I think we need to reflect as a community after the past 24 hours

The forums, community attitude, subreddit have all been soo toxic the past 24 hours and it turns out it was literally over nothing. The past 24 hours have been insane in terms of free gifts, great content, all around good things for the game but because people were so quick to become outraged over what turned out to be basically a non-issue it really brought the community down. As a whole in terms of free rewards uncollected players got 15k five star shard, 1 k six star shard, 2 T1 alpha, 2 energy refills, 2 T4CC, half a T2A, and 2,250 T5B shards; Cavalier players got 20K five star shard, 5 K six star shards, 20 5*sig stones, 3 T4CC, 1 T2A and 6,750 T5B. That's literally crazy in terms of free stuff, not even including the shard arenas and there is a clear upgrade in cavalier rewards vs uncollected rewards.

We didn't have all information, we knew this was a multiple stage event for the anniversary but because just one part of it was unsatisfactory people went crazy, saying they're going to quit the game, taking Loki up to rank 3, cursing out kabam. Seriously guys, kabam deserves a lot of the flack they get but this year objectively has been amazing in terms of quality of life improvements, community interaction, rewards and content. Kabam also deserves a little credit when its due so lets give them that this week.

Thank you for a game so many of us have enjoyed, some for over half a decade. To me MCOC is by far the deepest, most complete mobile gaming experience out there and I can't wait to see how the contest grows over the next few years

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Zizi1002

Your completely right I don't understand either

DrZola

The forums, community attitude, subreddit have all been soo toxic the past 24 hours and it turns out it was literally over nothing. The past 24 hours have been insane in terms of free gifts, great content, all around good things for the game but because people were so quick to become outraged over what turned out to be basically a non-issue it really brought the community down. As a whole in terms of free rewards uncollected players got 15k five star shard, 1 k six star shard, 2 T1 alpha, 2 energy refills, 2 T4CC, half a T2A, and 2,250 T5B shards; Cavalier players got 20K five star shard, 5 K six star shards, 20 5*sig stones, 3 T4CC, 1 T2A and 6,750 T5B. That's literally crazy in terms of free stuff, not even including the shard arenas and there is a clear upgrade in cavalier rewards vs uncollected rewards.

We didn't have all information, we knew this was a multiple stage event for the anniversary but because just one part of it was unsatisfactory people went crazy, saying they're going to quit the game, taking Loki up to rank 3, cursing out kabam. Seriously guys, kabam deserves a lot of the flack they get but this year objectively has been amazing in terms of quality of life improvements, community interaction, rewards and content. Kabam also deserves a little credit when its due so lets give them that this week.

Thank you for a game so many of us have enjoyed, some for over half a decade. To me MCOC is by far the deepest, most complete mobile gaming experience out there and I can't wait to see how the contest grows over the next few years

Thoughtful. And not too long.

Dr. Zola

BitterSteel

Kabam have absolutely smashed December, and in my opinion the year too. Abyss was a slam dunk, act 6 had its rough parts but the nerfs have helped and I really enjoyed the content regardless, act 7 has got off to an incredible start I am loving these nodes that help you with the challenge of the fight. And these gifts are incredible, even for a cavalier account

Waynedavy

Kabam isn’t worried or gonna lose sleep of peoples outrage. I mean you act like they got feelings hurt or something

Aleor

Game being down makes me think these extra gifts were made in one day, possibly because of community sad response on cav calendar.

Sungj

Kabam isn’t worried or gonna lose sleep of peoples outrage. I mean you act like they got feelings hurt or something

Lol I'm not trying to say we should be better to kabam for kabam's sake . I'm saying we should try to do better as a community for the community. Trying to read through the forums today and yesterday was a living hell and it was all because of an overreaction. I specifically said we were bringing community down with this unearned outrage because at the end of the day it's us players that suffer when people lose their cool and act like every small thing is the end of the world. Someone literally took 6* unduped loki up to rank 3 because of the outrage and lack of reasonable discussion around it. I bet he feels real regret now

kingbradley1297

Lmao now go look at the shards arena thread.

SpideyFunko

the crazy shard arenas argument don’t work no more

what the actual heck

GMAX77

Appreciate the perspective. There is always going to be a degree of entitlement anywhere you go. Sometimes it does feel like whatever we as a community won't be enough. Ultimately it falls on the individuals and whether or not rewards are "expected" or "appreciated".

GroundedWisdom

I've had a couple issues, with an Event geared around Cavs and the Calendar that didn't make sense, but I don't hold it personal at the end of the day. I'm still grateful for the game and all the team does. I don't necessarily agree that all feedback is entitlement. I do think that there's a lot of take and not enough give in terms of leeway, on the part of some people. Then again, people are going to be people, and we have no control over it. All we can do is choose how we put ourselves forward.

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Bidzy7

It's a small minority. Those that feel outraged are more likely to come to the forums and express their dissatisfaction then those that are generally happy with things.

The fact we are year 6 of this games speaks volumes for the games ability to keep the masses entertained.

JessieS

Kabam have only themselves to blame . The ridiculous way they set up the arena shards was so stupid that literally anyone with even a shred of common sense could see that it was a bad idea . They could have easily set up the arenas to last until the end of December so that everybody could take their timee and enjoy themselves . Instead they force people to grind like crazy right before the holidays . The fact that they started censoring everybody also didn’t help
So as far I am concerned the backlash was great and I hope that Kabam learns something from it and hires someone with common sense to look over their future events

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Colinwhitworth69

Kabam's anniversary gifts prove on thing: that they can be generous with their virtual, infinite resources without wrecking the game. When they ask us to spend money on things, they should be equally generous, but rarely is that the case.

Texas_11

Kabam's anniversary gifts prove on thing: that they can be generous with their virtual, infinite resources without wrecking the game. When they ask us to spend money on things, they should be equally generous, but rarely is that the case.

It may be virtual , but it’s definitely not cheap. They have families as well and need to put food on their table. Either that, or be riddled with Ads to support a game. They plan on these events well in advanced , so if 4 months ago they said they were afraid of game balance, they most likely knew the holiday calendar. Who knows the Christmas gift .

Texas_11

Kabam have only themselves to blame . The ridiculous way they set up the arena shards was so stupid that literally anyone with even a shred of common sense could see that it was a bad idea . They could have easily set up the arenas to last until the end of December so that everybody could take their timee and enjoy themselves . Instead they force people to grind like crazy right before the holidays . The fact that they started censoring everybody also didn’t help
So as far I am concerned the backlash was great and I hope that Kabam learns something from it and hires someone with common sense to look over their future events

You know this game is has an option to grind or not grind right? Why do you feel like you have to take time away from your family to play a video game? Play at your own pace.

fchskm

Are you really saying MCOC community is toxic?
The community is almost as toxic as Kabam.

TyEdge

I think the persistently increasing frustration comes from repeated failures to communicate and set expectations.

When we look at the last two weeks, most notably outrage over offers, the anniversary calendar, and the arena, reflection means looking backwards to understand what could’ve been done differently.

This isn’t a post to complain. It’s here to provide examples of how to avoid problems in the future based on recent outcries.

Any one of these things could have avoided one or more of the bouts of negativity that cropped up:

1) announce Thronebreaker in the roadmap. Don’t hide something as significant as a progression title for two extra months. This has the added perk of fostering extra July 4 spending for people trying to reach the title close to launch.

2) announce with the July 4 offers that they won’t be this good again because the cavalier pool will shrink in the future. This also probably benefits Kabam’s bottom line.

3) explain the shifted focus (or relevant resources) to expect for each title once TB comes out. The difference between building a 5-star roster and a 6-star roster. This would’ve tempered Black Friday expectations.

4) for the arena, a simple disclaimer could have announced “these rewards are too big for inflated bonus points. Getting all the rewards will take a LOT.” Alternatively, make the arena last a month or something.

Kabam has improved cavalier EQ. There are lots of rewards, calendars and content this month. If the game were played in a bubble where people didn’t know what TB players were getting, the frustration this week would be nonexistent. On the other hand, if you feel slighted less than two weeks after REALLY feeling slighted, people lash out real hard.

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GroundedWisdom

Do you think any of this would have happened if seatin didn't rebel few moths back, the only reason everyone got a bit more is cos of that, otherwise they care not about players unless they have to and Seatin made it possible for all of us. So respect to him, not kabam and their empoyees.

Let me guess. A fan?

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GroundedWisdom

No, I was never a fan, nor will I be. Nut it is the truth and you know it.

Seatin didn't change anything any more than anyone else. What he has is a platform that reaches many people. Those people are who collectively voice their concerns. Not just one person.

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Big_eggy

This month has been amazing for me so far. No real complaints. Free rewards everywhere is all I can ask for and I thank Kabam for letting me have so much fun.

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DNA3000

Do you think any of this would have happened if seatin didn't rebel few moths back, the only reason everyone got a bit more is cos of that, otherwise they care not about players unless they have to and Seatin made it possible for all of us. So respect to him, not kabam and their empoyees.

If this is what you really think, perhaps you should address your concerns to Seatin. Cut out the middle man and send your feedback right to the only person who matters.

Actually, don't do that. I wouldn't wish that upon Seatin or anyone else for that matter. I do find it frustrating that it is very difficult to give Seatin his proper due. He's one of the most popular visible community members and his voice carries significant weight among his audience - which there's nothing wrong with by the way - and his video became the focal point for a lot of discussion that was brewing at the time, and it is extremely difficult to fully estimate the impact he had on the discussion going on at the time. He deserves full credit for that. He probably deserves more credit than he gets in general, maybe even from me.

But the "only Seatin matters" crowd makes it extremely difficult, because they not only oversimplify, but belittle the huge contributions that were and are being made by other players also providing feedback and directing the conversation. Anyone who was in the Book 2 beta would know that the discussion that spilled over into the forums was already happening before Seatin posted his video, and Kabam was already starting to take notice of it. Certainly, Seatin's video had a significant impact on that discussion, but he wasn't its origin, and he wasn't its sole guiding force.

It is very difficult to give a community member like Seatin his fair credit without going overboard, and it is also difficult to counter the people who give him way too much credit without seemingly taking swipes at him as collateral damage. But man I wish the people who think that if not for Seatin Kabam wouldn't listen to the community at all would grow a brain sometimes.