Thorns node counters

BLEEDlNG_DGE

Besides a Sig200 Namor and Quake, who else is a good counter for the Thorns node? Any help will be appreciated.

Deacon

Omega Red

SuperiorSymbiote

Havok imiw

Whaaaat

Magneto, BWCV, Doom, Supreme

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RocketWaffle

Bot entirely certain, but I'm pretty sure thorns is when you crit, so just use somebody with a crappy crit rate (I recommend Vulture)

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Ciciliato

Grumpy said:

Omega takes damage from thorns tried n tested yesterday map6 vs doc oc

With his tentacle hits, he takes 100% less damage from this type of damage

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BLEEDlNG_DGE

Thanks everyone. That helps a lot.

Imran

Omega red, doom, all ss taking damage from map 6 middle throne node. I assign in this lane. I know it. Don't know, why people give suggestions without knowing it properly!!

Nameless_IW

Omega Red medium and heavy attacks are non-contact hits, so no thorn damage. Same as Havok's medium attack.
if you are getting thorn damages then there's a bug in map6.

Terra

RocketWaffle said:

Bot entirely certain, but I'm pretty sure thorns is when you crit, so just use somebody with a crappy crit rate (I recommend Vulture)

You are thinking of spiked armor.
Thorns is direct damage back if you use contact attacks, while spiked armor gives opponent a physical resist buff and damage back when you crit.

Panchulon21

Thorns is completely different. Everyone is set to takes damage from thorns. So doom, SS Claire will
Not work.

For thorns you need namor. If a villain you can use blade with ghost rider. Add stark to it and it will counter it better.

Widow at max sig will control it 70% or the time. 85% if it’s science.

Crossbones with 3+ furies will control it, 5 will negate it.

I think yondu arrow doesn’t take damage but his medium and lights that aren’t the arrow will.

Colonaut123

Yondu, IMIW, Namor, Omega, Blade or other AAR champion.

BLEEDlNG_DGE

Yup, just tried Sym Supreme... doesn't work.

J_Head518

Falcon

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Agent_X_zzz

For thorns, 3 categories of champs work.

Non Contact attacks (Havok, professor X)

Strong AAR (Quake, Falcon)

Ignores Passive Damage back (Omegas tentecles, Gambits mediums, Namor while attacking)

Spinnaker

Funnily enough, I use Mojo whenever I see thorns. His heavy is a non contact attack and so it gets around the node (a lot of his damage doesn't come from basic hits anyways)

herm

if OR's mediums are non-contact, then why are they so easy to parry?

Daddrieda

Gambit i think is now immune to thorn?

Wasiq_75

Prof X (apart from first medium)
Falcon (when locked on)
Ebony Maw (apart from first light attack)
Medium attack of Havok, Omega, Gambit, Nova etc
Hyperion with sp1 spam
Namor, if he is at sig 200

Edeuink

herm said:

if OR's mediums are non-contact, then why are they so easy to parry?

OR makes contact on his mediums. However, his mediums reduce the ability accuracy of passive damage back effects by 100%, allowing him to bypass thorns.

LibertyPrimeV1

Agent_X_zzz said:

For thorns, 3 categories of champs work.

Non Contact attacks (Havok, professor X)

Strong AAR (Quake, Falcon)

Ignores Passive Damage back (Omegas tentecles, Gambits mediums, Namor while attacking)

Gambit's Mediums, Specials, and Heavy Ignore the Damage*

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Maratox

herm said:

if OR's mediums are non-contact, then why are they so easy to parry?

They are contact hits, but it’s one of his abilities that tentacle hits negate 100% of instant damage that would be dealt to OR. So all mediums, heavies, and special attacks counter thorns.