colossus
Archangel
Sunspot
domino over colossus? All she has is damage. Colossus has damage and utility

I personally would take domino over colossus. That’s just my preference though.

manveerthereal

Colossus
Domino
Omega red
Archangel
Sunspot

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manveerthereal

I’m my opinion domino is the second best mutant

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SwarmOfRavens

Colossus
Omega red
Archangel
Havok
Sunspot

I've got a 6* domino that I'll r3 depending on what I pull from abyss. She's an insane character but the lack of utility makes it hard for me to rank her in my top 5.
Namor would suffer from the same problem but his Sig ability saves him, too bad its rarely ever needed

Kill_Grey

It depends if you run suicides or not.
Without suicides
Colossus
Domino
Archangel
Sunspot/_Havok I find them interchangeable
Namor

With. Suicides
Omega
Emma
Colossus
Iceman
Domino

So...you know havok rocks suicides right? Extra damage, plus the fact you're throwing mostly SP 3's. Did you forget that?

Lvernon15

It’s an extremely tough call. For someone running suicides I’d say yes, omega colossus aa namor and havok, without them I’d replace havok with sunspot, but he’s a beast either way

Rockypantherx

In my opinion (remember that before you kill me), Havok is vastly overrated. Large parts of his utility are fairly niche.

His damage, while the big number looks good, has a slow buildup so most other good champions have already beaten the fight.

If I were to rank the mutants it would look something like this:

Omega Red
Archangel
Colossus
Emma Frost
Domino
Namor
Sunspot
Havok/Storm X

As you can see, I do not value Havok. I have at R4 as a 5*, was really excited to pull him, but he has collected dust for about 18 months now. I used him for two paths in Act 6 and was it. And if you’re wondering why I put him and Storm X at the same level, you, or the videos you’ve seen of her, are playing her wrong.

Also, anyone putting Sunspot or Havok above Emma is nuts.