When are you turning focus to r4 6*

Just wondering what people’s progression goals were before turning focus on getting a r4 6*?

How many r3?
Game progression?
Etc.

I hadn’t thought about it, the grind for the resources seemed too big (this coming from a reformed whale, FTP aside from unit card and july4/cyber) and I just wasn’t interested.

But looking at my resources and after sop, I’ll be at 20 r3 champs, which I know isn’t tops but who cares, who is using 20 champs at any one point.

I’m still far away from a r4, so I’ll focus on getting some more r3’s but what’s your line in the sand?

Comments

Gildenlow

I have 15 R3, most of them came from exploring content and aq.

I wish I could R4 my champs as soon as possible but I don't see it happening soon since most of the resources so far are pretty much pay to get.

When we can form those catalyst without breaking our wallets, that's the day for me.

TheBair123

considering i have one r3, it'll be a while

Masterpuff

Im at 16 r3s and i have 1 1/2 of both catalysts. Ill be at about 2 1/3 after SOP and i do the LoL carinas i think, and I will be saving my tech catalysts for a r4.

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Qfury

I've only really just put my full focus in to 6*s.

Currently have 2 R3's

With a skill T5 waiting

Tech & mutant nearly formed

+2 from sop rewards.

Possibly 7 R3s in total soon'ish.

The t4cc drought is real though.

R4s aren't definitely on the cards for me anytime soon.

OGAvenger

I have 21 r3’s and only 1.5 t6b and t3a. Although I don’t have a care in the world for r4’s right now I also will probably hold mystic t5cc until I have two ready to go for Doom. I already have doom, bwcv and Sorc supreme at r3 so don’t really care to use any mystic t5cc on anyone else. Might as well save them to r4 doom

Monk1

I have 18 r3 and 7 t5cc (2.8 unopened in crystals) sat unused, before 2 more from sop.

1 carina challenge to go and then will have 2.25 t6b and over 2 t3a, so getting close

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Jerkobson

ill be at 30 r3s i believe when sop ends, but i dont know what you mean by focus on r4s, its not like anyone is gonna stop ranking champs to r2 and r3

I suppose I could have been more clear.

When are people thinking about focusing resources management from taking champs to r3 to saving t5cc for the r4. Was the crux of my question.

GinjabredMonsta

I still think r4 6* is still too soon, but that may be because I only have 2 or 3 r3

Scopeotoe987

I have 1 r3 at the moment, after SOP I’ll have 3. R4s are next year for me.

SwarmOfRavens

Aside from setting aside 2 t5cc there's not much else I can do to focus on r4s. I'm completing the last couple carina challenges for some r4 materials but it's more dependent on how much more available it's going to be in content

Menkent

Not rushing to burn t5cc on so-so champs so when I get all the t6b and t3a I'll be ready. Maybe black friday deals? I'm thinking doom or warlock unless I pull/dupe something better by then.

Worknprogress

Have 32 R3s. I'm still having fun taking champs to R3 but I'll probably have to start saving t5cc soon

Burrito2525

Depends on if a new progression level is tied to it which I fear it will

Worknprogress

Depends on if a new progression level is tied to it which I fear it will

Of course it will be. Days of content being the sole decider died when they turned story content down from 11 to 6

Mauled

I’ll have 2 T5CC in each class after SoP and t5b is my current bottle neck so I’ll probably be in a position to immediately R4 ghost/aa whenever I form my T6b. I anticipate December and probably earlier for the spenders

Buttehrs

I'll do it when t6b and t3a become more widely available to the masses lol

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DNA3000

Depends on if a new progression level is tied to it which I fear it will
Of course it will be. Days of content being the sole decider died when they turned story content down from 11 to 6

Content being the sole decider of progression died of natural causes due to having fatal genetic defects.

StevieManWonder

I have 19 r3s with one just waiting on the t5b to make it 20. My struggle now is deciding whether or not to pick 2 cosmic t5cc from SoP to save for Surfer when I get the resources to r4 him (which will probably be Cyber Weekend) or to pick two other classes and increase my r3s.
What I think I will likely do is select one cosmic t5cc from the selectors to save for Surfer and one other class (probably Skill) to r3 another champion. Chances are likely that I will be able to form another cosmic t5cc by the time I have the t6b and T3A to r4 Surfer.
After r4ing Surfer, I’ll make the decision from there on whether or not to focus on building my r4 roster or expanding my r3 one.

Worknprogress

Depends on if a new progression level is tied to it which I fear it will
Of course it will be. Days of content being the sole decider died when they turned story content down from 11 to 6
Content being the sole decider of progression died of natural causes due to having fatal genetic defects.

Right, spending the better part of a year nerfing Act 6 was a great use of time. It's not like most players still can't be bothered to actually finish it or anything

DNA3000

Depends on if a new progression level is tied to it which I fear it will
Of course it will be. Days of content being the sole decider died when they turned story content down from 11 to 6
Content being the sole decider of progression died of natural causes due to having fatal genetic defects.
Right, spending the better part of a year nerfing Act 6 was a great use of time. It's not like most players still can't be bothered to actually finish it or anything

That statement contains several assumptions that I believe are incorrect. First of all, there's a difference between calendar time and actual development time. It took something like five months from beginning to end for Kabam to release the boss rush I was involved with designing. It did not take five months of developer time.

Second, the purpose to reducing the difficulty of Act 6 was not just to nerf it specifically, it was to change the way the difficulty was designed in the content, in part to reduce it, but also in part to eliminate a design decision retroactively that was also being used for future content: the overuse of attack (and to a lesser extent health) boosts. Most of the global changes to the content were due to that change. The rest were targeted changes to specific fights that the devs datamined to be especially problematic: in other words they had completion success rates far lower than originally intended. If those changes did not improve those metrics, they would have gone back and changed them again. The fact that they didn't suggests they did in fact change the rate at which players successfully got past those fights. And independent of that, there's very strong anecdotal evidence that players are proceeding through Act 6 at a faster rate than before. Every Thronebreaker has to be able to do that at least once.

But I think you're also missing the point. Was it worth changing Act 6? In my opinion, that question is irrelevant, because I believe Kabam was compelled to do so. Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't player complaints that caused Kabam to do that, and it wasn't even arguments like mine that caused them to suddenly reverse direction. From what I've been told, the decision to change direction for Act 7 and beyond, and to retroactively apply some of that design ethic to Act 6, was something that the devs were themselves struggling with internally, and things like the reaction to OG 7.1 beta and complaints like mine about Act 6 were at best catalysts to push them in a direction they were already heading. And they were heading in that direction because they saw what I saw: if the game didn't change direction, it would soon paint itself into a corner from which it wouldn't be able to get out of. They can see the numbers, the game would not survive if the majority of players get stuck somewhere in Act 6 and never get out, and thus never progress beyond a certain point. You then have two games, a finite Act 1 to Act 6 game where players reach the end, and then get stuck, and then quit, and a tiny group of players that are playing in a slowly shrinking end game no one wants to plow resources to support long term.

Or to put it another way, the devs didn't have to "nerf" Act 6. They could have updated their resumes instead. They chose survival.

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Negative_100

I just want to get thronebreaker. I'm at 6.3 now.

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manveerthereal

Honestly in like a year or 2 I’m FTP so my first r4 will not be as quick as others