A Question to all the Quake players, from a newbie.

The_beast123

How far does Quake's Concussion reduce Ability accuracy. It says 100% in her stats. Is this 100% effective enough to reduces Ability Accuracy of the basic attacks?

Kevo9513

Yes

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The_beast123

Thanks for the input guys, from your confirmation, I think there is either something wrong with the way how things go when we fight Stryfe, or the way I have understood it. His mediums, heavies and Sp2 cannot be evaded, the psionic blasts I hope. If Quake's Concussion was 100% effective, and if it does reduce the Accuracy of Basic attacks too, shouldn't She evade Stryfe no matter what?

Sarvanga1_

The_beast123 said:

Thanks for the input guys, from your confirmation, I think there is either something wrong with the way how things go when we fight Stryfe, or the way I have understood it. His mediums, heavies and Sp2 cannot be evaded, the psionic blasts I hope. If Quake's Concussion was 100% effective, and if it does reduce the Accuracy of Basic attacks too, shouldn't She evade Stryfe no matter what?

Stryfe is a hard counter for quake on defense. You shouldn't be quaking him.
I reverse quaked him a little bit but that's also not reliable.

The_beast123

@Sarvanga1_ , how do you reverse Quake? Tell my exactly why is it hard? So is my perception wrong? I'm totally confused guys!!

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Sarvanga1_

The_beast123 said:

@Sarvanga1_ , how do you reverse Quake? Tell my exactly why is it hard? So is my perception wrong? I'm totally confused guys!!

Reverse quake is a technique when you dex first dash attack and then hold heavy.
It is a little more tricky to do than normal quaking. It helps to counter imiw.

The_beast123

Aren't immunities, inbuilt, and don't they make a difference with the basic attacks?

YoMoves

The_beast123 said:

Aren't immunities, inbuilt, and don't they make a difference with the basic attacks?

Okay, so I'll clear this up.

It's not 'Stryfe's attacks have a 100% chance to be Psionic'.

It's 'Stryfe's attacks are Psionic'. That means they are an inherent part of his kit, completely independent from Ability Accuracy Reduction. A more apt example would be like Yondu's Yaka Arrow basic hits. No amount of Neurotoxins will change the fact that they are projectiles.

Dragfire1760

The_beast123 said:

Aren't immunities, inbuilt, and don't they make a difference with the basic attacks?

Yeah that is something similar with quake, think about it like this, if you're a human and cannot see psychic or psyonic attacks, you wouldn't really be able to dodge them since, well, you can't see them. In this game, if a champion has an ability like "cannot be", then that is not affected by AAR.

The_beast123

So she can impact on basic attacks, apart from the ones that are like "cannot be". Is that right? @Dragfire1760 , @YoMoves ??

Dragfire1760

The_beast123 said:

So she can impact on basic attacks, apart from the ones that are like "cannot be". Is that right? @Dragfire1760 , @YoMoves ??

Pretty much, yeah. Abilities like that, vigilance, Coldsnap, true strike, etc are also abilities that stop her from evading. Main rule of thumb with quake is that she can't affect other champions evade counter ability accuracy through her concussion. The concussion only works for abilities that count as offensive ability accuracy, and defensive ability accuracy. Evade counters don't come under either of them.
Edit: small error, thanks SpideyFunko

SpideyFunko

Dragfire1760 said:

The_beast123 said:

So she can impact on basic attacks, apart from the ones that are like "cannot be". Is that right? @Dragfire1760 , @YoMoves ??

Pretty much, yeah. Abilities like that, vigilance, Coldsnap, true strike, etc are also abilities that stop her from evading. Main rule of thumb with quake is that she can't affect other champions evade ability accuracy through her concussion. The concussion only works for abilities that count as offensive ability accuracy, and defensive ability accuracy. Evade counters don't come under either of them.

but I mean why would evade be a problem with quake if you’re never gonna hit them

Dragfire1760

SpideyFunko said:

Dragfire1760 said:

The_beast123 said:

So she can impact on basic attacks, apart from the ones that are like "cannot be". Is that right? @Dragfire1760 , @YoMoves ??

Pretty much, yeah. Abilities like that, vigilance, Coldsnap, true strike, etc are also abilities that stop her from evading. Main rule of thumb with quake is that she can't affect other champions evade ability accuracy through her concussion. The concussion only works for abilities that count as offensive ability accuracy, and defensive ability accuracy. Evade counters don't come under either of them.

but I mean why would evade be a problem with quake if you’re never gonna hit them

I made a small mistake while typing, I meant evade counter ability accuracy*