AW exploit readdressed .. not placing defenders

Timbo5746Timbo5746 Member Posts: 10 ★
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How is it possible that an alliance places 25 less defenders .. gets 14 KOs .. and still managed to get more points in attack bonus?! If there are 240pts available per defender .. and there are 100 defenders - you should only be able to get 24k points in attack bonus .. but when you consider that they got 14 KOs - that means that they should have access to only 22,880 pts .. how in the world did they end up with 24,800 pts???!!!!

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  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,652 ★★★★★
    Because the empty nodes still count for attack bonus.
  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★
    How many defenders you place has no impact on how much attack bonus you get? By placing fewer defenders, they simply give free attack bonuses to the other team?
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 14,034 Guardian
    Your side had 25 less nodes that you had to fight on, yet you still died 14 times more than your opponents did.

    Also even though they placed a lot less defenders, 71 out of their 75 were “diverse”. While you placed a lot of duplicates (only had 81 out of 100 for diversity). So you only had 10 better diversity even though placed 25 more champs than they did.

    And as stated, you traveling past all those empty nodes didn’t cost you any points, you still got Full Bonus pts for traveling past empty nodes.
  • Timbo5746Timbo5746 Member Posts: 10 ★
    Are we in agreement that you get 240pts for full attack bonus?

    If so.. do we agree that 100 defenders nets you a maximum of 24000 pts of attack bonus?!

    If we can agree on these 2 principals .. then someone needs to explain how they not only managed to clear 24,800 pts - when the max should have been 24000 pts .. but also how they not only went above the max - but didn't have their 14 KOs counted against them? Their maximum attack bonus should have been 22880!!
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 14,034 Guardian
    The 1120 difference in attack bonus is correct (14 x 80)

    As to total, there are either 5 more (or 4 more on lower maps) potential defender nodes (numbered nodes) that are left blank even when placing full defense.
    Those also give Attack Bonus even without a defender.
    So either 55 (or 54) per BG.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    There are 55 defender nodes per BG...
  • Timbo5746Timbo5746 Member Posts: 10 ★
    The math doesn't add up .. if you say there are 55 potential nodes .. that equals 25200 potential points in attack bonus .. 25200 - 14 KOs (1120pts) still equals out to only 24080 pts!
  • Capn_DanteCapn_Dante Member Posts: 582 ★★★
    edited December 2020
    The 14 kos might not have been seperate nodes ... If 4 deaths were to the same nodes (ie. the boss) that's still 3 attack bonuses lost not 4... You shouldn't accuse people of cheating if you don't know how war works you should instead ask how war works
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,171 ★★★★★
    There exists no method of cheating that can bypass the scoring metrics.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,962 ★★★★★
    Capn_Dante said:

    The 14 kos might not have been seperate nodes ... If 4 deaths were to the same nodes (ie. the boss) that's still 3 attack bonuses lost not 4... You shouldn't accuse people of cheating if you don't know how war works you should instead ask how war works

    This. Anything over 3 kills doesn't count against the attacking team.
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,956 Guardian
    This is textbook not understanding how scoring works. Listen to these people.

    3 attack bonus/node whether there’s a defender there or not.

    Anymore than 3 deaths on a node don’t count.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 14,034 Guardian
    edited December 2020
    Timbo5746 said:

    The math doesn't add up .. if you say there are 55 potential nodes .. that equals 25200 potential points in attack bonus .. 25200 - 14 KOs (1120pts) still equals out to only 24080 pts!

    (for the record, looks like your war was a low enough Tier Map that it is only 54 nodes, not 55 as in higher level maps)

    But anyways, your math above is wrong. Assuming the 55 (110 total across 2 BG) times 240 is 26400, not 25200 in your reply, for maximum potential. (and for a 54 node map, thus actually 25920.

    So take 25920 and subtract 14x80, and you get 24800. Which is what it was.

    (and so what others mentioned as cases above 3 KO's on a same node did not appear to come into play for either side. All kills look like they were within the 1st 3 attempts).
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