Thoughts on updates to Cav Difficulty?

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  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    walkerdog said:

    I hate that they're ignoring the rewards.

    Also I wish the global effect on each map would affect the boss. CGR would be a bad one bc hes bleed/incin immune, so theyd have to watch for that, but it would be more fun to really ranch the boss with the global too.

    It might sound like a way to go, but it would be severely restrictive. Imagine if the first edition cavalier difficulty had that magik boss on biohazard? You would have written off the best counter (archangel), and made it such that the only viable one was omega red. I don't have omega red, so that would mean I, and many other people wouldn't have gone last that magik.

    The "global effect" has class-based nodes, but they also have super restrictive ones like buffed up and diss track. I would prefer the class nodes to remain off of the bosses if putting them would require the other nuisance nodes to be there.
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  • Priest64Priest64 Member Posts: 56
    I wanna know why they always wanna nerf our champs in a difficulty that’s having some defenders with 10k Attack Points? And we gotta do something specific to even get damage! I’m not into 200 hit fights cause I lack the specific champs, and if I do have the perfect countermeasure. I didn’t rank it up to be effective for the Cavalier difficulty! I just became Cavalier like 7-9 months ago, and I’m trying to build up a 6* roster, but I’m getting trash pulls anyway like usual. But you guys want us to come with a specific counter, but you nerf us at the same time? Bad. I didn’t even try to play this months Cavalier EQ cause of these things. Y’all finally decided to put an easy path!🤦🏿‍♂️Too late cause I’m two months behind, and it is sad when you guys purposely put in roadblocks to a Summoner’s growth!! Please stop!!
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★
    Priest64 said:

    I wanna know why they always wanna nerf our champs in a difficulty that’s having some defenders with 10k Attack Points? And we gotta do something specific to even get damage! I’m not into 200 hit fights cause I lack the specific champs, and if I do have the perfect countermeasure. I didn’t rank it up to be effective for the Cavalier difficulty! I just became Cavalier like 7-9 months ago, and I’m trying to build up a 6* roster, but I’m getting trash pulls anyway like usual. But you guys want us to come with a specific counter, but you nerf us at the same time? Bad. I didn’t even try to play this months Cavalier EQ cause of these things. Y’all finally decided to put an easy path!🤦🏿‍♂️Too late cause I’m two months behind, and it is sad when you guys purposely put in roadblocks to a Summoner’s growth!! Please stop!!

    4* can also be used and since you are a cavalier player for quite a bit of time now, you should have atleast a decent 4* roster. Also, if you are complaining about ranking up champs, you have to realise that these nodes will likely stay for a while and also Kabam are trying their best to get people using their 4* again. So while I do think certain nodes like disstrac are a bit too restricting, its not at all restricting to the extent of which you describe it to be. Especially for someone has been a cavalier level player for more than half a year.
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    We asked for for better rewards.

    They tweak the global nodes, which in paper make it look easier now.

    Maybe they wont increase the rewards now cause supposedly they tone down the difficulty.

    Interesting thoughts lol
  • _Reef_Reef Member Posts: 267

    I am happy they updated the easy path speaking from a newly cav player perspective

    I agree, i just wish they didnt use disstrack so much, its dang near a roadblock for me.
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  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    No one asked for it to be this easy. We did however ask for solid rewards and haven't gotten them. It's not like we're asking for a bunch of T5CC, just bump up the weaka*s amount of 5 and 6* shards + T2A. Between the SQ, EQ, and AQ, people are actually getting quite a bit of T5CC each month.
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★
    Etjama said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    No one asked for it to be this easy. We did however ask for solid rewards and haven't gotten them. It's not like we're asking for a bunch of T5CC, just bump up the weaka*s amount of 5 and 6* shards + T2A. Between the SQ, EQ, and AQ, people are actually getting quite a bit of T5CC each month.
    It appears you are ignoring all the posts about how cav difficultly is already an impossible money grab
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★

    Etjama said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    No one asked for it to be this easy. We did however ask for solid rewards and haven't gotten them. It's not like we're asking for a bunch of T5CC, just bump up the weaka*s amount of 5 and 6* shards + T2A. Between the SQ, EQ, and AQ, people are actually getting quite a bit of T5CC each month.
    It appears you are ignoring all the posts about how cav difficultly is already an impossible money grab
    There's only 1 dude in here that complained about difficulty.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★
    Etjama said:

    Etjama said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    No one asked for it to be this easy. We did however ask for solid rewards and haven't gotten them. It's not like we're asking for a bunch of T5CC, just bump up the weaka*s amount of 5 and 6* shards + T2A. Between the SQ, EQ, and AQ, people are actually getting quite a bit of T5CC each month.
    It appears you are ignoring all the posts about how cav difficultly is already an impossible money grab
    There's only 1 dude in here that complained about difficulty.
    There’s been tons of posts in tons of threads
  • RookiieRookiie Member Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★
    edited October 2020

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    A small bump in 6* shards would probably be a good change that while I don't think would make much of an actual difference, people seem to care more about the idea of this stuff than the actual impact (just look at the reaction to completion rewards being split between chapters). Some more t2a and sig stones would also be nice but adjusting the T5CC amounts isn't remotely necessary.

    Like I said earlier, this isn't meant to automatically springboard people into having a bunch of R3s, especially when those people are avoiding participating in the other areas of the game that t5cc is available is decent amounts like AQ. Like dreamin said, 80% for cav EQ is beyond silly honestly.
  • RookiieRookiie Member Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    80% of a t5c for cav difficulty is absurd
    Lol random classes dude not one class. 80% across 6 classes so that's about 13% per class per month.
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★
    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    80% of a t5c for cav difficulty is absurd
    Lol random classes dude not one class. 80% across 6 classes so that's about 13% per class per month.
    Doesn’t matter if it’s random or not, 80% is 80%
  • RookiieRookiie Member Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★
    edited October 2020

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    80% of a t5c for cav difficulty is absurd
    Lol random classes dude not one class. 80% across 6 classes so that's about 13% per class per month.
    Doesn’t matter if it’s random or not, 80% is 80%
    Kinda does though, it would slow your progression to R3ing 6-stars. Instead of ranking up* a 6-star every month, you'd get all the fully formed catalysts in 7-8 months.
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★
    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    80% of a t5c for cav difficulty is absurd
    Lol random classes dude not one class. 80% across 6 classes so that's about 13% per class per month.
    Doesn’t matter if it’s random or not, 80% is 80%
    Kinda does though, it would slow your progression to R3ing 6-stars. Instead of ranking up* a 6-star every month, you'd get all the fully formed catalysts in 7-8 months.
    Nope, it doesn’t matter how they’re broken up. If you did 80% from cav, plus you get 20% from side quest and 40% from aq, that’s 1.4 a month. That means 7* and that’s a hard pass for me
  • RookiieRookiie Member Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    Like I said earlier, this isn't meant to automatically springboard people into having a bunch of R3s, especially when those people are avoiding participating in the other areas of the game that t5cc is available is decent amounts like AQ. Like dreamin said, 80% for cav EQ is beyond silly honestly.
    Yeah I agree with what you have to say here. It makes sense for Kabam to fairly distribute the T5CC across other areas of the game. 40x2% across classes is probably a lot but, 10% of one class from a monthly even doesn't make too much sense to me either. Maybe 20x2% T5CC across classes.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    People keep looking at this stuff in small bubbles and just wanna segregate sections out that help their argument. So far each month between the EQ, side quest, and challenge there's been 30% of a t5cc available. There's another 40% per month available from AQ regardless of your prestige/ranking that you can get just from finishing the map every day. That's 70% of a cat available every month that takes zero spending, has no dependence on being in a "top" alliance, and doesn't even take AW into account.

    If people are choosing to ignore other areas of the game that resources are available, that doesn't mean they aren't available. That's just people being picky in what they're willing to do and expecting the game balance to change to suit them which is ridiculous.

  • RookiieRookiie Member Posts: 4,821 ★★★★★

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Rookiie said:

    Holy **** some of you guys are delusional when it comes to rewards for something this easy.

    Easy or not the rewards suck, period.
    And it's not like people are asking for a T5CC or two, just something more reasonable for roster progression.
    They're easily worth it for me and if I'm this much farther ahead of most of you as far as roster progression and still think they are, don't you think some of you have some unrealistic expectations?

    I'm not sure what others are asking for but 40x2% T5CC crystals averages at about 6k T5CC per class per month. Which, from Cav EQ alone, would get you a whole T5CC in 7-8 months per class. To me that* doesn't seem too unrealistic. But I respect where you are in the game and if you think that's a lot then it's something to consider.
    80% of a t5c for cav difficulty is absurd
    Lol random classes dude not one class. 80% across 6 classes so that's about 13% per class per month.
    Doesn’t matter if it’s random or not, 80% is 80%
    Kinda does though, it would slow your progression to R3ing 6-stars. Instead of ranking up* a 6-star every month, you'd get all the fully formed catalysts in 7-8 months.
    Nope, it doesn’t matter how they’re broken up. If you did 80% from cav, plus you get 20% from side quest and 40% from aq, that’s 1.4 a month. That means 7* and that’s a hard pass for me
    Fair point. I concede that I didn't consider other aspects like AQ and objectives, and the 7* argument is convincing enough for me lol.
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,254 ★★★★★

    There was an easy path?

    i think the ones without nodes are always considered "easy" paths.
  • BerjibsBerjibs Member Posts: 1,525 ★★★★
    Are we not already getting 30% from cav and the side quests per month currently?

    Always got the option of abyss too if you need r3. It’s not hard just a resources drain.
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