Nick fury doesn’t need the awakening

AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
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Hear me out, I’m not a idiot it’s just my opinion and in my opinion nick doesn’t need the awakening, he’s got a amazing awakening ability don’t get me wrong which is really nice to have, but if he needed it why do people who have him awakened still play him in his first life, he is still a very good champion without his awakening
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  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    SkyLord7000 said:

    Aceymcoc said:

    Hear me out, I’m not a idiot it’s just my opinion and in my opinion nick doesn’t need the awakening, he’s got a amazing awakening ability don’t get me wrong which is really nice to have, but if he needed it why do people who have him awakened still play him in his first life, he is still a very good champion without his awakening

    I play him recklessly in his first life. Don’t have to worry about block damage either. He’s a ton more fun to play awakened. That said anyone who doesn’t think he’s still god tier unawakened is crazy.
    Yes the awakening gives you security but he doesn’t need it to be good what so ever
  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,118 ★★★★
    Aceymcoc said:

    but if he needed it why do people who have him awakened still play him in his first life

    So he can last longer? If I needed him for only one or two fights, I switch to his second life, go unblockable and it's game over.
    The damage increase from the second life fury is really potent and you don't need to throw sp1 to maintain charges anymore.
    He's good unawakened but I don't think I can play an unawakened NF
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    Nocko said:

    I think he's a really and useful champ unawakened
    I'd have no problem ranking him and using him unawakened

    The awakened ability takes him from "x" tier to being one of the best champs in the game
    But he's very useful and good unawakened

    Other than the rank up bit that’s basically what I’m trying to say, he’s good without the awakening but his awakening makes him a lot better, but I’m saying how he’s still good without it
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    _Sham_ said:

    Aceymcoc said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    Aceymcoc said:

    Hear me out, I’m not a idiot it’s just my opinion and in my opinion nick doesn’t need the awakening, he’s got a amazing awakening ability don’t get me wrong which is really nice to have, but if he needed it why do people who have him awakened still play him in his first life, he is still a very good champion without his awakening

    I play him recklessly in his first life. Don’t have to worry about block damage either. He’s a ton more fun to play awakened. That said anyone who doesn’t think he’s still god tier unawakened is crazy.
    Yes the awakening gives you security but he doesn’t need it to be good what so ever
    Lol do you even know what his awaken ability is ? It's not just security, he hit like a damn buldozer in 2nd life and charges don't fall off so you can be unblockable all the time and no evade and miss. Shred off debuffs etc...

    His awaken ability is what make NF a NF otherwise he is like any other normal bleed champ
    Yah Ik what it does but I got a question, why when someone expresses a opinion did u feel the need to say that they don’t know what there talking about, in game that would be a perm ban
  • SwarmOfRavensSwarmOfRavens Member Posts: 1,264 ★★★★★
    Until you need his utility and his tactical charges keep falling off
  • TheHoodedDormammuTheHoodedDormammu Member Posts: 1,448 ★★★
    Nick is insane awakened, he is ok unawakened.
    And yes, he needs his awakened ability
  • ShadowstrikeShadowstrike Member Posts: 3,136 ★★★★★
    The whole point of his awakened ability is to cover your bum.

    People make mistakes. There are always going to be nodes or limited events in which it doesn't matter if you have a 6 star, Rank 2 or even 3, whether or not you run suicides, have the ultimate synergy team, max sig, etc... the great unifier is that MISTAKES WILL HAPPEN and all of a sudden that nice impressive lead you had in the fight flips and suddenly you're on the ropes.. and I don't know about any of you but once in a while when I face an awakened Nick Fury, when I see his life drop down to zero I stopped attacking because I think it's over and I always regret that because then he comes back with life two and just starts wailing on me and even when I had class advantage or higher rank, I kept my eye off the ball and *snap* it's over.
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    _Sham_ said:

    Aceymcoc said:

    _Sham_ said:

    Aceymcoc said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    Aceymcoc said:

    Hear me out, I’m not a idiot it’s just my opinion and in my opinion nick doesn’t need the awakening, he’s got a amazing awakening ability don’t get me wrong which is really nice to have, but if he needed it why do people who have him awakened still play him in his first life, he is still a very good champion without his awakening

    I play him recklessly in his first life. Don’t have to worry about block damage either. He’s a ton more fun to play awakened. That said anyone who doesn’t think he’s still god tier unawakened is crazy.
    Yes the awakening gives you security but he doesn’t need it to be good what so ever
    Lol do you even know what his awaken ability is ? It's not just security, he hit like a damn buldozer in 2nd life and charges don't fall off so you can be unblockable all the time and no evade and miss. Shred off debuffs etc...

    His awaken ability is what make NF a NF otherwise he is like any other normal bleed champ
    Yah Ik what it does but I got a question, why when someone expresses a opinion did u feel the need to say that they don’t know what there talking about, in game that would be a perm ban
    It was not an opinion but false information and i corrected you.
    My opinion isn’t a opinion?
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Full of controversy today are we?

    If u wanna call it that sure, im just saying my opinions though
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Full of controversy today are we?

    If u wanna call it that sure, im just saying my opinions though
    Sungj said:

    Coming from someone who rank 3'd 6* fury unawakened I very much disagree. He's fine unawakened but all I really used him for was cav eq for the skill chapter. I just awakened him last week from the gauntlet nexus and the difference is night and day. His damage is literally close to tripled and all his utility is infinitely more reliable. He's now an mvp for AQ and I can't wait to bring him into AW

    Yes he technically doesn't ''need'' to be awakened to be playable but to be a top champ he does. Unawakened he's probably a 6.5 out of ten, all he really has is decent damage, all his utility is too slow and unreliable. Awakened he's like a 9.5 out of ten, some of the highest damage in the game and insane utility

    That’s fair but I still don’t think he needs his awakened ability, like you said he’s a 6.5 out of ten when unawakened meaning he’s still above average unawakened
  • SungjSungj Member Posts: 2,117 ★★★★★
    Aceymcoc said:



    My opinion isn’t a opinion?

    Nick Fury's awakened ability just being a ''Nice to have'' awakened ability is factually incorrect. Ask anyone who uses him in AW, Abyss, Gauntlet, he's literally more than twice probably three times as effective once awakened
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    Sungj said:

    Aceymcoc said:



    My opinion isn’t a opinion?

    Nick Fury's awakened ability just being a ''Nice to have'' awakened ability is factually incorrect. Ask anyone who uses him in AW, Abyss, Gauntlet, he's literally more than twice probably three times as effective once awakened
    His awakened ability is insanely good I’m not denying that, I’m saying he’s still good without it
  • SungjSungj Member Posts: 2,117 ★★★★★
    Aceymcoc said:



    His awakened ability is insanely good I’m not denying that, I’m saying he’s still good without it

    I think you misunderstand what people mean when they say a champion needs their awakened ability. No champion necessarily needs to be awakened to be useable to some degree or even good. What people mean by a champion's awakened ability being necessary is that it improves them to such a degree that they are significantly less viable without it. Nick fury is significantly less viable in end game content unawakened despite still being decent. 99% of nick fury's being brought into high level alliance wars are awakened, 95% of nick fury's being brought into map 7 AQ are awakened, probably 80% of nick fury being brought into act 6 and act 7 are awakened. If nick fury's awakened ability didn't exist or was removed from the game his usage would decline by such a large margin it is reasonable to categorize his awakened ability as ''necessary''.
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    Sungj said:

    Aceymcoc said:



    His awakened ability is insanely good I’m not denying that, I’m saying he’s still good without it

    I think you misunderstand what people mean when they say a champion needs their awakened ability. No champion necessarily needs to be awakened to be useable to some degree or even good. What people mean by a champion's awakened ability being necessary is that it improves them to such a degree that they are significantly less viable without it. Nick fury is significantly less viable in end game content unawakened despite still being decent. 99% of nick fury's being brought into high level alliance wars are awakened, 95% of nick fury's being brought into map 7 AQ are awakened, probably 80% of nick fury being brought into act 6 and act 7 are awakened. If nick fury's awakened ability didn't exist or was removed from the game his usage would decline by such a large margin it is reasonable to categorize his awakened ability as ''necessary''.
    I understand where ur coming from, and that is a good point but I’m only ever tending to use nick in his first phase because he manages to get the job done in it, mine is awakened but I find myself rarely ever using the second phase that’s why I think he’s good without the awakening
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    I see you’ve needed to find other things to occupy your time since you got banned from the game (even though you made an alt to get around that but)

    Not really I’m on here just to express my opinions, also I’ve been doing other stuff irl since that
  • PuttPuttPuttPutt Member Posts: 243 ★★★
    Dude you’ve been here for 3 minutes and already have more discussions than me.
  • AceymcocAceymcoc Member Posts: 195 ★★
    PuttPutt said:

    Dude you’ve been here for 3 minutes and already have more discussions than me.

    2 hours 3 minutes same time frame right, also I’ve only made 5 discussions in total of my time of my account
  • Negative_100Negative_100 Member Posts: 1,650 ★★★★
    Stop spamming dude
  • SungjSungj Member Posts: 2,117 ★★★★★
    Aceymcoc said:



    I understand where ur coming from, and that is a good point but I’m only ever tending to use nick in his first phase because he manages to get the job done in it, mine is awakened but I find myself rarely ever using the second phase that’s why I think he’s good without the awakening

    If you only ever use his first phase then you aren't using him in fights where fury excels. Good luck trying to use fury unawakened in say the gauntlet against an evade champion , or Plat+ aw against a spiderham mini.

    You're missing the actual point, no one is arguing against you that fury is good unawakened just that he's so much better with his awakened ability his viability in end game content is significantly reduced without it
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,366 ★★★★★
    Without dup i wouldnt even use as theres better damage and safe characters his sig is what makes him safe to play since double life and being able to save his tactical charges when duped since has a perm fury every fight, seems u just havent played a dup nick to see the difference as u might think hes good unduped but wait till u screw up and die and think damn wish i had the sig to save me
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