Elsa or Black Widow (Deadly Origin)

Jank39

So I recently picked up both as a 6* and wondering which if either is worth taking to R2. Neither are duped.

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Kill_Grey

Elsa.

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Jank39

Elsa.

Convince me please 🤔😁

Agent_X_zzz

I am a big fan of BWDO, fantastic animations very fluid to play and intercept with, great for disstrack, thunder struck and has a nice -90% aar with sabotauge, only deals energy damage, so bypasses korgs rock shield and works for psychic thorns, very high dps and can solo a bunch of the act 7 bosses, including the Tantrum Rhino

Kill_Grey

Elsa.
Convince me please 🤔😁

Elsa actually has utility. Can shrug off non-damaging debuffs, which helps against champs like mister fantastic, or nodes like spectre and cascading failure. Her counterparry can save you in tough situation and bypasses stun immunity or limber. Her evade counter is very reliable, and makes mix master fights remarkably easy. High crit rate plus the direct damage from the busted debuffs (which nobody is immune to), are extremely good. She can handle buffed up, diss track, and is amazing in the skill quest of cav EQ. Her incinerate makes her amazingly good for pleasure to burn and selective timestream.

Overall, she's a very solid champ and I have her as a rank 2 6*. I'm 30% away from a rank 3, and she will be my first skill rank 3 no matter what.

Btw, she works very well with suicides as well.

Jank39

Elsa.
Convince me please 🤔😁
Elsa actually has utility. Can shrug off non-damaging debuffs, which helps against champs like mister fantastic, or nodes like spectre and cascading failure. Her counterparry can save you in tough situation and bypasses stun immunity or limber. Her evade counter is very reliable, and makes mix master fights remarkably easy. High crit rate plus the direct damage from the busted debuffs (which nobody is immune to), are extremely good. She can handle buffed up, diss track, and is amazing in the skill quest of cav EQ. Her incinerate makes her amazingly good for pleasure to burn and selective timestream.

Overall, she's a very solid champ and I have her as a rank 2 6*. I'm 30% away from a rank 3, and she will be my first skill rank 3 no matter what.

Btw, she works very well with suicides as well.

Thanks for that. I really appreciate the detail.
Truth be told I've been put off a little by Elsa's damage output and advice from my alliance has been not to bother with her unless she is duped so I've really not tested her out much while BWDO just seemed to be really fun and easy right out of the box. I will give her a run in book 2 and see how she compares. Thanks again!

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Qacob

I am a big fan of BWDO, fantastic animations very fluid to play and intercept with, great for disstrack, thunder struck and has a nice -90% aar with sabotauge, only deals energy damage, so bypasses korgs rock shield and works for psychic thorns, very high dps and can solo a bunch of the act 7 bosses, including the Tantrum Rhino

^ what he said

+buffed up counter, best champ for cav EQ skill node, best miss counter in the game.

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Kill_Grey

I am a big fan of BWDO, fantastic animations very fluid to play and intercept with, great for disstrack, thunder struck and has a nice -90% aar with sabotauge, only deals energy damage, so bypasses korgs rock shield and works for psychic thorns, very high dps and can solo a bunch of the act 7 bosses, including the Tantrum Rhino
^ what he said

+buffed up counter, best champ for cav EQ skill node, best miss counter in the game.

Stealthy, Nick, and the flaming dood of who's name I dare not say, are all better miss counters.

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Kill_Grey

I am a big fan of BWDO, fantastic animations very fluid to play and intercept with, great for disstrack, thunder struck and has a nice -90% aar with sabotauge, only deals energy damage, so bypasses korgs rock shield and works for psychic thorns, very high dps and can solo a bunch of the act 7 bosses, including the Tantrum Rhino
^ what he said

+buffed up counter, best champ for cav EQ skill node, best miss counter in the game.
Best miss counter in the game is Quake, but BWDO isn’t bad at all
It seems this got disagree spammed. Can't miss if you never hit the opponent

I'd love to see your solo of 6.3.5 mysterio with Quake.

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Jank39

Looks like the votes are tied. You gonna flip a coin I assume?

Its 2 to 1 now in favour of of BW. But given the utility of Elsa I am not sure if I am part of the dumb majority leaning towards BW or others just over value what Elsa can do?! 🤷🤦‍♂️

Kill_Grey

Looks like the votes are tied. You gonna flip a coin I assume?
Its 2 to 1 now in favour of of BW. But given the utility of Elsa I am not sure if I am part of the dumb majority leaning towards BW or others just over value what Elsa can do?! 🤷🤦‍♂️

No, people must overvalue what BWDO can do.

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Jank39

Looks like the votes are tied. You gonna flip a coin I assume?
Its 2 to 1 now in favour of of BW. But given the utility of Elsa I am not sure if I am part of the dumb majority leaning towards BW or others just over value what Elsa can do?! 🤷🤦‍♂️
No, people must overvalue what BWDO can do.

You convinced me to do a fair bit more research and strangely contrary to popular opinion all roads point to elsa. Thanks again.

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