Scientific Exploit question

I've been using Void in Cavalier 1.2 which has Scientific Exploit and Diss Track. I noticed when Void's Intimidating Presence debuffs fall off for Fear of the Void that he doesn't gain the passive furies from Scientific Exploit. Can anyone clarify whether he should gain passive furies here?

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ItsDamien

I think it's because the debuffs are converted to FotV and not actually falling off.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

The debuffs are converted, not necessarily expire.
The node requires a debuff to be expired (finish it's duration) in order to give you the fury

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Hammerbro_64

Well a point of confusion is when NF converts 8 bleeds into the passive, it gives you 8 furies

ItsDamien

Well a point of confusion is when NF converts 8 bleeds into the passive, it gives you 8 furies

I thought that it was only Science champs that got the fury from debuffs falling off. I can't rememeber the node right row, but if it is... NF shouldn't get them

Lormif

Scientific exploit states that it gives you the furies when they EXPIRE, voids debuffs do not expire. Punishment glutton, the skill version states it happens when they are PUREIFIED, which is why NF converts them into the furies

Hammerbro_64

Well a point of confusion is when NF converts 8 bleeds into the passive, it gives you 8 furies
I thought that it was only Science champs that got the fury from debuffs falling off. I can't rememeber the node right row, but if it is... NF shouldn't get them

I thought I raised you better than that. On the skill quest where it says when bleed debuffs expire it grants a passive fury

ItsDamien

Well a point of confusion is when NF converts 8 bleeds into the passive, it gives you 8 furies
I thought that it was only Science champs that got the fury from debuffs falling off. I can't rememeber the node right row, but if it is... NF shouldn't get them
I thought I raised you better than that. On the skill quest where it says when bleed debuffs expire it grants a passive fury

Skill = Purify or Expires. Converting from Bleed to the Passive I guess purifies (his ability just says "removes" so interpretation) the 8 bleeds to the Internal Bleed.

Science = debuff expires. Nothing with converting or purifying.