Throne Breaker opinions on SOP?

Hey, so I’ve seen a lot of differing views and thought it might be helpful for Kabam when collating information for future “pain” for endgame players’ interests and needs.

Comments

Rohit_316

People think that becoming TB means they want more difficult content lol , to some extent it is true but major part of the community would not demand a difficulty like pre nerf Champion boss (We all how many people actually quit the game because of him)

That being said , i think the rewards are really good and help most to become TB once SOP ends and i am totally fine with the difficulty.

Lvernon15

It doesn’t live up to what it was advertised as, it was made out as this super difficult piece of content for the best of the best players, but instead it’s just been a walk in the park if you have a good option

BitterSteel

The issue with polls like this is people vote regardless of whether they're thronebreaker or not. I wonder how many people responding to this poll will actually be thronebreaker. First profile I randomly checked who had voted I saw said their prestige was 7000 in a post a few months ago.

It really throws doubt on conclusions that could be drawn from the poll, as non-TB players are more likely to think it's hard

Hammerbro_64

It is challenging to me but nothing crazy. I haven’t been able to do some itemless but the usage is worth what the rewards will be at the end.

BeroMan

I have not thought about it.

odishika123

Currently Cav
Done all fights
It can get me TB so I ain't complaining

odishika123

Oof
Meant to click the 5th option

H3t3r

Its pretty easy. Did I use the occasional revives yes but thats just because I couldn't be bothered to restart. But since the rewards are so good I honestly don't care. Easy rewards easy life.

xNig

I’d prefer content that makes me go “urgh”…

SoP didn’t do that. It’s good rewards for almost no effort.

I think the main issue is the way the quest was designed. 1 fight, 1 champ. So you’re able to use the most optimal counter you have for him.

Whereas if it were a 5 fight quest that lasts 5 weeks, with 3 champ slots available only, you’ll be forced to bring suboptimal counters for 2-3 fights because they can handle more opponents, which makes the quest more challenging.

IKON

I fully expected to have to drop some revives in this event weekly.

Instead it's turned into "how many tries do I need to get the solo" self competition. I'm not looking for content like that.

BitterSteel

The issue with polls like this is people vote regardless of whether they're thronebreaker or not. I wonder how many people responding to this poll will actually be thronebreaker. First profile I randomly checked who had voted I saw said their prestige was 7000 in a post a few months ago.

It really throws doubt on conclusions that could be drawn from the poll, as non-TB players are more likely to think it's hard

…. And then

@odishika123 please don’t take this in a way that I’m having a go, but this is exactly what I mean. People vote without being the target of polls, and you meant to vote for the perfect difficulty. So it gives the impression that TBs want this difficulty, when Cavs and below are voting and changing that perception.

xNig

The Maze was the best example for such a challenge, at the time it was released.

You had 5 slots but 8 fights (iirc) to get through, so you had to mix and match the 2 sections then decide on who you could bring to handle all of the defenders from your roster, then play really well because those fights were very punishing.

I fully explored it with some item usage but it was so painful and fun doing so.

BuggyDClown

It's okay . Not too easy not too hard.

odishika123

The issue with polls like this is people vote regardless of whether they're thronebreaker or not. I wonder how many people responding to this poll will actually be thronebreaker. First profile I randomly checked who had voted I saw said their prestige was 7000 in a post a few months ago.

It really throws doubt on conclusions that could be drawn from the poll, as non-TB players are more likely to think it's hard

…. And then

@odishika123 please don’t take this in a way that I’m having a go, but this is exactly what I mean. People vote without being the target of polls, and you meant to vote for the perfect difficulty. So it gives the impression that TBs want this difficulty, when Cavs and below are voting and changing that perception.

BitterSteel

The issue with polls like this is people vote regardless of whether they're thronebreaker or not. I wonder how many people responding to this poll will actually be thronebreaker. First profile I randomly checked who had voted I saw said their prestige was 7000 in a post a few months ago.

It really throws doubt on conclusions that could be drawn from the poll, as non-TB players are more likely to think it's hard

…. And then

@odishika123 please don’t take this in a way that I’m having a go, but this is exactly what I mean. People vote without being the target of polls, and you meant to vote for the perfect difficulty. So it gives the impression that TBs want this difficulty, when Cavs and below are voting and changing that perception.

No worries mate lol, just trying to make sure things are representative and feedback is clear.

Kill_Grey

Piece of cake for anyone who's gone to the darkest depths of act 6.

Snakep

I don’t mind the level of difficulty, just feel that it was advertised to be much harder than it is. I didn’t original expect to finish all the milestones, now I fully expect to.

Geralt_123

Can't say about easy aspect!
Sure it is not like what was advertised and I kept myself away by just reading the announcement, that this content is not for me.
Now sitting at 15 points and will try to go as high as possible.
Till now, I have spent 7 revives (3 alone on Rogue),1 on Mysterio,1 on Symbioid(during shield objective) and 2 on Darkhawk while using Warlock.
The great part about this event that you can try as many times as possible and this game is all about practice and understanding of the mechanics.
If I calculate right,I did more than 30 attempts average on per fight.
I am saying average as with some champs objective, it was really easy and with some champs, it took me more than 40 attempts, on champs like Rogue,Darkhawk(using Warlock) and Dr. Voodoo against Symbioid.

If we get No Retreat Champion or Grandmaster unlimited practice(I love this thing about SOP),these fights will be easy too.
Still! this is my perspective currently on my personal game progression(working on 7.2 exploration). Can't say it will change in future or not!
My experience below on each fight:-
1. Rogue - Taught me to use She-Hulk.This fight took too many attempts.

2. Sinister - Was parrying projectiles earlier but was fun fight using G299(still restarted many times).I guess many people played it without turning off dex and not using shock immune champ.This was really tricky fight.

3. Mysterio - I was lucky enough to have Ibom,Did it after many tries, but one tip was helpful from forum that we can hit him in his reflection phase due to 90 percent damage reduction.

4. Darkhawk - Earlier I had used dex parry method few times but this was great experience using Warlock.

5. Venom - Straight fight as I have good experience against Venom.
Soloed him each time after couple tries using G299,Venom and Stealthy.

6. Symbioid - Used Ronan cheese for metal objective,Kingpin(my favourite skill champ for XL and Villain) and....
Shield tag objective was annoying as I had Nick and Voodoo were only options and both were on low rank.Took Voodoo to rank 5 and constantly used Sp2 with odd combo.This took too many attempts to pull off and finally managed to do it using 1 revive(also thanks to Munash solo video).

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Masterpuff

Fights are a snooze fest but rewards are great.

StevieManWonder

It’s a breeze. It was supposed to be a challenge for those who completed everything. It was supposed to be harder than Abyss. It’s not either of those. It’s insanely easy and the only reason why I spend revives on it is when I can’t be bothered to restart because well I have nothing else in the game to use revives on.

Silver_Goose

It’s definitely a tad easy right now but: 1. it is supposed to get more difficult each week, 2. we’ve still got Emma Frost yet to come, and 3. that last week with all the bosses is gonna be REAL REAL hard. And the rewards are awesome.

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BitterSteel

Okay, my two cents is that it’s not what it was hyped up to be, I enjoy a challenge (solo Darkhawk SOP with my Roblin rather than mags etc) I think the objectives were a good idea but… maybe could have been designed to pose more of a challenge, like beat a magneto boss with a metal or something like that. I have done all and enjoyed theory crafting but would enjoy content that can’t be 2* ronan cheesed 😂. That said all the rewards are amazing! Thanks for sharing your thoughts folks.

I'm not bothered about ronan cheese, I don't think it makes stuff too easy because I tend not to use it. If it helps some players get the fight down and get some rewards then that's cool for them. I'd much rather challenge myself and try to figure out a way to do it without ronan. But I suppose if I hit a dead end, it's there as a backup.

Odachi

Events like this are almost essential if you take your time through content but still keep near end-game. I don't always have time to commit to all the content - I still haven't set foot in 7.2 but with 7 6*r3 I've been able to skip out chunks of the game without feeling like I'm falling behind and long may it continue.

Colinwhitworth69

Another endless debate.

Content is too easy for some, perfect for others. Who knew?

Agent_X_zzz

Very disappointed in the difficulty, it was advertised as "for summoners who did abyss on vacation" and hyped for over a year, and then we get this, quite disappointing

H3t3r

The only thing that can really redeem the difficulty is the supposed insane final week. And the objectives along with it.

BitterSteel

Another endless debate.

Content is too easy for some, perfect for others. Who knew?

People want to give feedback on what they enjoy in a game. Who knew?

Ercarret

As a newly-minted TB, this event really hit the sweet spot for me personally. These have been some of the most challenging fights I've ever come across, while perfectly manageable at the same time. I by no means breeze through it like late-TBers seem to do - I usually need a full day or so of retries to either get a solo or use a couple of revives - but it was by no means as bad as I thought it was going to be.

That isn't a negative for me personally since I've been able to beat more bosses and compete for higher milestone rewards than I anticipated, but I fully realize that people who were excited for the challenge that was promised are feeling less-than-happy with the event so far.

As I said in an earlier post, I think the TB title has gotten very crowded in the last year. You have those who got it immediately when the option to r3 6*s initially became available, and you have me who became TB last month, and a lot of people in-between those two extremes. All of these various groups have different needs and I think that even "TB content" needs to accommodate them all to some extent.

However, I do think that the event could have scaled better challenge-wise. There really is no need for someone at my skill level to be able to one-shot fights this far into the event. I'm a good player, but I'm not "100% done with the Abyss" good. I'm nowhere near the skill ceiling of this game and I think this event could have used some extra spice to make it enough of a challenge for those players who are. Hopefully the last few fights ramp things up significantly.