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They say utility over dmg...

SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
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But Idk what I should believe at this point



My other champs were dead (6.2.4) and all that was left was my kilmonger. I took him in and immediately regretted it. After each of the yellow timer things expired, it only took off like 1%. I was like bruh ig I’ll just go with it like it won’t be that bad right?

Wrong. It took like 20-30 mins idk cuz I lost track. I got clipped a few times but we all know kilmongers utility is great so I could tank them. But 600+ HITS. MY FINGERS ARE DEAD. I’m not so sure I believe in utility>dmg anymore but idk. It was a one shot but now my eyes are fried and my fingers hurt.
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    Kyusushui said:

    Were u playing him correct? I don't play KM, at one point I know people said he had worse damage than cyclops but I thought it was a hoax. With his much everyone hyped him up I thought he'd have at least decent damage?

    Yeah i parried to get reverb, and used true strike at the same time to get the extra dmg. I also built bleeds but sadly it got shrugged. So idk if it was a fair comparison or not but still
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    KyusushuiKyusushui Posts: 145 ★★
    edited January 2021
    HI_guys said:

    Kyusushui said:

    Were u playing him correct? I don't play KM, at one point I know people said he had worse damage than cyclops but I thought it was a hoax. With his much everyone hyped him up I thought he'd have at least decent damage?

    That was seatin having his beef for getting him kicked out of CCP.
    Ok I thought it was a joke, so then was OP playing km wrong or why was the damage so poor
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    edited January 2021
    @the kilmonger lovers
    Wait what’s the panther guys name again?
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    The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Posts: 7,781 ★★★★★
    SaltE_Wenis69 said:

    @the kilmonger lovers
    Wait what’s the panther guys name again?

    @Rockypantherx
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    RockypantherxRockypantherx Posts: 3,900 ★★★★★
    Wait, what’s the fight? If it’s that kingpin he’s a tanky man and will be shrugging your bleeds. And what rank is your killmonger?

    His damage isn’t the best but that must be a R3 or R4 5*. Because I used my 6* R2 in they quest a lot in exploration and no fight even came close to that. Unduped as well
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    Fluffy_pawsFluffy_paws Posts: 2,677 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    Kingpin shrugs bleeds like crazy. I took Archangel against him for around 70% and barely any of my bleeds stuck. Good job on getting him down though.

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    GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Posts: 2,206 ★★★★★
    Nah me and @Rockypantherx like KM. My r5 does very decent damage. The longest fight i ever had with him was LoL spidey but it wasnt even that long
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    Malreck04Malreck04 Posts: 3,323 ★★★★★
    I did this fight with a 6*r1 unduped stealthy, 3-4 revives and about 500 hits in all the attempts combined. In hindsight I should just have quit and built up aegon properly
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    MeebletonMeebleton Posts: 552 ★★★
    That fight takes hundreds of hits with most champs
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    magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    FritoPlay said:

    Yeah KM could use a numbers tweak for attack for sure.

    Idk how they can't just adjust a majority of older champs statistics to be more in line with today. Its simple math.

    It really isn't
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    Will3808Will3808 Posts: 3,536 ★★★★★
    What fight was this?
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    Will3808 said:

    What fight was this?

    I said above it was destructive feedback king pin
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    NigelthornberryNigelthornberry Posts: 458 ★★★
    King pin is guaranteed to shrug all debuffs if he has over 5, this can't be stopped by aar or AA's bleeds so I don't think it was fair
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    Nigelthornberry said:

    King pin is guaranteed to shrug all debuffs if he has over 5, this can't be stopped by aar or AA's bleeds so I don't think it was fair

    Yeah I said that but still I used my venom and got him down to originally like 88% and that took like 30 hits or so
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    Rockypantherx said:

    Wait, what’s the fight? If it’s that kingpin he’s a tanky man and will be shrugging your bleeds. And what rank is your killmonger?

    His damage isn’t the best but that must be a R3 or R4 5*. Because I used my 6* R2 in they quest a lot in exploration and no fight even came close to that. Unduped as well</blockquote

    I used a r3

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    The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Posts: 7,781 ★★★★★
    SaltE_Wenis69 said:

    Rockypantherx said:

    Wait, what’s the fight? If it’s that kingpin he’s a tanky man and will be shrugging your bleeds. And what rank is your killmonger?

    His damage isn’t the best but that must be a R3 or R4 5*. Because I used my 6* R2 in they quest a lot in exploration and no fight even came close to that. Unduped as well

    That explains it.
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    NigelthornberryNigelthornberry Posts: 458 ★★★
    SaltE_Wenis69 said:

    Nigelthornberry said:

    King pin is guaranteed to shrug all debuffs if he has over 5, this can't be stopped by aar or AA's bleeds so I don't think it was fair

    Yeah I said that but still I used my venom and got him down to originally like 88% and that took like 30 hits or so
    Venom's damage isn't reliant on debuffs as much as Km's is and even then venom doesn't always stack 5+ debuffs
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    Nigelthornberry said:

    SaltE_Wenis69 said:

    Nigelthornberry said:

    King pin is guaranteed to shrug all debuffs if he has over 5, this can't be stopped by aar or AA's bleeds so I don't think it was fair

    Yeah I said that but still I used my venom and got him down to originally like 88% and that took like 30 hits or so
    Venom's damage isn't reliant on debuffs as much as Km's is and even then venom doesn't always stack 5+ debuffs
    But kilmonger can’t stack bleeds can he?
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    SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Posts: 1,992 ★★★★
    The_Sentry06 said:

    SaltE_Wenis69 said:

    Rockypantherx said:

    Wait, what’s the fight? If it’s that kingpin he’s a tanky man and will be shrugging your bleeds. And what rank is your killmonger?

    His damage isn’t the best but that must be a R3 or R4 5*. Because I used my 6* R2 in they quest a lot in exploration and no fight even came close to that. Unduped as well

    That explains it.
    Well he was boosted and I didn’t boost my other r4s
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    Fluffy_pawsFluffy_paws Posts: 2,677 ★★★★★
    SaltE_Wenis69 said:

    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot

    That was a 5* r3?? Not surprised it took so many hits then.
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