4* cavalier difficulty , misleading info by Kabam

HarryBosch

I just did the 4* cav event in sec 5 (3.1) This is the immortal hulk boss

I chose to do this first. Nowhere in the original post does it say I MUST do 1.1 then 1.2 then 1.3 and so on.

Kabam replies with this is IMPLIED. That’s fn bs. It is not my fault Kabam didn’t clearly CONVEY this had to be in order.

Kabam ... your customer / gamer experience team needs to learn a thing or two.

I’ll be escalating this issue ... watch

Crcrcrc

Your fault for not reading the objectives

GroundedWisdom

"Defeat the final boss of Quest 1......."

Reference

Your assumption is different from majority, if you read the objective it is quite clear: you can’t move to next higher level objective if you don’t finish the 1st level. This is something implied.

If you are capable enough, try again with 4* later and start from 1.1.

KDSuperFlash10

You have to do the quests in order

DNA3000

HarryBosch said:

I just did the 4* cav event in sec 5 (3.1) This is the immortal hulk boss

I chose to do this first. Nowhere in the original post does it say I MUST do 1.1 then 1.2 then 1.3 and so on.

Kabam replies with this is IMPLIED. That’s fn bs. It is not my fault Kabam didn’t clearly CONVEY this had to be in order.

Kabam ... your customer / gamer experience team needs to learn a thing or two.

I’ll be escalating this issue ... watch

Actually, this is implied by virtue of the fact that the 4* challenge is an objective, not an event. And all objectives must be done in order. No objective chain allows you to skip to the end, and furthermore the game does in fact make this plain by only *showing* you the objectives you can do. You have to go out of your way to drill into the objective to see what the objective chain looks like.

Beyond that, there's this idea that floats around that if the game doesn't explicitly wave a giant sign that says "don't do this" then it is the game's fault if a player does something weird. That's not a reasonable expectation. Where the situation is ambiguous the game should provide reasonable information, but in this case there is no ambiguity to the order in which you are allowed to do an objective chain. Since the game clearly enforces the need to do objective chains in order, it would be unreasonable for the game to have to take the extra step of spelling this out for this one particular objective.

ImGodMF

If you can do them out of order I'd just do 3.2 for 10% t5cc and not bother with the 5 5* generic stones

HarryBosch

@DNA3000 u get what you’re saying but where does it state an objective = implied by virtue. The game should provide clear guidance always. Ex: if a player buys one package then this UNLOCKS the next package. Clearly Kabam has provided clear guidance before. Another Ex: In order to play LOL, a player must finish ROTL.

It’s the same “implied” logic bro.

Yes, I did the challenge a few months ago. But nowhere (then) did it say I had to do it in order. I “luckily” did it in order because I didn’t want to re-do the quest again.

ImGodMF

Nah dude, if you dont have to do it in order, you could literally just do 3.2 and claim the t5cc.. it was your fault. Just accept it and start from 1.1

GinjabredMonsta

This is always how the side missions have been and you always have to go in order. It literally says quest 1

Crcrcrc

Zan0 said:

HarryBosch said:

@DNA3000 u get what you’re saying but where does it state an objective = implied by virtue. The game should provide clear guidance always. Ex: if a player buys one package then this UNLOCKS the next package. Clearly Kabam has provided clear guidance before. Another Ex: In order to play LOL, a player must finish ROTL.

It’s the same “implied” logic bro.

Yes, I did the challenge a few months ago. But nowhere (then) did it say I had to do it in order. I “luckily” did it in order because I didn’t want to re-do the quest again.

what is ROTL?
and you don't need to do anything other then be level 40 for LOL

Road to Labyrinth. It used to be the requirement for LOL

Pulyaman

Zan0 said:

HarryBosch said:

@DNA3000 u get what you’re saying but where does it state an objective = implied by virtue. The game should provide clear guidance always. Ex: if a player buys one package then this UNLOCKS the next package. Clearly Kabam has provided clear guidance before. Another Ex: In order to play LOL, a player must finish ROTL.

It’s the same “implied” logic bro.

Yes, I did the challenge a few months ago. But nowhere (then) did it say I had to do it in order. I “luckily” did it in order because I didn’t want to re-do the quest again.

what is ROTL?
and you don't need to do anything other then be level 40 for LOL

The requirement was changed when AOL was introduced. It used to be gated behind ROTL before.

Solswerd

ImGodMF said:

Nah dude, if you dont have to do it in order, you could literally just do 3.2 and claim the t5cc.. it was your fault. Just accept it and start from 1.1

This times 1,000

HarryBosch

ImGodMF said:

If you can do them out of order I'd just do 3.2 for 10% t5cc and not bother with the 5 5* generic stones

Wait. I can do just 3.2 and get the t5cc?? That is all I care for

Crcrcrc

HarryBosch said:

ImGodMF said:

If you can do them out of order I'd just do 3.2 for 10% t5cc and not bother with the 5 5* generic stones

Wait. I can do just 3.2 and get the t5cc?? That is all I care for

No, he is saying that you cannot skip and you could just do 3.2 if you could skip.

GroundedWisdom

ẞlооd said:

This reminds me of when that woman sued McDonald's for getting burnt from a hot pickle...

I didn't know that mutated as it went around (unless there was a separate case), but the elderly woman who sued because she burned herself from spilling coffee on her lap endured 3rd degree burns and required skin grafts. I laughed at that case myself until I heard the details. The coffee was beyond hot.

GroundedWisdom

Zan0 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ẞlооd said:

This reminds me of when that woman sued McDonald's for getting burnt from a hot pickle...

I didn't know that mutated as it went around (unless there was a separate case), but the elderly woman who sued because she burned herself from spilling coffee on her lap endured 3rd degree burns and required skin grafts. I laughed at that case myself until I heard the details. The coffee was beyond hot.

Yeah it was horrible for her, the coffee was literally boiling. If I remember correctly she did win the case

Over 2 Mil.

Mauled

I mean if you don’t read the objectives that’s on you

Mauled

I mean if you read the objectives it clearly states 1.1 I don’t know why completing 1.2, 2.1, 2.2, 3.1 or 3.2 would complete 1.1

Giuliameij

It is pretty clear by the objective to be fair. You first do 1/6, than 2/6. Otherwise it wouldnt be 2/6. It implies you have to do something before it.

-sixate-

Read the objectives, you must start with the first one. Since when have we been able to start in the middle of an objective? lol

GinjabredMonsta

HI_guys said:

Mauled said:

I mean if you don’t read the objectives that’s on you

Its on Kabam for not locking the objective. Doing that would have killed a lot of threads

Not on this one. They shouldn't have to hold our hand for something that the description even shows it going in order