War Matchmaking is busted

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  • ABOMBABOMB Member Posts: 564 ★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
  • TheTalentsTheTalents Member Posts: 2,254 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    Excellent response. That is all lol.
  • ABOMBABOMB Member Posts: 564 ★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
    Again when you show me an alliance using only those for wars in development.
  • ABOMBABOMB Member Posts: 564 ★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
    Again when you show me an alliance using only those for wars in development.
    Lol, u got nuthin. Won't even take my offer to prove your point..why..because you know I'm right.
  • RoKoPlayzzzRoKoPlayzzz Member Posts: 242
    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
    Again when you show me an alliance using only those for wars in development.
    Lol, u got nuthin. Won't even take my offer to prove your point..why..because you know I'm right.
    No he knows ur an idiot. Your saying things you cant prove. @Lormif has literally nothing to prove to you.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
    Again when you show me an alliance using only those for wars in development.
    Lol, u got nuthin. Won't even take my offer to prove your point..why..because you know I'm right.
    if you had a point you would be able to show me those alliances.
  • ABOMBABOMB Member Posts: 564 ★★★
    The challenge stands but nuthin but crickets from all the "skills all that matters tuff guys"🤣🤣
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    If you said 4*s it would make sense since you’re all saying that 5*s give a massive advantage over 4*s and that’s why wars are unfair
  • ABOMBABOMB Member Posts: 564 ★★★
    I never said that..
    I'm just trying to prove a point that to small allys that are still developing better skill, prestige matters in war. They should not be facing allys with 3K more prestige.
    But to many who think skill is the end all..its clearly not because nobody wants to put their money where their mouth is cuz they know they would be proven wrong.
  • ABOMBABOMB Member Posts: 564 ★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
    Again when you show me an alliance using only those for wars in development.
    Lol, u got nuthin. Won't even take my offer to prove your point..why..because you know I'm right.
    if you had a point you would be able to show me those alliances.
    ??? Challenge stands unanswered bro..
    Easy to flap gums and be a forum tuff guy but not so easy when asked to put the proof to paper ain't it.Lmao
    🤣🤣
  • PizzabeatPizzabeat Member Posts: 239 ★★
    ABOMB said:


    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!

    How many subscribers do you have? I won’t humiliate myself in front of anything less than 1k
  • RoseyRosey Member Posts: 14
    Really, WOW not a single person here would take the challenge to back up their own talk...
    Lmfao, way to go ABOMB!!!
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  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    Rosey said:

    Really, WOW not a single person here would take the challenge to back up their own talk...
    Lmfao, way to go ABOMB!!!

    Because his challenge doesn’t prove anything. You’re all crying about 2-3k prestige differences, 1* to 5* is much more than that. So like I said, if he want the challenge to imitate all these matchups you’ve spent the past week crying over, make it 4* vs 5*
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    Also all of those here that keep posting how skill is the be all end all and that prestige doesn't matter..
    I challenge you to an incursion run with me in a mid sector and all you can use are 1* champs..and ill use 5* champs so we can compare.
    Because as many of you are clearly not objectively looking at this issue from any other perspective but "skill"..put your money where your mouth is!!

    I will film it and put on my channel for all to see!
    Should be fun!

    After were finished you can try and back pedal your skill argument..

    I challenge you to show me a developing alliance using all 1* champions for all their wars. When you can do that I will take you up on your challenge. You can do an reductio ad absurdum all you want, it wont get you far.
    But its about skill I thought, so prove it..
    nothing to prove, no one is talking about using 1*s but you.
    I'm giving you a chance to prove your skill argument over my prestige argument.
    Don't be scared lets rock, use 2 or 3* champs then..
    Bet I still get an excuse outra you..you've been called bro
    Again when you show me an alliance using only those for wars in development.
    Lol, u got nuthin. Won't even take my offer to prove your point..why..because you know I'm right.
    if you had a point you would be able to show me those alliances.
    ??? Challenge stands unanswered bro..
    Easy to flap gums and be a forum tuff guy but not so easy when asked to put the proof to paper ain't it.Lmao
    🤣🤣
    like I said, when you stop flapping your gums, and can show me an alliance doing that then I will, but you cannot backup your challenge.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    who are you determine the skill level of those "developing" alliances? That is what war rating is for, to determine their skill level....
    No. War Rating doesn't determine their skill. It's not a preset magical number that automatically appropriates everyone. When you switch criteria as abruptly as it did, it's not reflection of skill until much later when things have reorganized. Levels are all over the place. Less so since we switched, but there are still detrimental effects taking place, and that is exactly what we're discussing. Those effects matter. The people going through them matter. This idea that it's all better overnight just because the higher Alliances prefer this system is blind to the expense of others.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    who are you determine the skill level of those "developing" alliances? That is what war rating is for, to determine their skill level....
    No. War Rating doesn't determine their skill. It's not a preset magical number that automatically appropriates everyone. When you switch criteria as abruptly as it did, it's not reflection of skill until much later when things have reorganized. Levels are all over the place. Less so since we switched, but there are still detrimental effects taking place, and that is exactly what we're discussing. Those effects matter. The people going through them matter. This idea that it's all better overnight just because the higher Alliances prefer this system is blind to the expense of others.
    things are reorganized. AGain ayou have not showed that they have not. You have not showed the defenders these people are seeing, or the attackers they are seeing, and there were not many of these matchups that poped up. You cannot see the forest for the trees because you are so blinding by your hatred of the systrem.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    who are you determine the skill level of those "developing" alliances? That is what war rating is for, to determine their skill level....
    No. War Rating doesn't determine their skill. It's not a preset magical number that automatically appropriates everyone. When you switch criteria as abruptly as it did, it's not reflection of skill until much later when things have reorganized. Levels are all over the place. Less so since we switched, but there are still detrimental effects taking place, and that is exactly what we're discussing. Those effects matter. The people going through them matter. This idea that it's all better overnight just because the higher Alliances prefer this system is blind to the expense of others.
    things are reorganized. AGain ayou have not showed that they have not. You have not showed the defenders these people are seeing, or the attackers they are seeing, and there were not many of these matchups that poped up. You cannot see the forest for the trees because you are so blinding by your hatred of the systrem.
    Clearly they're not because people are still posting about these Matches. How many times are you going to try to spin the issue? It exists whether you believe it or not.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,978 Guardian
    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    Soooo.... you dont have the skill? Then why cry for the rewards? Higher alliances used skill to get there, you want a hall pass?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    Soooo.... you dont have the skill? Then why cry for the rewards? Higher alliances used skill to get there, you want a hall pass?
    So because they used skill, they should be allowed to take advantage of Alliances much weaker and less developed? Doesn't sound like skill to me at all.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    who are you determine the skill level of those "developing" alliances? That is what war rating is for, to determine their skill level....
    No. War Rating doesn't determine their skill. It's not a preset magical number that automatically appropriates everyone. When you switch criteria as abruptly as it did, it's not reflection of skill until much later when things have reorganized. Levels are all over the place. Less so since we switched, but there are still detrimental effects taking place, and that is exactly what we're discussing. Those effects matter. The people going through them matter. This idea that it's all better overnight just because the higher Alliances prefer this system is blind to the expense of others.
    things are reorganized. AGain ayou have not showed that they have not. You have not showed the defenders these people are seeing, or the attackers they are seeing, and there were not many of these matchups that poped up. You cannot see the forest for the trees because you are so blinding by your hatred of the systrem.
    Clearly they're not because people are still posting about these Matches. How many times are you going to try to spin the issue? It exists whether you believe it or not.
    people have always been posteing about these matchups, a lopsided alliance rating does not indicate who will win, no matter if you believe it does or not. Because again there is a ceiling to what defenders can be used.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,978 Guardian

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    Soooo.... you dont have the skill? Then why cry for the rewards? Higher alliances used skill to get there, you want a hall pass?
    So because they used skill, they should be allowed to take advantage of Alliances much weaker and less developed? Doesn't sound like skill to me at all.
    How long does it last? A few bad wars here and there, and everything is okay when the dust settles.
    Yes i have faced "both" sides of the coin, and my mini has faced bad matches. We won some, we lose some.
    EVERYONE faces bad matches, no matter how high you go. Unless you are the top 40 big big account alliances, you are gonna face terrible matches at some point. Then it is your decision how you want to proceed.
    Even then, "bad matches" may be offset by the fact that the opposite ally flat out doesnt take war seriously. My main ally is 10.6k prestige, we faced a 11.4k prestige ally, and won. They didnt push war like us, and we won rather easily.
    There are a lot of factors at play here. Those who constantly complain here just havent faced "bad" matches long enough. One lost war does nothing unless you are seriously getting into the competition, and when that does happen, you have to be ready to tough it out.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    Soooo.... you dont have the skill? Then why cry for the rewards? Higher alliances used skill to get there, you want a hall pass?
    So because they used skill, they should be allowed to take advantage of Alliances much weaker and less developed? Doesn't sound like skill to me at all.
    How long does it last? A few bad wars here and there, and everything is okay when the dust settles.
    Yes i have faced "both" sides of the coin, and my mini has faced bad matches. We won some, we lose some.
    EVERYONE faces bad matches, no matter how high you go. Unless you are the top 40 big big account alliances, you are gonna face terrible matches at some point. Then it is your decision how you want to proceed.
    Even then, "bad matches" may be offset by the fact that the opposite ally flat out doesnt take war seriously. My main ally is 10.6k prestige, we faced a 11.4k prestige ally, and won. They didnt push war like us, and we won rather easily.
    There are a lot of factors at play here. Those who constantly complain here just havent faced "bad" matches long enough. One lost war does nothing unless you are seriously getting into the competition, and when that does happen, you have to be ready to tough it out.
    We're not talking about a few bad Matches, and it's not just a natural byproduct of going as high as you can and plateauing. Some of these Matches are pretty extreme, and it's a result of switching without something regulating it. That's the point. There's nothing in place to keep the competition in the spirit of fairness.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    who are you determine the skill level of those "developing" alliances? That is what war rating is for, to determine their skill level....
    No. War Rating doesn't determine their skill. It's not a preset magical number that automatically appropriates everyone. When you switch criteria as abruptly as it did, it's not reflection of skill until much later when things have reorganized. Levels are all over the place. Less so since we switched, but there are still detrimental effects taking place, and that is exactly what we're discussing. Those effects matter. The people going through them matter. This idea that it's all better overnight just because the higher Alliances prefer this system is blind to the expense of others.
    things are reorganized. AGain ayou have not showed that they have not. You have not showed the defenders these people are seeing, or the attackers they are seeing, and there were not many of these matchups that poped up. You cannot see the forest for the trees because you are so blinding by your hatred of the systrem.
    Clearly they're not because people are still posting about these Matches. How many times are you going to try to spin the issue? It exists whether you believe it or not.
    people have always been posteing about these matchups, a lopsided alliance rating does not indicate who will win, no matter if you believe it does or not. Because again there is a ceiling to what defenders can be used.
    Still pretending the strength of the Alliances doesn't matter? Mkay.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    Soooo.... you dont have the skill? Then why cry for the rewards? Higher alliances used skill to get there, you want a hall pass?
    So because they used skill, they should be allowed to take advantage of Alliances much weaker and less developed? Doesn't sound like skill to me at all.
    How long does it last? A few bad wars here and there, and everything is okay when the dust settles.
    Yes i have faced "both" sides of the coin, and my mini has faced bad matches. We won some, we lose some.
    EVERYONE faces bad matches, no matter how high you go. Unless you are the top 40 big big account alliances, you are gonna face terrible matches at some point. Then it is your decision how you want to proceed.
    Even then, "bad matches" may be offset by the fact that the opposite ally flat out doesnt take war seriously. My main ally is 10.6k prestige, we faced a 11.4k prestige ally, and won. They didnt push war like us, and we won rather easily.
    There are a lot of factors at play here. Those who constantly complain here just havent faced "bad" matches long enough. One lost war does nothing unless you are seriously getting into the competition, and when that does happen, you have to be ready to tough it out.
    We're not talking about a few bad Matches, and it's not just a natural byproduct of going as high as you can and plateauing. Some of these Matches are pretty extreme, and it's a result of switching without something regulating it. That's the point. There's nothing in place to keep the competition in the spirit of fairness.
    1) you have not showed any extreme matchups, only extreme alliance ratings,
    2) this season there has been like 5 posts for it, and one was about a team who lost despite having higher rating.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    ABOMB said:

    ABOMB said:

    ^This guy lol..just keep taking advantage of the smaller allys and getting your easy wins.
    Makes ya feel tuff I guess 🤣

    My mini mini account is facing such "high level folks" in silver1, One bg war. We have 6k prestige. Maybe 1, max 2 r5 per person. We faced an ally with only maxed 5* and r2 6* in war. We won. Nothing "easy". We were just better. 15million ally vs 35 million. We won. In the end, it is who is better, nothing more.
    "My mini" there you go man..you obviously have been playing a while and have good skill. Were talking about the lower allies that are still developing skill getting matched with such lopsided opponents..
    Soooo.... you dont have the skill? Then why cry for the rewards? Higher alliances used skill to get there, you want a hall pass?
    So because they used skill, they should be allowed to take advantage of Alliances much weaker and less developed? Doesn't sound like skill to me at all.
    How long does it last? A few bad wars here and there, and everything is okay when the dust settles.
    Yes i have faced "both" sides of the coin, and my mini has faced bad matches. We won some, we lose some.
    EVERYONE faces bad matches, no matter how high you go. Unless you are the top 40 big big account alliances, you are gonna face terrible matches at some point. Then it is your decision how you want to proceed.
    Even then, "bad matches" may be offset by the fact that the opposite ally flat out doesnt take war seriously. My main ally is 10.6k prestige, we faced a 11.4k prestige ally, and won. They didnt push war like us, and we won rather easily.
    There are a lot of factors at play here. Those who constantly complain here just havent faced "bad" matches long enough. One lost war does nothing unless you are seriously getting into the competition, and when that does happen, you have to be ready to tough it out.
    We're not talking about a few bad Matches, and it's not just a natural byproduct of going as high as you can and plateauing. Some of these Matches are pretty extreme, and it's a result of switching without something regulating it. That's the point. There's nothing in place to keep the competition in the spirit of fairness.
    1) you have not showed any extreme matchups, only extreme alliance ratings,
    2) this season there has been like 5 posts for it, and one was about a team who lost despite having higher rating.
    Extreme Alliance Ratings ARE extreme matchups. No idea why you keep asserting it doesn't matter, but that's just not the same game that everyone else is playing.
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