CHAMPION UPDATES/UPGRADES
SupremeWarlord
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Kabam,
I would like to suggest and request that you look at what has happened with DARE DEVIL (H.K.) and please try to take a few things into consideration going forward when you update/upgrade/overhaul certain champions. I have 2 main points which I will elaborate on: 1) If you are going to bother to completely change a champion abilities, there should be an OBVIOUS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE in their effectiveness, and 2) Not every champion needs a complete overhaul (example: you updated Falcon but kept his scan/lock on ability)
I have seen a few responses from Kabam to posts complaining about HK where the response was "every update can't be Magneto". I completely understand and agree, and I don't think that's what people were looking for, but the problem is most people see no increase in his value after his update, and in fact many see it as a downgrade. I think your intentions were good but you guys simply missed the mark with this one and the abilities on paper don't really translate to an improved game play experience, or he has to be used in such a specific way that no one will get his intended value out of him.
I have been very happy and impressed with all of the champion updates so far up until H.K., especially Colossus and Magneto. Most people agree that H.K. is underwhelming after his recent update and I personally am disappointed that he no longer has armor break with his medium attack. Those are my 2 main concerns: 1) That you completely changed him, and in my opinion and most that I have read he is not much better if at all, in fact I think he is worse. 2) You removed what I saw as an extremely valuable and unique ability from him. Although I am not very impressed with Falcon after his update, I like the fact that you kept his scan/lock-on ability but enhanced him with other abilities. He is the only one with an ability like that, like DD was with his armor break medium, and it should not be eliminated.
DAREDEVIL Netflix (Now H.K.) was in a category of Champions I would call the USEFUL category. Alot of these USEFUL champions have very unique and valuable abilities but have received bad [press? reputation? opinions? reviews?] from much of the vocal community for lacking attack power (which is the main gauge for the value of champions in this game). This mischaracterization has created a certain image of them as "less than valuable", but I strongly disagree with many of them. Also, when people rate champions in this game they mainly go by potential attack power so alot of champions get called trash when they are in fact good defenders, like Groot for example.
I am afraid that in an effort to please the long dissatisfied community you might start over-reaching into this category and doing away with some very unique and valuable champions that many people quietly enjoy.
Here are some of my USEFUL champions, sleepers, and guilty pleasures, lol:
DAREDEVIL Netflix - Stack armor breaks from medium (so useful, valuable, unique, and easy to use. Is there another champion that can win fights so easily just parrying and doing mediums with one hand?)
AGENT VENOM - Debuff Shrug off and Incinerate from SP2
BLACK BOLT - Raw power. His abilities make him stronger the more he gets hit which many people do not like because it rewards you for getting hit, but not everyone has the skill to dex every attack and some people enjoy a BRAWLING style of fight, and using champions like Black Bolt, Hulk, Thing, Korg, The Champion, Colossus, Unstoppable Colossus, King Groot, Kingpin, Antman, and Beardo Cap to name a few. I do not think Black Bolt needs an update.
ROGUE - Lifesteal. Soooo under-rated but like many champs added to the game early she's very dependent on high or max sig and it can take FOREVER to realize her potential. She is quietly a Goddess but needs high or max sig.
PHOENIX - Right of the Phoenix, Fury, Incinerate. I think most people do not realize how to use her. She is a champion that needs to be used a specific way but has an easy rotation to perform. Spam heavies, stack fury, she gains incinerate and stun, and if awakened she can defy death and regen alot of health.
BLACK WIDOW - Another Goddess added early dependent on Max sig (was better before nerf).
WAR MACHINE - Armor, long distance specials, multiple hit sp1/sp3 impossible to avoid, aggressive. One of my guilty pleasures. Not good for end game content but Colonel Roades has his role and plays it well.
JANE FOSTER - Like Phoenix, another medium skill champion who needs to be played a certain way but it's an easy rotation. Basically just spam heavies and sp1s. Guaranteed crits to stunned opponents. Many have called her the worst Mystic but I like her and think she is under-rated.
ANTMAN - Glancing and poison. A GREAT defender (but can be taken down by damage-over-time effects) and a great brawler attacker. Highly under-rated.
UNSTOPPABLE COLOSSUS - Unstoppable and bleed immune. People call him meme tier but I find him so much damn fun to play with and he has alot of uses. Again, not best choice for end-game level content but for mid level stuff he is fun to use and ends fights quickly, plus he can be a really good defender in the right tier of war on the right node. I hope you guys don't touch him or if you do keep him the same but just add a little something to enhance him.
I could go on but those are my main ones. I'll end it there.
TRASH CATEGORY (DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO 'EM. CAN'T BE MUCH WORSE):
Joe Fixit, Diablo, Kamala Khan, Iron Fist, Sentry, Carnage, Night Trasher, Beast, Bishop. Basically most of the champs in my 5-star bargain basement.
Keep up the good work. I finally feel like you guys are making a genuine effort with all of the improved offers and champion updates. Thanks for listening.
I would like to suggest and request that you look at what has happened with DARE DEVIL (H.K.) and please try to take a few things into consideration going forward when you update/upgrade/overhaul certain champions. I have 2 main points which I will elaborate on: 1) If you are going to bother to completely change a champion abilities, there should be an OBVIOUS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE in their effectiveness, and 2) Not every champion needs a complete overhaul (example: you updated Falcon but kept his scan/lock on ability)
I have seen a few responses from Kabam to posts complaining about HK where the response was "every update can't be Magneto". I completely understand and agree, and I don't think that's what people were looking for, but the problem is most people see no increase in his value after his update, and in fact many see it as a downgrade. I think your intentions were good but you guys simply missed the mark with this one and the abilities on paper don't really translate to an improved game play experience, or he has to be used in such a specific way that no one will get his intended value out of him.
I have been very happy and impressed with all of the champion updates so far up until H.K., especially Colossus and Magneto. Most people agree that H.K. is underwhelming after his recent update and I personally am disappointed that he no longer has armor break with his medium attack. Those are my 2 main concerns: 1) That you completely changed him, and in my opinion and most that I have read he is not much better if at all, in fact I think he is worse. 2) You removed what I saw as an extremely valuable and unique ability from him. Although I am not very impressed with Falcon after his update, I like the fact that you kept his scan/lock-on ability but enhanced him with other abilities. He is the only one with an ability like that, like DD was with his armor break medium, and it should not be eliminated.
DAREDEVIL Netflix (Now H.K.) was in a category of Champions I would call the USEFUL category. Alot of these USEFUL champions have very unique and valuable abilities but have received bad [press? reputation? opinions? reviews?] from much of the vocal community for lacking attack power (which is the main gauge for the value of champions in this game). This mischaracterization has created a certain image of them as "less than valuable", but I strongly disagree with many of them. Also, when people rate champions in this game they mainly go by potential attack power so alot of champions get called trash when they are in fact good defenders, like Groot for example.
I am afraid that in an effort to please the long dissatisfied community you might start over-reaching into this category and doing away with some very unique and valuable champions that many people quietly enjoy.
Here are some of my USEFUL champions, sleepers, and guilty pleasures, lol:
DAREDEVIL Netflix - Stack armor breaks from medium (so useful, valuable, unique, and easy to use. Is there another champion that can win fights so easily just parrying and doing mediums with one hand?)
AGENT VENOM - Debuff Shrug off and Incinerate from SP2
BLACK BOLT - Raw power. His abilities make him stronger the more he gets hit which many people do not like because it rewards you for getting hit, but not everyone has the skill to dex every attack and some people enjoy a BRAWLING style of fight, and using champions like Black Bolt, Hulk, Thing, Korg, The Champion, Colossus, Unstoppable Colossus, King Groot, Kingpin, Antman, and Beardo Cap to name a few. I do not think Black Bolt needs an update.
ROGUE - Lifesteal. Soooo under-rated but like many champs added to the game early she's very dependent on high or max sig and it can take FOREVER to realize her potential. She is quietly a Goddess but needs high or max sig.
PHOENIX - Right of the Phoenix, Fury, Incinerate. I think most people do not realize how to use her. She is a champion that needs to be used a specific way but has an easy rotation to perform. Spam heavies, stack fury, she gains incinerate and stun, and if awakened she can defy death and regen alot of health.
BLACK WIDOW - Another Goddess added early dependent on Max sig (was better before nerf).
WAR MACHINE - Armor, long distance specials, multiple hit sp1/sp3 impossible to avoid, aggressive. One of my guilty pleasures. Not good for end game content but Colonel Roades has his role and plays it well.
JANE FOSTER - Like Phoenix, another medium skill champion who needs to be played a certain way but it's an easy rotation. Basically just spam heavies and sp1s. Guaranteed crits to stunned opponents. Many have called her the worst Mystic but I like her and think she is under-rated.
ANTMAN - Glancing and poison. A GREAT defender (but can be taken down by damage-over-time effects) and a great brawler attacker. Highly under-rated.
UNSTOPPABLE COLOSSUS - Unstoppable and bleed immune. People call him meme tier but I find him so much damn fun to play with and he has alot of uses. Again, not best choice for end-game level content but for mid level stuff he is fun to use and ends fights quickly, plus he can be a really good defender in the right tier of war on the right node. I hope you guys don't touch him or if you do keep him the same but just add a little something to enhance him.
I could go on but those are my main ones. I'll end it there.
TRASH CATEGORY (DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO 'EM. CAN'T BE MUCH WORSE):
Joe Fixit, Diablo, Kamala Khan, Iron Fist, Sentry, Carnage, Night Trasher, Beast, Bishop. Basically most of the champs in my 5-star bargain basement.
Keep up the good work. I finally feel like you guys are making a genuine effort with all of the improved offers and champion updates. Thanks for listening.
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