Archangel seems different since Apoc entered the game

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing

Etjama

I'd be lying if I said I haven't been getting lucky with AA lately cause I'm barely landing any Nueros, it's kinda crazy. But I'm sure it's just a bad luck streak and not actually a change... I hope.

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Liquidkold

I do not believe that he has been altered. RNG can be bad.

Agent_X_zzz

No been normal for me.

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing

They are, but this isn’t one

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No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one

Examples?

danielmath

mine wasn't changed, sucks they nerfed yours

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?

Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly

I'm not meaning to imply a silent nerf. I just don't know how to account for the bad streak. If it were just a few weeks, I wouldn't have posted anything.

But, as I mentioned, this has been going on for about 5 months and I use him quite often. The only correlation seems to be around the time that Apoc was released.

There are other issues (like CMM's persistent charge missing in pre-fight screen), so I thought this might be one if there were others having problems similar to mine.

danielmath

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly

Oh ya, they made it so aa couldn’t stun someone who was stun immune. Neeeerrrrrrffffff

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly
Oh ya, they made it so aa couldn’t stun someone who was stun immune. Neeeerrrrrrffffff

When they confirmed themselves its working fine, then yeah, I’m gonna say it is

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly

So 2 unintended interactions were fixed? Is that a nerf or a bug fix? AA stunning stun-immunes sounds like a bug to me

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly
So 2 unintended interactions were fixed? Is that a nerf or a bug fix? AA stunning stun-immunes sounds like a bug to me

It sounds like a bug yes, but as I’m saying, kabam themselves literally confirmed it was working fine when people reported it as a bug

Daddrieda

With Drax VS Mordo it was something about Drax’s double medium swords hit was able to “bypass” Mordo’s astral evade (the one that auto evade while stun-punish you when Mordo has been stunned) and kabam said it wasn’t supposed to be like this and proceeded to blame the frame rate was not correct and blamed it to be an bug. They then altered the frame rate screen to kinda tweak/distance/tilt the camera at some angle just so Drax wouldn’t be able to “bypass” Mordo’s astral evade.

With Archangel it was something about interaction that he was able to passive stun the opponent that has been placed in a node that made those opponent stun immune. Which today shows... well they thought Archangel was simple to strong back during his golden days... if we take a look at white magneto where he can do passive stun then it begs the question how kabam is doing..

Daddrieda

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly
So 2 unintended interactions were fixed? Is that a nerf or a bug fix? AA stunning stun-immunes sounds like a bug to me

It raised a question what is stun immune against what type of stun mechanism. Since the node wasn’t always clear what it meant being stun immune against what? Against normal stun or different type of stun.

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Okay, now we're definitely off topic with this passive stun discussion.

Anyone else have any input on Archangel seemingly procing less bleeds on heavy? I'm on Android, so is it possible the issue could be OS dependent?

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Act 7 attack boost from passive fury to simply being there

Another unintended interaction was fixed.

With Drax VS Mordo it was something about Drax’s double medium swords hit was able to “bypass” Mordo’s astral evade (the one that auto evade while stun-punish you when Mordo has been stunned) and kabam said it wasn’t supposed to be like this and proceeded to blame the frame rate was not correct and blamed it to be an bug. They then altered the frame rate screen to kinda tweak/distance/tilt the camera at some angle just so Drax wouldn’t be able to “bypass” Mordo’s astral evade.

With Archangel it was something about interaction that he was able to passive stun the opponent that has been placed in a node that made those opponent stun immune. Which today shows... well they thought Archangel was simple to strong back during his golden days... if we take a look at white magneto where he can do passive stun then it begs the question how kabam is doing..

Speaking of Drax, did you know in the SQ you can parry him normally with the romance synergies with no stun immunity, because his 2 hit medium is fast enough to where it counts as 2 parries. One cancels the shield and one stuns him. All sorts of unintended interactions from his mediums

Jaded

No, no change for me. Silent nerfs are not a thing
They are, but this isn’t one
Examples?
Drax, aa passive stun which was actually confirmed working properly

Was it silent? I’m sure it was in the change logs then we all got upset about it.

Silent = not announced. It was announced but I forget when before the change it was announced.

Dylanphile

Blade used to be able to parry> punish Mordo fairly regularly. Now? Forget about it.

Blade used to be able to parry> punish Mordo fairly regularly. Now? Forget about it.

That's because his ability description specifically says that he's immune to passive AAR. It worked in the past, but it was a bug. Just like the Sabretooth synergy with Black Panther/BPCW/Killmonger (debuffs reduce opponent ability accuracy by 100% for 0.7s), passive AAR does not stop Mordo from evading.

The_Sentry06

AA has been perfectly fine for me. Just today I got some good luck and managed to get 9 neurotoxins on the opponent with Apocalypse.

Onmix

My AA has been working fine.

AA has been perfectly fine for me. Just today I got some good luck and managed to get 9 neurotoxins on the opponent with Apocalypse.

Thanks for your response Sentry. Although, I'm asking about non-horseman AA gameplay, since I am conjecturing that his bleed procs seem less frequent without Apoc.

My AA has been working fine.

Thanks Onmix. It seems I'm one of the few who's been experiencing this. I guess 5 months of terrible luck is possible... exhibit A: me.