Proof DDHK needs a Tune up.

Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
edited February 4 in Suggestions and Requests
@kammcoc Created this video to show the true damage potential of each champ. I am so impressed with the amount of effort that went into this video reminds me of Idealist style of videos.

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  • Realm_Of_RahRealm_Of_Rah Posts: 417 ★★★
    edited February 4
    Don't think this video proves he needs a buff - this video isn't really a "true damage potential" for either Kingpin or DD, there's no debuffs for them to take advantage of -- It was an ideal matchup for Falcon and Blade only.

    In a regular match (no evade, no crazy amount of debuffs) his damage would appear to be a lot better than Falcon's . Also worth noting that while Mole Man finished third he sacrificed all his utility to do so. DD still had access to all of his. Additionally as someone pointed out he finished at a full yellow bar which is impossible for Nick and would extend everyone else's time by a lot if they attempted it.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★

    Don't think this video proves he needs a buff - this video isn't really a "true damage potential" for either Kingpin or DD, there's no debuffs for them to take advantage of -- It was an ideal matchup for Falcon and Blade only.

    In a regular match (no evade, no crazy amount of debuffs) his damage would appear to be a lot better than Falcon's . Also worth noting that while Mole Man finished third he sacrificed all his utility to do so. DD still had access to all of his.

    Very good point, but kingpin vs DDHK the most notable difference is the health pool of both champs at the end. I don’t think DDHK is a bad champ by any means , but he needs to be at least usable in AQ. If ronin can do map 7x5 and on day 5 get his opponents down before timer , DDHK should be able to do that as well.

    There is also the chance that we aren’t playing him correctly
  • Realm_Of_RahRealm_Of_Rah Posts: 417 ★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    Don't think this video proves he needs a buff - this video isn't really a "true damage potential" for either Kingpin or DD, there's no debuffs for them to take advantage of -- It was an ideal matchup for Falcon and Blade only.

    In a regular match (no evade, no crazy amount of debuffs) his damage would appear to be a lot better than Falcon's . Also worth noting that while Mole Man finished third he sacrificed all his utility to do so. DD still had access to all of his.

    Very good point, but kingpin vs DDHK the most notable difference is the health pool of both champs at the end. I don’t think DDHK is a bad champ by any means , but he needs to be at least usable in AQ. If ronin can do map 7x5 and on day 5 get his opponents down before timer , DDHK should be able to do that as well.

    There is also the chance that we aren’t playing him correctly
    I find it hard to believe a 5x65 cant finish map 7 fights before the timer expires unless it's something like pleasure to burn. Do you have a video.
  • DylanphileDylanphile Posts: 25
    Also, if he's running the Courage mastery, it further skews the numbers against Daredevil.
  • DshuDshu Posts: 1,422 ★★★★

    Texas_11 said:

    Don't think this video proves he needs a buff - this video isn't really a "true damage potential" for either Kingpin or DD, there's no debuffs for them to take advantage of -- It was an ideal matchup for Falcon and Blade only.

    In a regular match (no evade, no crazy amount of debuffs) his damage would appear to be a lot better than Falcon's . Also worth noting that while Mole Man finished third he sacrificed all his utility to do so. DD still had access to all of his.

    Very good point, but kingpin vs DDHK the most notable difference is the health pool of both champs at the end. I don’t think DDHK is a bad champ by any means , but he needs to be at least usable in AQ. If ronin can do map 7x5 and on day 5 get his opponents down before timer , DDHK should be able to do that as well.

    There is also the chance that we aren’t playing him correctly
    I find it hard to believe a 5x65 cant finish map 7 fights before the timer expires unless it's something like pleasure to burn. Do you have a video.
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  • ChobblyChobbly Posts: 155
    Awesome video OP. Fair play :)

  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    Chobbly said:

    Awesome video OP. Fair play :)

    This was not me it was as kam mcoc - you can find him on Twitter
  • ChobblyChobbly Posts: 155
    Texas_11 said:

    Chobbly said:

    Awesome video OP. Fair play :)

    This was not me it was as kam mcoc - you can find him on Twitter
    No worries. Having access to numbers like this is always useful to validate gut feelings. I remember from Seatin’s video about the DDHK buff that he said the damage was underwhelming.
  • Izze_KingIzze_King Posts: 240
    You never used sp3 with DDHK and that gives him a great ability. It would increase that sp2 damage.
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 4,724 ★★★★★
    Terrific video compilation. As a new owner of a DDHK, I have to say a little damage adjustment would be nice or even a chance to cycle into a phase that have better damage.

    Dr. Zola
  • MegaSkater67MegaSkater67 Posts: 1,290 ★★★
    I love daredevil, the buff was great in my opinion. Missed out on a lot of direct damage there by not throwing the SP3. His basic hits can then gain access to instant bleeds for quite a long time, giving him a significant damage increase. His damage isn’t bad at all, I use my 5/65 all the time, regularly have him in AW at tier 2/3 as well.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★

    I love daredevil, the buff was great in my opinion. Missed out on a lot of direct damage there by not throwing the SP3. His basic hits can then gain access to instant bleeds for quite a long time, giving him a significant damage increase. His damage isn’t bad at all, I use my 5/65 all the time, regularly have him in AW at tier 2/3 as well.

    Would love to see some footage
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    DrZola said:

    Terrific video compilation. As a new owner of a DDHK, I have to say a little damage adjustment would be nice or even a chance to cycle into a phase that have better damage.

    Dr. Zola

    He has 3 series Elsa vs Gwenpool, vs ronin, and some other cool comparisons basically the entire skill class.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    Monke said:

    Texas_11 said:

    DrZola said:

    Terrific video compilation. As a new owner of a DDHK, I have to say a little damage adjustment would be nice or even a chance to cycle into a phase that have better damage.

    Dr. Zola

    He has 3 series Elsa vs Gwenpool, vs ronin, and some other cool comparisons basically the entire skill class.
    The fact Killmonger beat a ton of those baffles me. I honestly thought He'd go last, but weridly has better damage then elsa and BWDo. Crazy as hell
    Yeah I think it took everyone by surprise, his true strike bypass all resistances so good vs red hulk. But even then he is still miles ahead of where I thought he would be .
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 1,998 ★★★★
    Monke said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Monke said:

    Texas_11 said:

    DrZola said:

    Terrific video compilation. As a new owner of a DDHK, I have to say a little damage adjustment would be nice or even a chance to cycle into a phase that have better damage.

    Dr. Zola

    He has 3 series Elsa vs Gwenpool, vs ronin, and some other cool comparisons basically the entire skill class.
    The fact Killmonger beat a ton of those baffles me. I honestly thought He'd go last, but weridly has better damage then elsa and BWDo. Crazy as hell
    Yeah I think it took everyone by surprise, his true strike bypass all resistances so good vs red hulk. But even then he is still miles ahead of where I thought he would be .
    True. Seems like Killmonger is outclassing everyone
    Definitely gives a nice perspective on what he is actually capable of. I love Elsa and she gyspass resistance as well and didn’t really compete at all.

    I don’t think the damage rotations matter as much as the display of practical damage does.
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