Aspect of Nightmares needs to be fixed.

Seriously, this node is crappy:

1) it should state "attackers degenerate 50% of their MAX hp", because that's what happens when you face that node
2) the node itself requires you to bring champs with over 50% of their max hp, else they die. That is pretty stupid, a bit like the 5.2.5 Mordo, although not nearly as bad. You shouldn't be forced to bring certainly healed champs, especially when the base revives are 40% of max hp and potions have pretty bad value
3) this one is on me probably, but wasn't the node originally "50% of your CURRENT hp"? I think it used to be that way, correct me if I am wrong.

One way or another, I think this node should be looked on. Your opinion?

Comments

Kerneas

Also I would like to add that I have tested multiple times that the node indeed deals 50% of your max hp.

Notsavage19

I get that it should say "Max", but there are definitely a few counters to this node if you don't feel like healing up such as Regen characters, Ghost w/Hood, Namor, etc.

Crcrcrc

I can confirm.
It really need to be current hp.

Jumptheshark

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.

Crcrcrc

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.

It ends with no bonus health

dot_ditto

I get that it should say "Max", but there are definitely a few counters to this node if you don't feel like healing up such as Regen characters, Ghost w/Hood, Namor, etc.

Agreed .. I actually healed my Ghost up from ~20% to ~70% on that node .. I LOVE that node!!! ROFL

SpideyFunko

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.

wdym free healing you just gain back the health the node made you lose

Notsavage19

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
wdym free healing you just gain back the health the node made you lose

If you have Recovery, you end up with more health.

Nichj99

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It ends with no bonus health

Free healing on corvus or other cheat death champs...

SpideyFunko

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
wdym free healing you just gain back the health the node made you lose
If you have Recovery, you end up with more health.

ah. Don’t have recovery so I wouldn’t know.

JueVioleGrace

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.

It's not free healing since you regen everything that you degenerate back. It other words, no health was lost.

Edit: I'm wrong (kinda)
It seems if you have the recovery mastery, you end up with more health, which makes sense and is something I didn't even think about

Jumptheshark

With recovery mastery I get free healing each time. With namor, ghost, Luke cage, magik, cmm you can get a lot more, up to 50% max health. I love these nodes, they always help me out.

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Jumptheshark

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
wdym free healing you just gain back the health the node made you lose
If you have Recovery, you end up with more health.
ah. Don’t have recovery so I wouldn’t know.
Defenitely worth investing in that mastery

It is. And it turns some champs like magik into regen champs. I intentionally take block damage while in limbo so I can get some net healing.

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Kerneas

I understand that people heal on the node, but unless you have Ghost ir regen champ, you must have above 50% hp when you enter. But aside from that: it really should state max hp. And adding the one word would "fix" the node as I suggested in the post.

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Worknprogress

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It ends with no bonus health

It definitely does if you use the right champ. Both CMM and Ghost can basically use that node to get back to full health from 50%

Crcrcrc

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It ends with no bonus health
It definitely does if you use the right champ. Both CMM and Ghost can basically use that node to get back to full health from 50%

I meant for 95% of characters if you don't have recovery

Worknprogress

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It ends with no bonus health
It definitely does if you use the right champ. Both CMM and Ghost can basically use that node to get back to full health from 50%
I meant for 95% of characters if you don't have recovery

So use the other 5%, go in with over 50%, and/or use recovery. This is one of the last nodes that needs any adjustment

Crcrcrc

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It ends with no bonus health
It definitely does if you use the right champ. Both CMM and Ghost can basically use that node to get back to full health from 50%
I meant for 95% of characters if you don't have recovery
So use the other 5%, go in with over 50%, and/or use recovery. This is one of the last nodes that needs any adjustment

I'm not saying it needs adjustment, I'm saying it's not the huge benefit you make it out to be. I don't use corvus on long fights, I don't like ghost, and I don't have cmm. So I need a champ above 50% health.

SkyLord7000

Any above 50% health character except DDHK should be unaffected or even positively affected by the node. The should add a word to the description but it’s never bothered me before.

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tidusx2jr

This is like the easiest node.. but also, why wouldn't you have a champ with over 50%hp by the time you reach this fight? Lol

JueVioleGrace

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It's not free healing since you regen everything that you degenerate back. It other words, no health was lost.

Edit: I'm wrong (kinda)
It seems if you have the recovery mastery, you end up with more health, which makes sense and is something I didn't even think about
If you have a champ that cannot die, such as corvus, and he is currently below 50% max health, he will still gain 50% health once the timer expires.

Yeah there's that as well.

Certainly there are champions that can get around it and take advantage. My comment was under the assumption that the champion starts with an x amount of health that's above 50%, with no other factors at play.

Thicco_Mode

No. It’s great as is, and I use it for free healing. Your change would make it worse.
It ends with no bonus health

recovery mastery

Thicco_Mode

They have to clear up a bunch of node description to be Accurate. Didnt they only recently fix the description of Arc overload. That node has been there for ages

yeah a lot of old nodes need to be updated. they did a good job with the enhanced special and energize nodes

Etjama

The one that heals my Corvus to 50% and my CMM an extra 50% in Incursions? I'll take it as is, thanks. 😂

All it requires is that you have a single champ above 50% health and honestly, you're not ready for Legendary difficulty if you can't meet that requirement in this quest. I'm s one of the easiest side quests we've had in a long time.