CAIW owners, how useful is he and how much do you use him?

Asking because last night I pulled 6* CAIW. I know the dupe makes him much better but I am happy to have one of the puzzle pieces. But like the title states, how useful is he and how viable is he in endgame content?

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Hilldar

Dupe/max sig is best. He’s solid. I honestly don’t use him a ton for endgame stuff outside of specific fights. But you certainly could. It’s a great pull

MrInsanity

I have him around sig 90 or so and he is still really useful. Perfect for endgame content since he has high block proficiency and quickly finishes fights, I used him a lot in Act 6 and Act 7 completion/exploration. He definitely needs his sig to be propelled to the next level, though I would still use him unawakened for most of the fights I put him into.
Also he might get a downgrade based on what type of team you run (for if/when you dupe him in the future) for example if you run all mutants he won't have petrify, weakness, or armor break.

DrZola

Max sig 5* is my go-to for a lot of fights, especially those where I need to counter unstoppable opponents or place a lot of debuffs.

His synergies are excellent and cover so many other useful champs (Torch, CW, Falcon, Longshot, Wolverine to name a few).

He can take a hit, blocks exceptionally well and has potent attack. He’s just a completely well rounded champ who can do a bunch of things very well.

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Menkent

I still use 5/65/200 here and there. I'd probably use him less if I had torch above 4*.

Let's put it this way - I have 6* capIW, a science awakening gem, enough sig stones to take him to about 120, and a science t5cc... and I'm waiting for something better.

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Kill_Grey

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Hammerbro_64

I use him more or less in every quest unless the path doesn’t work for him (invade for example). Because he doesn’t take block damage assuming you know how to parry, he is still extremely viable in endgame content. At max sig I would say he is the best science champ besides stun immune Quake if you can play her.

Max sig he can deal with any debuff including biohazard and handles Mysterios EFs KMs etc. reverses healing with despair and more.

Unduped he still has solid damage, perfect block, a quick heavy with far reach, unstoppable counter, glancing as an unreliable safeguard, -100% AAR on L1 for whatever reason.

Edit: and no buffs so you can get around people like Dormammu (parry all special hits so you don’t have to dex)

Artoria77

I use him all the time. In AQ, AW or when I wanna takcle the lastest content. The utility and damage he brings shouldn't be avoided.

Etjama

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I have a fairly standard view on CAIW. He's a great champ, there's no denying it. But I took him to max sig on my account and just haven't been able to find a use for him on my account personally, though he'd be great for path 9 in war if I took that. I do think Quake, Void, and HT are better. A lot of people just confuse my view on him to be a bad one, it's really not. Just a neutral one.

KDSuperFlash10

I don't use him as much as I used to (r5 sig 200), but he is still a very valuable champion with great utility and damage.

Worknprogress

Have a max sig R3 6*. Use him a ton. One of the more versatile champs in the game. He basically came to every war for me the entirety of the Stubborn tactic run. He's less suited for Protect though.

Mr_Platypus

Use him a ton but a lot of the things I use him for require his sig ability.

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FieryWater

Easily top 3 science champs imo. He needs high sig, but the utility and damage he brings is insane. I R3ed my unduped CAIW despite having a 5/65/200, and I use him very frequently.

The_Sentry06

I have him duped and at decent sig. Use him fairly regularly as an all-rounder. Bring him in my team just for backup or when I'm not sure who to bring for my 5th spot. Really good and tanky

Herohanoi

I have him as 5* SIG 200 and use him every where I can, he has very high block potential, big damage with SK2 and SK3, nice synergies, counters a lot of node, and you just need to bring a Champion with a right class in your team.

odishika123

Ahh to have a 5 star CAIW

One day....

Squirrelguy

Only reason I don’t use him as much is cause of suicides

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MegaSkater67

He’s very good for a lot of things, but I don’t find myself using him all that often. For me, he’s one of those champs that’s really nice to have as a reserve if you ever need him for anything. I don’t use him all that much because I’m not a lover of parry reliant champions, but I do still like him. His utility is incredibly varied with his signature ability and his damage is very solid too. I wrote a guide for him a while ago, I’ll leave it below if you want any more info. Might give you a better idea about where he can be helpful to you and also how his signature ability scales:

A guide to Captain America Infinity War

**Overview:**

If you're looking for damage or utility, Cap can give you the best of both worlds and make it look easy. He excels with a parry reliant playstyle, so he's actually very easy to use. All of the following will be based on an unawakened Cap, I'll come to his signature ability later on and explain why that can be so useful.

To begin with, all of his abilities are passive effects, so you never need to worry about nodes like buffet or nullify abilities. This applies to his kinetic charges and passive fury effects. Cap gains kinetic potential in 3 different ways primarily. When you parry an attack, you will have a 100% chance to gain one kinetic potential, regular blocks will have a 50% chance and being struck by the opponent gives you a 15% chance to gain one charge. These are capped at 5 stacks and are key to utilising Cap effectively. Kinetic potential provides the following benefits and are based on a Rank 5 Level 65 Captain America Infinity war:

\-1150.5 attack

\-700 Physical resistance

\-700 Energy resistance

\-The ability to nullify unstoppable buffs (not passives) when your attacks make contact. This has a 100% chance to trigger. Be aware that this does act as a nullify so it won’t work against champions that are immune to nullify. Thing would be a good example of this.

\-30% Chance for incoming attacks to glance. This applies to blocked hits as well and glancing hits will have -100% offensive ability accuracy. The chance to glance is doubled when facing mystic opponents.

After using a special attack, Cap will lose all of his kinetic potential charges. It’s worth mentioning that the energy resistance he gains can be quite useful against certain types of unavoidable damage such as coldsnap or limbo. Since they both deal direct energy damage this increased resistance will limit how much damage those abilities can do to you. To test this, start a fight with an awakened iceman and watch the damage for a few seconds without blocking or getting hit. Then parry or block some attacks and you should see a clear difference when you become kinetically charged.

**Playstyle:**

Cap is a fantastic character because he flawlessly combines the ability to tank incoming damage and deal a lot of damage in return. The best way to maximise your damage output is to use a parry heavy playstyle. By doing this, you gain 1 more kinetic potential each time you parry and you keep refreshing his passive fury effect which can provide a very significant increase to your base attack. When you parry with cap, you will always take 0 damage thanks to his high block proficiency. The only time this doesn’t apply is when the opponent has block penetration. It doesn’t matter how high their attack rating is, block penetration is the one to watch out for. A reduction in your block proficiency can impact this in a similar way, incinerate debuffs or certain nodes could cause this.

Whenever you use your heavy attack it will activate a passive fury effect for 5 seconds. The strength of this fury will depend on the number of kinetic potential charges active at the time. Each charge will increase your attack by 1150.5 at 5/65. You then receive another increase of 1150.5 because you are considered kinetically charged. This is a total increase of 6903 attack so you’ll be seeing some very impressive damage numbers. The focus then is to build up to SP2, activate your passive fury and then cancel that heavy attack into the special. If this attack is critical you could deal up to 90,000 damage in a single hit without suicide masteries. I’ll go into more detail about that below.

**Special Attacks:**

**SP1-** This attack gives cap a little bit more utility with some decent damage depending on how you use it. It applies 3 stacks of bleed (one for each hit) and reduces the opponent’s defensive ability accuracy by 100% for the duration of this attack, this only applies if you are kinetically charged. You can use this to prevent abilities from triggering, an example could be pushing Magik over a bar of power to prevent limbo from activating. To increase your bleed damage, simply build up your kinetic potential and cancel a heavy attack into it. You can allow the first hit to connect and then throw the special.

**SP2-** This is where the big damage comes from. As I mentioned before you can hit up to 90k damage with this attack by gaining 5 kinetic potential charges and using it with your passive fury effect active. On top of the increased attack from your fury and being kinetically charged, this attack also benefits from an additional 1150.5 attack per charge and an increased stun duration per charge too. So, your base attack when using this can be increased by up to 12,655.5

1150.5x5=5753.5

5753.5+6903=12,655.5

This number excludes the standard base attack listed below his total health.

**SP3-** This attack is also capable of doing some very impressive damage, it can be particularly useful against champions like Mr Sinister as it can’t be critical which in turn, means that he can’t heal from it and undo the damage. Cap gains 2301 attack for up to two different classes on his team when he is kinetically charged, this doesn’t include himself though. That means that he can increase his attack by up to 11,505 when using a SP3. You can expect close to or more than 50k damage in ideal circumstances for this attack.

2301x2=4602

4602+6903=11,505

**Signature ability:**

Cap gains a lot of valuable utility from this and benefits greatly from being at a high signature level. He gains different bonuses by having a variety of class types on his team, my personal favourites are cosmic, mystic and skill:

Mutant- X% chance to gain 1 Kinetic potential after using a special attack

Skill- X% chance to shrug off a debuff when it is gained by consuming one kinetic potential

Science-X% chance to place a weakness debuff on the opponent when using parry

Mystic-X% chance to gain one kinetic potential whenever a buff expires on the opponent or you nullify an unstoppable buff

Cosmic-X% chance to place an armour break debuff on the opponent when using parry

Tech-X% chance to place a petrify debuff on the when using parry, this reduces healing abilities by 25%

Signature level estimates for the value of X above. Level 50 and level 200 are both accurate values taken from in game examples.

\-Level 50 (52% chance)

\-Level 100 (65-70% chance)

\-Level 150(80-90% chance)

\-Level 200 (100% chance)

If you want to reverse healing with cap the trick is to combine despair with petrify and stack as many debuffs as possible. It would be beneficial to bring a science and cosmic along with a tech so that you get 3 debuffs each time you parry.

herm

have him at sig 160 5r5 and I use him literally every day. By far one of my favorite champs in the game

SmallTimeANT

Have a max sig 5/65. Always feature him in my team cause he’s so versatile and really fits with anybody on your team. Maybe the most versatile champ in the game. Great damage and utility and sustainability. Also rebuff immune if you run with a skill champ. Easily the second best science champ.

Polygon

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I have a fairly standard view on CAIW. He's a great champ, there's no denying it. But I took him to max sig on my account and just haven't been able to find a use for him on my account personally, though he'd be great for path 9 in war if I took that. I do think Quake, Void, and HT are better. A lot of people just confuse my view on him to be a bad one, it's really not. Just a neutral one.

Sorry but this is just flat out wrong. If you think void and HT are better than beardo, than you’re doing something wrong. Torch is better for abyss and AW, but I’ve used beardo far more than torch and void combined. Torch feels like he has low bp whereas beardo can enter fights with 5% health and finish the entire quest without losing a single %. Petrify, nullify unstoppable, counter most DOT’s, encroaching stun, 6.3 mysterio’s sp2 power drain and tunnel vision, a lot more i cant think of. One of the best options for destructive feedback, works on nodes where parry heavying is optimal such as do not go gentle. Theres so much more to list. I’ve got a 6* omega awakened with 200 generic sigs but im not using them, waiting to someday pull beardo

Masterpuff

I have a 5/65 Sig 200. Unfortunately, i almost never use him now.

ddom

Biggest issue for a 6 star is getting him to high sig. If you get him there, he is still absolutely brilliant. incredible utility

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Masterpuff

I still use 5/65/200 here and there. I'd probably use him less if I had torch above 4*.

Let's put it this way - I have 6* capIW, a science awakening gem, enough sig stones to take him to about 120, and a science t5cc... and I'm waiting for something better.
The only better science champ is quake. Possibly void but cap is pretty much top 3. Who are you waiting for thats better, lol?

I used Torch by far the most after quake in the past 4 months. Over CAIW, Void, and ibom. This was in act 7/abyss explo/AW.

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