Abyss Gulk has no metal tag

Zahid

Pretty much the title.

I was running path 5 in the abyss and got to the third fight which is Gulk who I was planning to use Magneto for, but I noticed straight away he wasn't being magnetised. I checked his tags and there was no metal tag, even though he should have it now with the latest major update this month. It screwed up my whole game plan so I backed out but I forgot to take a screenshot.

There's probably other areas of the game where the metal tag hasn't been added yet so could you guys please look into that, I'm going to hold off on path 5 for now until it's fixed.

No_Ægon_club

Things like AOL LOL ROL don’t receive updates besides animations

Zahid

Ah I see, that's a bit annoying.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I have to go with my plan B of Void for that Gulk haha

CoatHang3r

He’s mistaken about them not receiving updates to tags, they don’t get updated abilities. Magik in LoL is an example of this, she didn’t have the dimensional tag until she was updated after it was pointed out she was not triggering Blade’s Danger Sense.

Zahid

If that's the case then hopefully a mod sees this and can raise it to be fixed in a future update. I was so excited to use Magneto for that Gulk fight so hopefully I still can.

On an unrelated note, @CoatHang3r it's awesome that you replied to this. I watched your Abyss Killmonger takedown with Vision Aarkus not too long ago and you've got me very tempted to rank 5 my Vision for that fight!

Lvernon15

He should have it, animations and tags are updated, abilities aren’t, I think they’re coded differently so they have to add it separately, and they must’ve forgot

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Kabam Zibiit

I'll check in with the rest of the team about this and get back to you all with what I find out once I have some more info.

Kabam Zibiit

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

Delta_14

Kabam Zibiit said:

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

@Kabam Zibiit could you please elaborate on why you’ve made this decision in relation to Ghulk, when there is contrary precedent (such as the Magik example discussed above)?

Respectfully, it appears somewhat arbitrary to decide that a champion interaction should only work in some areas of the game. This is particularly important because the only place where Ghulk will not be listed as #metal will be in the pre-fight screen of AOL itself- players will (in my opinion, justifiably) feel mislead reaching this fight just to find that a champion is classified differently to every other instance.

Ultimately, whilst I agree it is undeniably important to maintain the nature of this type of challenge, omitting a champion tag seems to lead to more confusion rather than less. Given that the metal tag has only been relevant since the Magneto buff, it is not like people who have already explored AOL are going to be influenced by it.

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RU11011

Kabam Zibiit said:

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

Now I'm not expert on Abyss here, but didn't you guys change Cable's sp1 in there? Shouldn't it be the exact same as it previously was? Technically it was a bug, but it was incredibly long-standing and got fixed, while people who fought him beforehand were able to fully dex it. I don't get the reasoning here, but okay. Again, not an expert on Abyss.

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CoatHang3r

Haji_Saab said:

Kabam Zibiit said:

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

Why did you change Cable’s sp1? Can you please ask the devs what happened there?

That’s simple; and shown in the second post. Animations are ubiquitous/common/shared assets for champions, they do not create new animation sets for champions when they create new ability sheets for champions like those found in the abyss.

Speeds80

Kabam you’re acting like the change is to gulk, it’s not...he should be metal tagged and he’s not, that’s a mistake, you buffed magneto and so now we realised it, but the magneto buff is something we all welcomed, nobody can say it’s not fair that gulk is easier now because you buffed magneto, correct the ommission, it’s what you normally do, and it makes a LOT more sense

KevanproG

Magneto buff is still new it hasn't even been a month so I think you should change the tag kabam

WhatElse

Does this approach make sense? It’s normal to have new champions available to beat old content in an alternative way (or even in a just better way). That was the case of Aegon. Not putting #metal tag on Gulk is not compatible with the rest of the content and loses the value of Magneto being a possible Abyss counter on those paths.

WhatElse

By the way: Abyss Taskmaster faces the same #metal tag issue.

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manveerthereal

Kabam Zibiit said:

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

so in lol colosuss is not buffed?

Patchie93

manveerthereal said:

Kabam Zibiit said:

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

so in lol colosuss is not buffed?

No his animations have changed but are still his old abilities

Zahid

Kabam Zibiit said:

Hey there everyone, I wanted to give you all an update on this. As it stands, we won't be adding the Metal tag to new Champions in the Abyss. For content like the Labyrinth or Abyss, content that is supposed to be the toughest content in the game when it is released, we try to not change it more than needed (outside of fixing bugs that pop up) in order to make sure that anyone who completes it experiences as close to the same content as possible.

That's very disappointing but I can't say I expected much. It's just two fights (he's on both my last 2 abyss paths) I thought I'd be able to have an interesting time using Magneto lol. Just wish there was some consistency in how you handle these changes. Also as @pseudosane mentioned, there is no way someone who doesn't check the forums to know this, and this could potentially cost someone loads of extra units trying to take on path 4 or 5 taking in what they naturally will assume to be a good counter.