Where is the transparency when it comes to DDHK?

This is unanimously the most disappointing buff ever in this game, even more so than Ebony Maw. How did it come to be this way and how did this messy kit even make it through testing? They gave him 70% less healing OVERALL meaning he takes 70% less healing from any debuff with willpower... 100% with liquid courage active. Not only does this hurt him against suicides, but every single debuff inflicted against him.

Not only this, but his damage output is honestly pathetic for the amount of effort needed to balance the combo meter. His fury buffs are too short and too weak; his non-damaging debuff bonus is miniscule. This guy needs improvements because at this point he was better before he was buffed with a full synergy team and that's just sad...

We want answers Kabam! When will we get them? It's almost like you're trying to cover up the lackluster buff with all these events.

Comments

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

Just a bad buff man, who knows maybe his situation ends up like HT

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

And as for anyone who is angry at Kabam for his lackluster buff because you ranked him, you obviously should not just trust Kabam. Pretty sure they've advertised stuff in game before that has been less than truthful. Don't automatically take the word of Kabam or others when it comes to your account, do whatever you want to do

Savage

Just a bad buff man, who knows maybe his situation ends up like HT

I wish... the flaws outweigh the good bits of his kit though. He has a decent set of utilities but man is his damage output and compatibility with the suicide/willpower masteries, which are the two most important masteries in the game outside of parry and dexterity, utterly weak.

Palanthrax

The buff is working as intended, he’s a significantly better defender. This wasn’t a player buff, this was a Kabam buff.

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

@Savage I guess we can be hopeful for anything. I don't know but I think Kabam is grinding hard to do stuff as they have not really followed up on communication (I could understand ignoring spam threads) but they just seem to be a bit busy right now

Savage

If any of you were wondering... here is what the old kit looked like. I'd honestly take a 85% chance to evade projectiles, 35% perfect block w/2 sec parry stuns, decent armor break, and (funny enough better damage) than the state he is now.

TheInfinty

Ok I hardcore disagree with ebony maws buff being better DDHK wasn’t amazing but he’s a a hell of a lot better then maw

Savage

Ok I hardcore disagree with ebony maws buff being better DDHK wasn’t amazing but he’s a a hell of a lot better then maw

I didn't say Maw was better. I said that his buff was more disappointing than Maw's and in a sense that is true because of Daredevil's influence.

Masterpuff

It is pretty bad, but worse than Maws “buff”? He barely got touched in his “buff”.

magnus_xix

and (funny enough better damage) than the state he is now.

Savage

and (funny enough better damage) than the state he is now.

https://youtu.be/Vf82W6hCMI0

Courtesy of @Karatemike415 . In the video it's about the same as he is now but I tried him out myself in the act 7 beta and found a way to stack above 10 armor breaks even without the synergies. All the armor break durations synergies do is allow him to play more with that number.

Mattstafari

I wonder if we'll get a deep dud
dive for him where we can learn his true potential.

Btw the Sentry buff was also pretty spectacular back in the day.

Savage

Don't know if people are disagreeing over my Maw comment (DDHK is better) or that we need feedback from Kabam themselves about this mediocre buff (you're trolling if you think otherwise) but all you need to do is take a look yourselves. If you think Immortal Hulk is bad and needs tweaking oh boy... you should try playing with this guy. At least Immortal Hulk can be used in Act 7... with suicides, and is finding more and more use lol

FluffyPigMonster

So, I’ve been all over this buff. Here’s the harsh reality.

His base kit is actually extremely useful. It’s got the potential to make him a monster. Shrugs off debuffs and increases damage the more debuffs on him (non DOT). His SP3 is great. 70 second damage potential increase? And it’s not critical to be used with sp1 and SP2.

Furies are solid. And his sig ability, although it requires Max sig lets him bypass so much stuff.

All that HOWEVER, he becomes unplayable because of the regeneration issue.

His self inflicted rage is considered a debuff, so Kabam doesn’t want you to have a free heal (it is a non damaging debuff that converts to a fury).

They set regeneration for him at 40% of what willpower would give you to make sure you don’t heal up and never get knocked out. The problem with this is

1. It affects all Damage Over Time debuffs as well. So if you had willpower set to 2, most likely you’re holding your own against a bleed or incinerate or whatever. In his case it takes away 60% of what willpower should be giving you.

So any other champion in the game would heal with willpower at a normal rate except him. He melts from DOT debuffs. This means suicides are not an option and is totally unfair making him unplayable unless....

2. You never make a mistake. He is a VERY skill based champion. A couple of mistakes and you’ll never heal enough from the 40% rage debuff to make him usable.

His buff was good EXCEPT from the one aspect. I’ve posted many MANY times for the admin to just give us the posture of the development team.

Will you find a solution for the regeneration issue or leave him as is.

I would R5 my 5* if the regen was fixed. I love his base kit. The regen issue makes him non usable in anything relevant.

There are other things people want from him but the regen thing is what will make or break him.

So as for transparency, I agree with the OP - we’d like some kind of status on what the intention is going forward with him.

DPXFistheGOAT

"Transparency"

Nowhere. Hes blind

Savage

"Transparency"

Nowhere. Hes blind

Haha Good one.

Meebleton

If you don't run suicides he's pretty good, not exceptional but good. Decent damage, counters damageback such as thorns, ability accuracy reduction and can shrug off non damaging debuffs. He's certainly much better than he was before.

FluffyPigMonster

If you don't run suicides he's pretty good, not exceptional but good. Decent damage, counters damageback such as thorns, ability accuracy reduction and can shrug off non damaging debuffs. He's certainly much better than he was before.

I agree. The regen thing kills him. You get nicked once by a DOT debuff and it sucks

AceLuffySabo

I was hoping my 2015 skill 3->4 rank up gem would finally be useful but I guess it's still a dead item... Hes absolutely useless with suicide masteries.

StevieManWonder

He’s mediocre with his regen in its current state. I’d say not even useable in any real content.

FluffyPigMonster

He’s mediocre with his regen in its current state. I’d say not even useable in any real content.

I’m confident they’ll find a solution for it at some point

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Savage

Kabam... 2 weeks later, is still unheard of. This is getting ridiculous. They even responded to a post and tweets about the next Champion buffs yet they don't address their most recent one? Will he ever be fixed?

GinjabredMonsta

What exactly are you wanting them to answer?

Savage

What exactly are you wanting them to answer?

Anything about his rework at this point. If they will or will not change him and what fixes they may be looking at to satisfy the masses.

kingbradley1297

This is unanimously the most disappointing buff ever in this game, even more so than Ebony Maw. How did it come to be this way and how did this messy kit even make it through testing? They gave him 70% less healing OVERALL meaning he takes 70% less healing from any debuff with willpower... 100% with liquid courage active. Not only does this hurt him against suicides, but every single debuff inflicted against him.

Not only this, but his damage output is honestly pathetic for the amount of effort needed to balance the combo meter. His fury buffs are too short and too weak; his non-damaging debuff bonus is miniscule. This guy needs improvements because at this point he was better before he was buffed with a full synergy team and that's just sad...

We want answers Kabam! When will we get them? It's almost like you're trying to cover up the lackluster buff with all these events.

I was very much suspicious when there was no beta access to his overhaul. The past 3 overhauls all had beta. I also had a great issue with the timing given all these crazy events in the way. There was no reason not to have this buff in January considering there is nothing planned then. But yeah, this got swept under the rug pretty quickly

This was definitely not a good overhaul. And the fixes were right there. I don't know why they're so conservative increasing his damage.

Mattstafari

He’s mediocre with his regen in its current state. I’d say not even useable in any real content.
I’m confident they’ll find a solution for it at some point

Early June

Kevo9513

Me who doesn’t have willpower or suicides unlocked reading this thread

GroundedWisdom

What exactly are you wanting them to answer?
Anything about his rework at this point. If they will or will not change him and what fixes they may be looking at to satisfy the masses.

They haven't redone a rework yet. It might be possible, but I have yet to see it. He's better than he was anyway. That's the first and foremost objective with these. They're not all going to be Top Tier.