IS HUMAN TORCH A DISSAPOINTMENT?

HT is much better than what you think. Many champs have energy based attacks(IMIW, Darkhawk,Magneto, Mister Sinister) and he works really well for them. And don't forgot his heal reversal, miss counter, no need of synergies and the fact that is base damage is decent enough and he is a great balanced champion.

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Kill_Grey

HT isn't bad with suicides. It's like an archangel-type scenario where the champ doesn't need to throw specials.

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DarkSoulDLX

Human torch is rather a specialized champion

Mauled

So don’t run suicides or wait 16 seconds. You can still get up to temperature with a bleed. Void isn’t exactly suicide friendly either.

Suicides are bad for the vast majority of champions, there’s a reason they’re called suicides.

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Panchulon21

Human torch is very useful in a lot of scenarios. Of course he isn’t void or beardo, but he’s a beast in his own. Not every champ can handle every single fight. If there was then we would have a quake and ghost situation with every champ. There needs to be limitations for 90% of the champs of there is no point of playing the game.

Kill_Grey

So don’t run suicides or wait 16 seconds. You can still get up to temperature with a bleed. Void isn’t exactly suicide friendly either.

Suicides are bad for the vast majority of champions, there’s a reason they’re called suicides.
but void has the synergy with killmonger that heals him every time he places a debuff

Doesn't compensate effectively to cover recoil damage.

The_Sentry06

So don’t run suicides or wait 16 seconds. You can still get up to temperature with a bleed. Void isn’t exactly suicide friendly either.

Suicides are bad for the vast majority of champions, there’s a reason they’re called suicides.
but void has the synergy with killmonger that heals him every time he places a debuff

Its only a 1% heal and recoil takes 5% of your health. Not too mention the bleed and poison from suicides ticking away.

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Kill_Grey

btw once void has fear of the void active, he can keep placing debuffs without using his L1 to heal faster

No.

The_Sentry06

btw once void has fear of the void active, he can keep placing debuffs without using his L1 to heal faster

It will take you forever to do a fight like that.

Mauled

btw once void has fear of the void active, he can keep placing debuffs without using his L1 to heal faster

He can do that anyway, you can play void like Quake theoretically. 8/10 of my Mordo kills in 6.2.5 were with Void and each time I did less than 20 hits. Just gotta slow play from the start.