Recoil

The_Blue_Jaguar

Hey everyone. I’ve been thinking about suicides a lot, and obviously the biggest factor that plays into the decision to run them or not is recoil. I think it makes sense that there’s a sacrifice to get the damage boost, but I’m curious if you think recoil should be revised. I don’t think removing it completely would be smart, because then everyone would run suicides and there’d be no real reason not to unless you don’t run willpower. But do you think it would be reasonable to drop the percentage of damage taken per special from 5 to 3 percent? Or lower the damage by .75 percent for every level in it? What would you suggest, or would you even change anything? I’d love to hear your thoughts! In addition, if you have any tips or tricks to get around recoil that you’d like to share, go for it!

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Gardener

The_Blue_Jaguar said:

Hey everyone. I’ve been thinking about suicides a lot, and obviously the biggest factor that plays into the decision to run them or not is recoil. I think it makes sense that there’s a sacrifice to get the damage boost, but I’m curious if you think recoil should be revised. I don’t think removing it completely would be smart, because then everyone would run suicides and there’d be no real reason not to unless you don’t run willpower. But do you think it would be reasonable to drop the percentage of damage taken per special from 5 to 3 percent? Or lower the damage by .75 percent for every level in it? What would you suggest, or would you even change anything? I’d love to hear your thoughts! In addition, if you have any tips or tricks to get around recoil that you’d like to share, go for it!

For the tips and tricks part i think if you phase in time with ghost your able to avoid recoil

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Kill_Grey

Black_Swan said:

Gardener said:

The_Blue_Jaguar said:

Hey everyone. I’ve been thinking about suicides a lot, and obviously the biggest factor that plays into the decision to run them or not is recoil. I think it makes sense that there’s a sacrifice to get the damage boost, but I’m curious if you think recoil should be revised. I don’t think removing it completely would be smart, because then everyone would run suicides and there’d be no real reason not to unless you don’t run willpower. But do you think it would be reasonable to drop the percentage of damage taken per special from 5 to 3 percent? Or lower the damage by .75 percent for every level in it? What would you suggest, or would you even change anything? I’d love to hear your thoughts! In addition, if you have any tips or tricks to get around recoil that you’d like to share, go for it!

For the tips and tricks part i think if you phase in time with ghost your able to avoid recoil

Also w magik

And awakened CMM.

age_of_andycap

I've been using suicides for a long time now. Just my my own thoughts/opinion from playing with it on for so long, but it doesn't bother me as i use specials sparingly, and don't mind the damage. For the output of damage versus the amount of damage you take these days (harder content and lots of one hit deaths or large damage from a mistake), losing a bit here and there isn't a problem. If i die, I find i just use a 40% revive and keep on going, so having lots of health doesn't bother me either.

For champs like Void that help to spam specials, i already expect that i'll eat damage, and just have plan my fight around it. I only use him when needed, and not on any main team (again this is just for me and how i play).

Polygon

Or just use champs like AA that dont need specials

Jana3011

I really really hate recoil . It wont work if we dont have defuff like bleed. Not only me who dislike this. There are alot people keep commenting "Recoil is waste" in youtube comment section.

jgraz

Gardener said:

For the tips and tricks part i think if you phase in time with ghost your able to avoid recoil

Black_Swan said:

Also w magik

Kill_Grey said:

And awakened CMM.

Rulk special 2 will regenerate a touch more then the recoil damage. And with synergy even more
Rouge special 1 will almost always draw more health then recoil
Omega special 1 with 10+ spores with out heal the recoil

AATT

They are know as suicides. You need to sacrifice something for attack boost. +60% is a huge boost, so fights are quite faster than with a normal mastery setup.

This should continue like it is. Imagine removing recoil, most players will switch to suicides masteries and Kabam will start increasing health pools of future path defenders and bosses. I don't want that