My newest r5 5*. Thoughts?

Terra

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Rookiie

@FluffyPigMonster

Sarvanga1_

Wish he was as good as in the show.

SpideyFunko

Nice to see someone likes him

MaxLee

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).

Terra

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).

Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.

MaxLee

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.

Insightful.. where do you put him in ranking among other skill champs?
Personally, my skill ranking is

1- NickFury
2- Aegon
3- StealthSpidy
4- Blade
5- HitMonkey
6- BlackWidowDO
7- Elsa
8-Falcon
9-KM
10- Gwenpool

Terra

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.
Insightful.. where do you put him in ranking among other skill champs?
Personally, my skill ranking is

1- NickFury
2- Aegon
3- StealthSpidy
4- Blade
5- HitMonkey
6- BlackWidowDO
7- Elsa
8-Falcon
9-KM
10- Gwenpool

Skill rankings? That's tough.
Top 2 spots is varied imo.
#1 Nick Fury
#2 Unramped Aegon
Or
#1 Ramped Aegon
#2 Nick Fury.
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Beyond that imo,
#3 Stealthy
#4 Blade
#5 DDHK
#6 BWDO
#7 Hitmonkey
#8 Elsa
#9 Massacre
#10 KM.

Lvernon15

🤮
But you do you

Etjama

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But you do you

I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.

FluffyPigMonster

Hello all

I’m with @Rookiie on this one. DDHK is getting better and better the more I use him. For example:

Further testing with synergies yields 100% AAR reduction:

Then, throw on top the Namor-like damage counter when striking into an opponent.

Did you know he heals like Namor when he does that? He needs max sig ability to get the most out of it.

Then add all the other mechanics that causes him to bypass stuff.

They made him to dismantle opponents and nodes. He’s a lot better than we thought. Should they buff Kingpin (hmm), Elektra, or Psylocke - the combination will be awesome.

HSS75

Should get a rework

FluffyPigMonster

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.

You gave me some ideas. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks.

Hector_1475

Congratulations on your rankup but I do believe he is massively benefitted by very high signature levels. Mine is still R4 and sig 140 and I will consider maxing him out when he is also max sig. I will evaluate his performance then and see if he actually fills a niche in my roster.

If he is not max sig, he kinda needs his synergy with Electra / Psylocke.

In any case, I hope you really enjoy using him!

Terra

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.
You gave me some ideas. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks.

I just remembered another thing with him. The info may be worthless or it may be not.
His sp1 is entirely safe on block EXCEPT when your opponent is in the corner. Could be useful in some scenarios

FluffyPigMonster

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.
You gave me some ideas. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks.
I just remembered another thing with him. The info may be worthless or it may be not.
His sp1 is entirely safe on block EXCEPT when your opponent is in the corner. Could be useful in some scenarios

How so? I just used him in AW and I had thing on a solo - hit sp1 and thing blocked it and wrecked me

Terra

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.
You gave me some ideas. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks.
I just remembered another thing with him. The info may be worthless or it may be not.
His sp1 is entirely safe on block EXCEPT when your opponent is in the corner. Could be useful in some scenarios
How so? I just used him in AW and I had thing on a solo - hit sp1 and thing blocked it and wrecked me

If used correctly, his sp1 allows pushback just far enough to be able to block the retaliation, maybe even reintercept depending on AI. Mid arena works best for it incase you slip up. I've managed to pull it off several times with safe blocked sp1s

FluffyPigMonster

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.
You gave me some ideas. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks.
I just remembered another thing with him. The info may be worthless or it may be not.
His sp1 is entirely safe on block EXCEPT when your opponent is in the corner. Could be useful in some scenarios
How so? I just used him in AW and I had thing on a solo - hit sp1 and thing blocked it and wrecked me
If used correctly, his sp1 allows pushback just far enough to be able to block the retaliation, maybe even reintercept depending on AI. Mid arena works best for it incase you slip up. I've managed to pull it off several times with safe blocked sp1s

The heavy into an SP2 worked very well. His damage increased significantly and those bleeds scaled. Good one

Terra

Well now that you have already got him to R5 share your thoughts first.. where all of you can use him? which content? which nodes he is good for?

I wanted to use my 2015 Rank 3-4 gem on him and then maybe taking him to R5 when the news came in that he will be getting buffed. Now that he is and many ppl took him to R5 before even the update and then I saw them being disappointed. Maybe you have seen some great usage and utilities which you can highlight

PS: I must say you have some big courage to take him up even before Hyperion, CAPIW, Domino, Sym Supreme, and Blade (though he is old still has usage in some new content from time to time ).
Courage is my middle name.
He has some rotations and flexibility. If you are up against bleed immunes, do
Sp3 and sp1 spam for damage. Weave in heavies once in a while for extra crit damage.
If you're facing non immunes and the fight is short, my ideal rotation is, get to a sp2, Parry, throw heavy and then launch sp2 before second part of heavy hits. His bleed damage is quite something.
In longer fights, throwing a sp3 first is best, since it puts you into a extra damage mode, with a % chance for instant bleed on basics. You want to keep up this mode as much as possible in longer fights. When you have this mode active, cycling Parry > Heavy (1 hit of it, you need to combo into sp2) > sp2 and you will see suprising damage. His sp1 is mainly for increasing crit rate which is somewhat useful but not really needed. It's smooth af to fire off though. He is also immune to regeneration disrupting effects, aside from poison.
You gave me some ideas. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks.
I just remembered another thing with him. The info may be worthless or it may be not.
His sp1 is entirely safe on block EXCEPT when your opponent is in the corner. Could be useful in some scenarios
How so? I just used him in AW and I had thing on a solo - hit sp1 and thing blocked it and wrecked me
If used correctly, his sp1 allows pushback just far enough to be able to block the retaliation, maybe even reintercept depending on AI. Mid arena works best for it incase you slip up. I've managed to pull it off several times with safe blocked sp1s
The heavy into an SP2 worked very well. His damage increased significantly and those bleeds scaled. Good one

Told you it'd work. His bleed damage is quite something.

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Will3808

I’d love to know why you also took Karnak to rank 5

Etjama

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But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.

FluffyPigMonster

🤮
But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.

If the opponent doesn’t evade, how less effective is Falcon? Meaning - is he still very good with non-evading champs?

Terra

I’d love to know why you also took Karnak to rank 5

Cause I enjoy him.

Etjama

🤮
But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.
If the opponent doesn’t evade, how less effective is Falcon? Meaning - is he still very good with non-evading champs?

His damage isn't nearly as good, but he does still counter a lot of mechanics. His problem is that he can only counter those mechanics for parts of the fight. For a lot of the fight, he has to back off and play around the opponent which is very impractical.

Sarvanga1_

🤮
But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.

Falcon has more damage than km whether it's an evade matchup or not.

Etjama

🤮
But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.
Falcon has more damage than km whether it's an evade matchup or not.

No he doesn't. I'm talking awakened KM vs. awakened Falcon. KM has more damage. Plus KM could have half the damage and he'd still be much more useful for many more fights than Falcon.

FluffyPigMonster

I’d love to know why you also took Karnak to rank 5
Cause I enjoy him.

People who view this game as a job will never understand that

Sarvanga1_

🤮
But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.
Falcon has more damage than km whether it's an evade matchup or not.
No he doesn't. I'm talking awakened KM vs. awakened Falcon. KM has more damage. Plus KM could have half the damage and he'd still be much more useful for many more fights than Falcon.

Yes he does. I have both of them awakened. Usefulness is a whole other issue as I don't use both of them don't ask me.

Terra

I’d love to know why you also took Karnak to rank 5
Cause I enjoy him.
People who view this game as a job will never understand that

True words indeed.

Etjama

🤮
But you do you
I'm with him. But also the top 10 lists too. KM at 9 and 10!? Wait! Frickin Massacre, Elsa and Falcon are above KM!? Have you even used Killmonger!? Blade at 4!? DDHK at 5!? And where the hell is Night Thrasher!!!!!???? Killmonger and Night Thrasher both deserve to be at like 5 and 6. I could forgive them being just a little lower, but that's ridiculous.
Have you played the new falcon I have both him and killmonger. Falcon is better for the majority of content and does more damage IMO. He also shuts down so many things.

I have both as well. Falcon's just so freakin impractical because of his long-ass cooldown and his damage is only better in evade matchups. Killmonger is so much more.
Falcon has more damage than km whether it's an evade matchup or not.
No he doesn't. I'm talking awakened KM vs. awakened Falcon. KM has more damage. Plus KM could have half the damage and he'd still be much more useful for many more fights than Falcon.
Yes he does. I have both of them awakened. Usefulness is a whole other issue as I don't use both of them don't ask me.

Then you don't know how to activate KM's extra damage while true strike and reverberation are active. Cause KM has more damage overall in non-evade matchups. And remember that Falcon gains more damage when lock-down is active which is probably the kind of damage you're used to. That's only active for part of the fight.