You could say that Hyperion is actually suicide friendly. You can only spam sp3 and finish the fight with an sp2
Possibly, but his mainstay is his power gain interaction with special spamming, so he loses quite a lot of benefit out of that with recoil at play.
For example, you can't possibly fight 7.1 Gwenperion effectively with suicides.
I mean.... Mags is the best option for Gwenperion though. Why would you bring anyone else? 🤣
I have 118 5-stars and 26 6-stars. I have no idea who this “mags” is that you’re discussing. (Seriously - neither version as a 5 or 6. My second account isn’t far behind and doesn’t have either version as a 5 or 6 either). I’m gonna go cry.
You could say that Hyperion is actually suicide friendly. You can only spam sp3 and finish the fight with an sp2
Possibly, but his mainstay is his power gain interaction with special spamming, so he loses quite a lot of benefit out of that with recoil at play.
For example, you can't possibly fight 7.1 Gwenperion effectively with suicides.
I mean.... Mags is the best option for Gwenperion though. Why would you bring anyone else? 🤣
I have 118 5-stars and 26 6-stars. I have no idea who this “mags” is that you’re discussing. (Seriously - neither version as a 5 or 6. My second account isn’t far behind and doesn’t have either version as a 5 or 6 either). I’m gonna go cry.
I think fury is pretty decent with suicdes. Play him in his first form then slowly kill yourself by freely playing with specials, then you can get a good 4 fights in his real state. For act 6 and 7 where you split the fights between your 5 man team, he usually survives long enough. For longer content or a specialty lane where you only use fury you can turn them off.
For me - Hyperion. Yes, you can play using sp3 only, but 1 - it's boring, and 2 - you lose all his utility. No armor breaks, spa intercept, incinerate, stuns. He does lose a lot when used with suicides Sym supreme same - no sp2 cycles after sp3, which is the most enjoyable part of playing him for me. Probably silver surfer? No double buffs without sp2 Sasquatch, Professor X - no sps spam For me every champ becomes boring at least, as you have to use sp3 mostly. Except Magik, with limbo on sps she's perfect for suicides
For me - Hyperion. Yes, you can play using sp3 only, but 1 - it's boring, and 2 - you lose all his utility. No armor breaks, spa intercept, incinerate, stuns. He does lose a lot when used with suicides Sym supreme same - no sp2 cycles after sp3, which is the most enjoyable part of playing him for me. Probably silver surfer? No double buffs without sp2 Sasquatch, Professor X - no sps spam For me every champ becomes boring at least, as you have to use sp3 mostly. Except Magik, with limbo on sps she's perfect for suicides
Sasquatch can regenerate off the sp3 and reduce recoil damage with his rage stacks. He can even reduce liquid courage and double edge with the giant challengers synergy. He is honestly awesome with suicides.
Just a remind All champions are unfriendly with Recoil for SP1 and 2. A player must learn how to play with these masteries, basically by reducing the use of these SP. In one hand the player develops his skills and the strength for the champions, in the other hand he doesn’t take (a lot of) advantage anymore of the SP2 and 1 particularities in the middle of the fight. He also has to choose in the other masteries how to balance as much as possible the inconvenience.
To answer the initial question I would still see this topic in the other/classical way: who has a real advantage (more than simply strike stronger) with them. And all champions whom utility relies (most) on SP1 and 2 are particularly unfriendly. As examples, for opponent power control like Vision and Hawkeye), and Ronan. However some champions can compensate a bit the loss of heath (Recoil and Double Edge). All not double immune champions are unfriendly with this masteries against Void...
Just a remind All champions are unfriendly with Recoil for SP1 and 2. A player must learn how to play with these masteries, basically by reducing the use of these SP. In one hand the player develops his skills and the strength for the champions, in the other hand he doesn’t take (a lot of) advantage anymore of the SP2 and 1 particularities in the middle of the fight. He also has to choose in the other masteries how to balance as much as possible the inconvenience.
To answer the initial question I would still see this topic in the other/classical way: who has a real advantage (more than simply strike stronger) with them. And all champions whom utility relies (most) on SP1 and 2 are particularly unfriendly. As examples, for opponent power control like Vision and Hawkeye), and Ronan. However some champions can compensate a bit the loss of heath (Recoil and Double Edge). All not double immune champions are unfriendly with this masteries against Void...
Ghost with hood Angela Omega can regen 30% health for 5% so stonks Rogue
I don't think Dr Doom is suicide unfriendly. Yeah he has to throw SP1 to control the power but if you're a skilled player with Doom being such a tank, suicide and recoil damage is pretty much the only damage you take + blocked hits but he's got really high block proficiency.
Torch, NF, Void, Doom, Sym Supreme are the big ones for me. I don’t run them because other than OR, Ghost, CG I just don’t find the benefits to outweigh recoil. I have 35 other R5s to use, so OR is my biohazard and Caltrops champ
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Fair Play.
Torch.
Sunspot.
Vision.
Sym supreme same - no sp2 cycles after sp3, which is the most enjoyable part of playing him for me.
Probably silver surfer? No double buffs without sp2
Sasquatch, Professor X - no sps spam
For me every champ becomes boring at least, as you have to use sp3 mostly. Except Magik, with limbo on sps she's perfect for suicides
All champions are unfriendly with Recoil for SP1 and 2.
A player must learn how to play with these masteries, basically by reducing the use of these SP. In one hand the player develops his skills and the strength for the champions, in the other hand he doesn’t take (a lot of) advantage anymore of the SP2 and 1 particularities in the middle of the fight.
He also has to choose in the other masteries how to balance as much as possible the inconvenience.
To answer the initial question
I would still see this topic in the other/classical way: who has a real advantage (more than simply strike stronger) with them.
And all champions whom utility relies (most) on SP1 and 2 are particularly unfriendly. As examples, for opponent power control like Vision and Hawkeye), and Ronan. However some champions can compensate a bit the loss of heath (Recoil and Double Edge).
All not double immune champions are unfriendly with this masteries against Void...
Angela
Omega can regen 30% health for 5% so stonks
Rogue