Iceman or Archangel
Kumbie
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I have both iceman and archangel at r4/40 unduped. I have 1 generic awk gem and 3 t4cc mutant. Who do i dupe and R5.
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And that's coming from someone who has AA at 5/50. Mine is duped and am frequently fighting against immune opponents that really handcuff AA's damage capabilities.
This is true. I personally would still awaken AA but take up iceman as he probably benefits more being r5. AA has godtier damage output even at 4/40 I do steady WS kills around 170 hits.
AA iceman doesn’t need to be duped to be good
He does need to be duped to be god-tier attack damage because the neuro includes defense ability reduction. But like said above, that damage is tied to the AI's ability to bleed and be poisoned. It's like taking Thor up against stun immune. Without the debuffs, their attacks are middle of the pack.
Bro he said iceman doesn't need it lol. He's agreeing with AA.
Iceman ftw.
Until you actually spend a while playing him you really dont see how good he is. Coldsnap (obvs) armour so l3s just tickle, stops evade for first 12 seconds and then L1 will do that again for you. His L2 if it crits can do 30K+ damage easy, bleed opponents are like fighting babies now, same with incinerate and posion, frostbite (think thats what its called) is easy to apply to your enemy and just melts them non-stop, plus there is no champ immune to this in the game currently
All in all, probably the best champ in the game. And mine is only 60 sig!!
Arch angel, you mostly just want the 1 sig for iceman to turn off evade, yes the damage is nice, but it's mostly for evade. AA needs all the sigs he can get, he can completely end a magik better than anyone else in the game, his neurotoxin damage is off the charts. I'm honestly surprised kabam let's him do all that damage... and then per neurotoxin it's like let's say, 35% ability accuracy reduction, that debuff can stop everything, let's say your facing magik you can stop her from not only getting limbo when she gains a bar of power, but also when she actives her special. AA is truly a god tier champ in here, his only weakness is bleed immunity because he can still do pretty nice bleed damage if you can't neurotoxin.
With iceman there's a workaround for his lack of awakening. There is no work around for sheer god tier like strength.
Now the argument is AA better than IceMan is irrelevant here.
For the record: I have a 5/5 Iceman and often against a Spidey evader they will evade the L1 blast so it can be a bit more difficult to disable that evade using L1 than some of these posts would lead you to believe. SIg also enables his Ice armor immediately at the start. That said, he really is pretty awesome without it anyways.
AA I got recently and am still leveling up, but with his current damaging abilities being as good as they are and these comments mentioning a significant improvement, I'd be tempted to use it on his for some serious opponent damage.
AA has more issues then just bleed/poison immunes. If you have DW maxed and other bleeders that benefit from that then I guess you can argue AA is the better option but otherwise Iceman for a number of reasons listed throughout this topic.