Is it just because I've been playing quake for so long or is Ghost just harder to learn

Feels like there's more situations and decision making with ghost

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You have to adapt quite a bit with Ghost while most of Quake's gameplay is just heavy-charging and completely negating the opponent.

Sungj

i think it's two different kinds of difficulty. For ghost there are more situations, node interactions and play styles against certain champs and nodes all of which you have to learn, so overall there's more you have to learn with ghost. That being said even though there is more overall to learn you don't have to learn them to complete mastery to play ghost at a high level.

Quake on the other hand shuts down most nodes and champs just from her playstyle and abilities alone so there isn't as much of a range of skills you have to obtain. But, if you mess up even once with quake that can just mean you eat a combo and die therefore to play Quake at a high level requires far more mastery with certain skills more than anything you have to learn with ghost.

With ghost you can make plenty of mistakes even in end game content and still play her to a victory, quake on the other hand leaves much less room for error

Hammerbro_64

I see ghost as exactly the same as any other champ except you don't block, and you dash back right before L2. Not getting greedy with the phase hits and knowing when to block during specials is really the only learning curve in my experience. It also helps if you are very familiar with how the AI likes to throw specials for ones where the timing is tight (P2099 L1 for instance).

Hoitado

I don’t get why people find Ghost so Hard to play she isn’t even complicated. Parry, Heavy, Dash Back then Special 2. If Awakened just dash back and get hit to gain more power

Gamer

I don’t get why people find Ghost so Hard to play she isn’t even complicated. Parry, Heavy, Dash Back then Special 2. If Awakened just dash back and get hit to gain more power

lol that’s wrong to play parry heavy just to get fury one stun imuns u don’t do that’s.

TrashyPanda

People tend to think the first one they learned was the easiest. It's mostly because all the memories of you sucking has been replaced with memories of playing well.

With Ghost, you learn the timer. With Quake, you learn the last strike. That's the bulk of it, though admittedly an oversimplification.

Sarvanga1_

Ghost has to deal with a variety of matchups and AI differently whereas quake
has to do the same thing in every matchup.

Charlie21540

I still cannot quake. Like in arena I'll pull it off perfectly 50% of the time but never in a quest or boss fight. Ghost is far easier top learn in my opinion.

Lvernon15

I don’t get why people find Ghost so Hard to play she isn’t even complicated. Parry, Heavy, Dash Back then Special 2. If Awakened just dash back and get hit to gain more power

I mean, ghost is pretty easy if you play her incorrectly and opt for an easy playstyle that doesn’t capitalise on her kit properly

Aburaees

I find Quake easier than Ghost, but I’m also better at dexing than I am at intercepting.

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Robbo9

I don’t get why people find Ghost so Hard to play she isn’t even complicated. Parry, Heavy, Dash Back then Special 2. If Awakened just dash back and get hit to gain more power

And how is that working for you against stun/debuff immune, unblockable nodes etc?

Seraphion

Tldr:

Somewhat okay to learn.
Hard to Master.

Maybe I just sucked but I needed around 2-3 weeks to play Ghost somewhat good (not getting touched once with a 4* vs Wintersoldier) a few years ago

I feel like mastering Ghost takes a lot of time.

Doing hard matchups like Warlock, Vision Arkus, Annihilus, Domino or champs that have a 2 hit combo as the 1. medium increase the difficulty quite a bit but are doable when you play well.

Also learning the spacing when and how to punish SPs with your heavies is not the easiest thing.

Don't forget the perfect timing to phase recoil with Hood takes some time too (if you run suicides)

Oh and 1 more thing.

I didn't even know that until 8 months or so:

There is a big difference in speed on how fast you can throw your dashback SP2.
It can be so smooth that it looks like you slide over the ground.

If you manage to do it at max speed the enemy cannot dash away from you.

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Hoitado

In Unblockable just let them hit into Phase because She can intercept like crazy

Etjama

Ghost was harder for me to learn but it still wasn't actually hard. It's just that Quaking came naturally to me but I did have to take a sec to learn Ghost.

That being said, try to learn heavy only and you'll change your mind. I just finally got it down after having Quake for a long time. Comfortable doing it everywhere but in war.

Malreck04

What does playing with quake has to do with playing with ghost? Do you play quake style with every champion? and i really doubt you just quake everything lol.

There have been paths in my act 6 completion where I quaked most of the path just cause I didn't want to risk killing my boss options early on. Outside of act6, I quake everything that the rest of my team can't handle, and save revives/pots

Malreck04

People tend to think the first one they learned was the easiest. It's mostly because all the memories of you sucking has been replaced with memories of playing well.

This is probably the best explanation, which also explains why some people have disagreed(which suggests that they found quake harder than ghost)

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Agent_X_zzz

I don’t get why people find Ghost so Hard to play she isn’t even complicated. Parry, Heavy, Dash Back then Special 2. If Awakened just dash back and get hit to gain more power

Lol

N1nthcloud

I always get ghosts timing wrong.
Im with you i think quake is easier

Aleor

You don't even need to phase everything. You can even parry-heavy-sp2 with her. Or that phase bounce, witch is also pretty simple and kinda similar to intercept series, just moving after phasing a hit.
With quake it is a lot more intense, as you have to evade a lot in a very short window and charge heavy, wich also require some time to start. With ghost you basically swipe left-swipe right, like some tinder. She's a lot more chill in terms of gameplay, just keep it slow