How many people saying she's overrated actually use her?
I have a 6* and a R4 awakened. She's fun, I use her quite a bit because of that. But I'm never taking her to R2 or R5 cause she would do absolutely nothing for my account.
She would man, she really would. You have to give her a chance. She grows on you, a lot like silver surfer grew on everyone or how Dr Voodoo did
How many people saying she's overrated actually use her?
I have a 6* and a R4 awakened. She's fun, I use her quite a bit because of that. But I'm never taking her to R2 or R5 cause she would do absolutely nothing for my account.
She would man, she really would. You have to give her a chance. She grows on you, a lot like silver surfer grew on everyone or how Dr Voodoo did
I've given her a chance. And as I've said I use her a lot cause she's fun. But I have champs that do what she does and more but so much better. Ranking her up any more wouldn't benefit me.
Spot on, Elsa doesn't even make top 10. And with the Mole Man and Kingpin buffs right around the corner, I have a feeling she's going to be pushed back even further back in the skill class. Elsa is a mediocre, mid-tier skill champion.
How is kimonger, ronin, and Night trasher better than elsa. Give me a reason not just a "Shes bad cuz I said so"
Killmonger's got way more utility and comparable damage at max sig. Ronin's got better damage and equal utility. Night Thrasher's got a way better evade counter, much more utility, and comparable damage at max sig.
kilmonger has the utility but bad dmg writhout synergys and HIGH SIG, Night thrasher only has evade on dash attacks and he needs HIGH SIG for good dmg, and ronin? bruh just why. Elsa has a super easy evade counter and with a couple of busted thingys her dmg is amazing even without awakened abilitys and with max sig she is even better
Ægon needs high sig for good damage, is Elsa better?
bruh use your brain. Not **** Aegons way better at high sig but who would actually use sig stones on kilmonger and night thrasher before Aegon. Plus even after Aegons already max sig why would you use sigs on ok champs
ok champs? You mean like Elsa?
nope if you knew how to read you would know that I am referring to kilmonger and night thrasher
Yo, plz tell me what specific characteristics of elsa are better than NT and killmonger
Spot on, Elsa doesn't even make top 10. And with the Mole Man and Kingpin buffs right around the corner, I have a feeling she's going to be pushed back even further back in the skill class. Elsa is a mediocre, mid-tier skill champion.
How is kimonger, ronin, and Night trasher better than elsa. Give me a reason not just a "Shes bad cuz I said so"
Killmonger's got way more utility and comparable damage at max sig. Ronin's got better damage and equal utility. Night Thrasher's got a way better evade counter, much more utility, and comparable damage at max sig.
kilmonger has the utility but bad dmg writhout synergys and HIGH SIG, Night thrasher only has evade on dash attacks and he needs HIGH SIG for good dmg, and ronin? bruh just why. Elsa has a super easy evade counter and with a couple of busted thingys her dmg is amazing even without awakened abilitys and with max sig she is even better
Ægon needs high sig for good damage, is Elsa better?
bruh use your brain. Not **** Aegons way better at high sig but who would actually use sig stones on kilmonger and night thrasher before Aegon. Plus even after Aegons already max sig why would you use sigs on ok champs
ok champs? You mean like Elsa?
nope if you knew how to read you would know that I am referring to kilmonger and night thrasher
Yo, plz tell me what specific characteristics of elsa are better than NT and killmonger
They can't bypass Power Shield.
Oh no! Not...power shield!
the all mighty power shield. Tremble before it’s ability to render Killmonger and Night Thrasher useless and empower Elsa. Forget other nodes, for Power Shield is truly a challenging node that has a place in this argument.
It’s weird that the skill class has a real argument about depth, but it’s also cool.
Elsa has some utility that I really appreciate: access to significant direct damage. Stacking busted debuffs allows you to do a ton of additional direct damage on crits.
I have to disagree about blade being better. On their own, Elsa is a better champ. Blade requires 2 synergies to be his most effective, and those synergy partners aren’t as useful in the current meta (mostly because they’re restricted to 5*).
Cosmic ghost rider is the first #dimensional being released since Morningstar. So many new champs are either bleed immune or punish you for placing bleeds. And his 5* restriction means he misses out on the substantial act 7 bonuses to 6 * champs. He’s a great champ, but he lags in the current meta.
When was she underrated? She’s what she is. A good champ, not OP, not crappy.
Nobody spins a crystal and says “I hope it’s Elsa”. They may get her and say “ok, I like her” but everyone wishes for Fury, Falcon (now), Blade, etc. She’s after them.
Contrary to popular opinion, I actually wanted elsa over Falcon and blade. Those two are very matchup specific champs, and i prefer elsa over them. For me she is definitely equal to if not better than night thrasher, killmonger, gwenpool, bwdo, blade, falcon, etc. Obviously there are better skill champs, but if there is a fight I can bring elsa in, I will bring elsa over any other champ. That is just my opinion tho. That is why I hate threads like these, it's all subjective.
Spot on, Elsa doesn't even make top 10. And with the Mole Man and Kingpin buffs right around the corner, I have a feeling she's going to be pushed back even further back in the skill class. Elsa is a mediocre, mid-tier skill champion.
How is kimonger, ronin, and Night trasher better than elsa. Give me a reason not just a "Shes bad cuz I said so"
Killmonger's got way more utility and comparable damage at max sig. Ronin's got better damage and equal utility. Night Thrasher's got a way better evade counter, much more utility, and comparable damage at max sig.
kilmonger has the utility but bad dmg writhout synergys and HIGH SIG, Night thrasher only has evade on dash attacks and he needs HIGH SIG for good dmg, and ronin? bruh just why. Elsa has a super easy evade counter and with a couple of busted thingys her dmg is amazing even without awakened abilitys and with max sig she is even better
Ægon needs high sig for good damage, is Elsa better?
bruh use your brain. Not **** Aegons way better at high sig but who would actually use sig stones on kilmonger and night thrasher before Aegon. Plus even after Aegons already max sig why would you use sigs on ok champs
ok champs? You mean like Elsa?
nope if you knew how to read you would know that I am referring to kilmonger and night thrasher
Yo, plz tell me what specific characteristics of elsa are better than NT and killmonger
They can't bypass Power Shield.
Who needs to bypass powershield, KM does have bleeds ignoring powershield and NT has access to shock and incinerate Debuffs, also he has access to bleeds with the Guillotine synergy.
She needs some rage-like mechanic new characters have, that will improve her purify. She had good purify when she was released, but KP, Molegod and other new skill gods have way better shrug mechanic
Just wanna put this here. (I still rate her Top 3 Skill IMO)
Nothing special here...
blind hater
Definitely not a bad champion, but lot's of others can do this. You are blinded by an overwhelming amount of love for the champion and encounters with tons of people who hate on this champion. Don't accuse me of something that you have no proof of or try and categorize my opinion.
My Skill R3/R5s. I’d still rank her Top 3, which says a lot.
For AW, I bring her for Path 9 Window Of Opportunity, Regen Mini, Stun Reflect Mini, Brute Force Mini.
For AQ Map 7, Diss Track/Pleasure To Burn, Stun Immunity/Empowered Immunity. I also help out with the Pull Rhino towards the section 2 mini. Explains why I have 2 of her ranked up.
She tends to end up being the sole clearer of the entire lane for both AQ and AW without any problems. What usually requires 2-3 champs to handle, she can take it by herself, which is important since we have limited slots. Just shows how versatile she is.
She might not be the best at everything she does, but she can do ALOT. And it’s exactly that versatility that puts her up there.
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Elsa has some utility that I really appreciate: access to significant direct damage. Stacking busted debuffs allows you to do a ton of additional direct damage on crits.
I have to disagree about blade being better. On their own, Elsa is a better champ. Blade requires 2 synergies to be his most effective, and those synergy partners aren’t as useful in the current meta (mostly because they’re restricted to 5*).
Cosmic ghost rider is the first #dimensional being released since Morningstar. So many new champs are either bleed immune or punish you for placing bleeds. And his 5* restriction means he misses out on the substantial act 7 bonuses to 6 * champs. He’s a great champ, but he lags in the current meta.
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Just wanna put this here. Less than 3 min solo of R3 Mag with 20% class disadvantage. (I still rate her Top 3 Skill IMO)
Nick fury. Aegon. Falcon. Shang chi. Kingpin/moleman
You don't need her for evade countering:
Nick, Falcon, Moleman, Crossbones, Chang Chi and Aegon do that too
You don't need her for shrug off:
Nick, Moleman, Aegon, Chang Chi, Jabari and Kingpin do that too
and all of them are better skill champs (I also think Stealthy is better)
She bring something special to the table with non-contact parries but that is def not enough to justify her in Top 5 objectively.
She feels very fluid to play and it is fun tho.
That’s how I choose who to rank up.
2 Hating Domino feels stale so they now focus on Elsa
Jubilee might be next
It’s a good place to be for the game and wish it could translate to other classes.
Each champ has very clear downsides and upsides.
As an Elsa lover it’s hard to admit she is no longer top 5 , but that really is subjective.
She has her uses for me. She didn’t make my gauntlet team, but did make my 7.2 team. I don’t think any skill did if I’m being honest.
My Skill R3/R5s. I’d still rank her Top 3, which says a lot.
For AW, I bring her for Path 9 Window Of Opportunity, Regen Mini, Stun Reflect Mini, Brute Force Mini.
For AQ Map 7, Diss Track/Pleasure To Burn, Stun Immunity/Empowered Immunity. I also help out with the Pull Rhino towards the section 2 mini. Explains why I have 2 of her ranked up.
She tends to end up being the sole clearer of the entire lane for both AQ and AW without any problems. What usually requires 2-3 champs to handle, she can take it by herself, which is important since we have limited slots. Just shows how versatile she is.
She might not be the best at everything she does, but she can do ALOT. And it’s exactly that versatility that puts her up there.