Immortal Hulk is actually GOOD

TP33

Now lots of people are saying he’s bad, lacks utility etc however I disagree greatly with this.

First let’s start of with the damage. With the correct rotation the damage that the 6* R2 Seatin was using in his video was INSANE. He was consistently landing 22k+ medium attacks with the correct ramp up. That’s comparable to Ægon at god combo. Near in mind Ægon needs 999 hits to get there. iHulk doesn’t.

Utility wise he is good. Poison immunity, recoil immunity (sort of) means he’s great with suicides. He also has the combat power rate reduction which, paired with parry + petrify can reach 80% resonably. He also has a petrify with his awakened ability and whilst it’s not as good as those of She-Hulk or Void it is still a good utility. Additionally his immortality (and 2nd highest health in game) allows him to tank LOTS of damage where that’s from L3s or DOT effects. Lest we forget his interactions with degeneration. Finally his main damage source isn’t from crits/specials which are commonly punished in endgame content but from secondary damage. (He’s XL as well, great for V2)

Now many criticise him saying immortality is AAR vulnerable but I believe that makes him a better character. Who would reasonably want to fight a champion that can regenerate as much as he can, it’s good that he has a **** in his armour brining him balance. He is a science champions, AAR is aa ability often tied to skill champions meaning that the weakness makes sense. (Also you can’t complain about an AAR vulnerability yet you praise Quake, a champion who is unplayable if AAR is present)

Finally some say the playstyle is risky and not worth the reward. I don’t agree AT ALL. The immortality is a safety net if ever there was one and even then you do not HAVE to play him on low health, simply land heavy attacks and chain into specials should be enough to nuke most fights. Also if played on low health intercepting exists, use it.

I think he’s a great champion with massive damage, good utility in lots of places and decent balanced abilities that make sense in the game. Disagree all you want but just wait, in time you’ll get pro iHulk players shredding through war and Act 7.

Lvernon15

Ihulk is going to be absolutely worthless in war, his regen and immortality is affected by aar and assassin exists, so that’s definitely not a place he’s useful

Rookiie

You wrote all this, assuming his rotation is easy to keep up and assuming you can chain heavies into his rotation. Unfortunately, that makes your entire post invalid until the rotation is tweaked.
Here's why:

1) You're not going to be able to keep his Rage stacks up with such a short window
2) His heavy has no reach

Also, either you didn't see BG's stream last night or you completely disregarded the fact that you can be left at 1% for about 30 seconds easy with Immortality on cooldown. Your answer? Intercepts exists. Well guess what? So do complex nodes, DoT, Unblockable specials that will make sure you get KO'd in that 30second window.

The_Sentry06

I agree that he is pretty good but they need to increase his rage timer. It might be a bit too stressful to keep up in proper endgame scenarios. He is sorta like Annihilus in that he is stressful to play however, iHulk does have a good payoff.

TripleB

If you use immortality you have to dance around for 50 seconds, doesn’t matter if you play perfect, your mediums and special attacks take you to 1% health waiting for immortality a second time...if you parry, block, take unnecessary damage or goodness gracious mess up, fight is over instantly.
Immortality is a safety net you MUST use if he doesn’t nuke them down before he nukes himself down, which often enough he will kill himself (hit immortality) before the opponent because the opponents health pool is often greater than your own. That is a risk I wouldn’t take in act 6 or upcoming 7, AQ, AW and I wouldn’t take him over any other champ.

Gardener

He might be good in a lot of hit and go scenarios like i would definatley use him against the collector

Moot4Life

the only thing i can see him being useful for is if you save him and kamikaze him on the boss of a quest.

FRITO_Man

TP33 said:

Now lots of people are saying he’s bad, lacks utility etc however I disagree greatly with this.

First let’s start of with the damage. With the correct rotation the damage that the 6* R2 Seatin was using in his video was INSANE. He was consistently landing 22k+ medium attacks with the correct ramp up. That’s comparable to Ægon at god combo. Near in mind Ægon needs 999 hits to get there. iHulk doesn’t.

Utility wise he is good. Poison immunity, recoil immunity (sort of) means he’s great with suicides. He also has the combat power rate reduction which, paired with parry + petrify can reach 80% resonably. He also has a petrify with his awakened ability and whilst it’s not as good as those of She-Hulk or Void it is still a good utility. Additionally his immortality (and 2nd highest health in game) allows him to tank LOTS of damage where that’s from L3s or DOT effects. Lest we forget his interactions with degeneration. Finally his main damage source isn’t from crits/specials which are commonly punished in endgame content but from secondary damage. (He’s XL as well, great for V2)

Now many criticise him saying immortality is AAR vulnerable but I believe that makes him a better character. Who would reasonably want to fight a champion that can regenerate as much as he can, it’s good that he has a **** in his armour brining him balance. He is a science champions, AAR is aa ability often tied to skill champions meaning that the weakness makes sense. (Also you can’t complain about an AAR vulnerability yet you praise Quake, a champion who is unplayable if AAR is present)

Finally some say the playstyle is risky and not worth the reward. I don’t agree AT ALL. The immortality is a safety net if ever there was one and even then you do not HAVE to play him on low health, simply land heavy attacks and chain into specials should be enough to nuke most fights. Also if played on low health intercepting exists, use it.

I think he’s a great champion with massive damage, good utility in lots of places and decent balanced abilities that make sense in the game. Disagree all you want but just wait, in time you’ll get pro iHulk players shredding through war and Act 7.

Just want to say something about the quake AAR vulnerability. First off, AAR for Quake usually can be bypassed, and no she isn't unplayable with AAR. You can just parry instead of dexing, and usually the AAR can be bypassed(unless it's the collector) with her concussion if you do the heavy trick at the beginning. I've almost gotten solos with quake with no synergies on the collector so shes defintely still viable for AAR if there isn't true strike

Bugmat78

He looks good for EQ up to uncollected level, but dem cavalier healthpools will be an issue unless you can do the hokey pokey (and you turn your health around ) .

Gardener

Moot4Life said:

the only thing i can see him being useful for is if you save him and kamikaze him on the boss of a quest.

Ya like the collector

Nojokejaym

Yes he’s good but very impractical to play, you basically can’t use him anywhere.

Pancake_Face

Moot4Life said:

the only thing i can see him being useful for is if you save him and kamikaze him on the boss of a quest.

that's what i was gonna say. he is a champ you would bring in for one fight.

Stagedear85

TP33 said:

Now lots of people are saying he’s bad, lacks utility etc however I disagree greatly with this.

First let’s start of with the damage. With the correct rotation the damage that the 6* R2 Seatin was using in his video was INSANE. He was consistently landing 22k+ medium attacks with the correct ramp up. That’s comparable to Ægon at god combo. Near in mind Ægon needs 999 hits to get there. iHulk doesn’t.

I was lucky to pull a 6 star from the early access and i totally disagree with your take, i don't think he's trash but i don't think he's that good I've been playing him for hours and i cant see any case where i would take him to rank 2 over Red Hulk or Hulk rag, in the science class i would take Quake, Human torch, Red Guard, Red Hulk, Hulk Rag, Cap IW, and Void over him any day of the week ill put him on par with sentry, don't think he's trash i just don't think he's special i would say he's average at best.

altavista

Good write up. He definitely doesn't seem to be as bad as certain people seem to be responding as.

Having said that, I am not a fan of Kabam's 'timer based' ramp up champions in general. This is because it makes the champions stressful to play (not as fun unless you enjoy that), and rarely does the content you're facing make it easy to do.

Silver Surfer, (likely) Immortal Hulk, Cosmic Ghost Rider are all great once ramped up, but again, the AI/node is usually unfavorable, and it is too much work. CGR is great for some people, but I'd take a Corvus or Hyperion any day, since I can control my rotation.

Sparky requires ramp up, but its not timer based and you are totally in control of what is happening. I think more champions should follow this model as opposed to Kabam's infatuation with timers.

Tatteshwar

altavista said:

Good write up. He definitely doesn't seem to be as bad as certain people seem to be responding as.

Having said that, I am not a fan of Kabam's 'timer based' ramp up champions in general. This is because it makes the champions stressful to play (not as fun unless you enjoy that), and rarely does the content you're facing make it easy to do.

Silver Surfer, (likely) Immortal Hulk, Cosmic Ghost Rider are all great once ramped up, but again, the AI/node is usually unfavorable, and it is too much work. CGR is great for some people, but I'd take a Corvus or Hyperion any day, since I can control my rotation.

Sparky requires ramp up, but its not timer based and you are totally in control of what is happening. I think more champions should follow this model as opposed to Kabam's infatuation with timers.

CGR is wayyyyyy better than Hyperion and this argument was debunked earlier this month, CGR's rotation is extremely versatile and is completely controllable

altavista

Tatteshwar said:

altavista said:

Good write up. He definitely doesn't seem to be as bad as certain people seem to be responding as.

Having said that, I am not a fan of Kabam's 'timer based' ramp up champions in general. This is because it makes the champions stressful to play (not as fun unless you enjoy that), and rarely does the content you're facing make it easy to do.

Silver Surfer, (likely) Immortal Hulk, Cosmic Ghost Rider are all great once ramped up, but again, the AI/node is usually unfavorable, and it is too much work. CGR is great for some people, but I'd take a Corvus or Hyperion any day, since I can control my rotation.

Sparky requires ramp up, but its not timer based and you are totally in control of what is happening. I think more champions should follow this model as opposed to Kabam's infatuation with timers.

CGR is wayyyyyy better than Hyperion and this argument was debunked earlier this month, CGR's rotation is extremely versatile and is completely controllable

With all the hype around champions, the truth is always in the middle between Impractical vs easy to dominate content. I agree that the CGR backlash swung the pendulum too far towards the impractical side of things.

But again, this is all personal preference. I prefer being able to focus on the fight itself than having to focus on icons below the health bar. Sure, with CG and Hyp you are paying attention to the charges or power gain/furies, respectively, but it doesn't require as much focus.