Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
Just a quick question Miike, on the design process so we could get an insight into what’s going on.
You say you understand why it’s frustrating, which is great! But when your content designers were making this, were they thinking that this was going to go down super well, or did they kinda know we would find it frustrating?
I only ask to double check whether this is an unexpected blow back, and you only now realise it’s frustrating, or if you designed and released the content thinking yep, this while this won’t go down really well, this is the event we want for these months
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
Can you make it so energy is free in act 6 for this month only? Or reduce the fights to 1 instead of 5?
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
The fact that this is the REVISED version of this objective shows Kabam is way out of touch with the playerbase. I don't even want to think about how ridiculous the original version of this objective would have been.
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
Are u allowed to say what the number of fights were before the change since i really dont wanna do this but if its better than the fights it was after last weeks feedback then ill grind it out sure just be using refills since have eq to actually do which i rather my energy go towards than recomplete content.
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
this is absurd. so basically we are required to do this ridiculous quests in order to unlock next months. You just said its annoying and yet you still aren't going to fix it and require us to do it? Heck, spoil whats coming for us so we can determine if its really worth it. You hype stuff up sometimes and it ends up being NOT WORTH IT!
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
If I do the the easiest difficulty all the way threw on this month, I will be able to compete in October's highest difficulty?
I haven‘t even done Week 1 and I know why I won‘t touch them. I only complete one of the lower Stages (the 4* one for example) to gain access to next months real Side Quest.
For what it's worth, I'm hating this event as well.
That said, this objective is much easier to complete.
There's a path in Act 7.1.1 where you can fight Nebula as the first fight. For anyone with Red Magneto, this fight is a breeze, so you can pop in, kill her, back out, and get one fight done. Rinse, wash, repeat.
The only real problem is that it's 9 energy to get to her, so to do that 50 times is 450 energy.
Hopefully most people are done all the EQ content they care about for the month.
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
Imma do it all....but I am going to b$%&^ and whine the whole time.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
I haven't tested it yet but I assume fights in Act 7 count. Easy path in Act 7 is 6 fights and exit out before you get to boss. It takes 54 energy to the 6th fight. That means 8 runs plus a little more. That's 6 full energy refills and then some.
The kicker is a lot of people have already completed this content and/or still find the content challenging where they don't want to run it again. I mean Act 7 was fun but I can see it won't be easy to do 50 fights if you're Cav or early TB.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
Then people don't *want* the Rewards. 50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Why in the hell would I want to do old content which I explored again?. Last week was bad for the majority of the players, but at least you could do it without any additional cost by doing normal stuff like eq and arena. I don't like going back to act 6 or book 2 just to complete these objectives. I will still do it, but I don't like it. I was actually thinking kabam would ease up on the objectives after last week.
PS: People who want access to next months rewards can still do act 1 and be done with it. But, that still does not excuse asking people who have already explored act 6 to go back and do fights wasting energy.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
Then people don't *want* the Rewards. 50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
It's the same... 50 fights in 7 days is just over 7 per day... the exact same amount as the last side quest we had.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
Then people don't *want* the Rewards. 50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
50 of the same 1 fight in 1 week is of course more monotonous than 7-10 different (sometimes random) for 30 days. Yes, that is very clear.
You can tell that by the mountains of feedback given on this very issue.
You may believe that you’d rather do 50 of the same fight in one week, but you are very much in the minority.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Why in the hell would I want to do old content which I explored again?. Last week was bad for the majority of the players, but at least you could do it without any additional cost by doing normal stuff like eq and arena. I don't like going back to act 6 or book 2 just to complete these objectives. I will still do it, but I don't like it. I was actually thinking kabam would ease up on the objectives after last week.
PS: People who want access to next months rewards can still do act 1 and be done with it. But, that still does not excuse asking people who have already explored act 6 to go back and do fights wasting energy.
Agree i only repeat the quest for 100% only once done i never touch again unless trying stuff out with 6s on how there damage is with the 6 star attack boost node other than that i never touch act content again, now i have to i just wont be enjoying myself much i dont even touch the solo objective crystal of complete a quest in act 6
This is our first month doing this Double Month side quest thing, and we're still learning. I definitely see why this is frustrating though, and even though we tried to lighten the burden by reducing the number of fights from the last week, it might not have been enough.
I can't spoil anything, but I do think that you'll want to complete at least one of these difficulties all the way through, even if it's just the easiest one so you have access to the October Side Event.
I fully appreciate that this is the team’s first month of a double objective month however that does not excuse the monotony of it. This game didn’t come out yesterday…
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
Then people don't *want* the Rewards. 50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
50 of the same 1 fight in 1 week is of course more monotonous than 7-10 different (sometimes random) for 30 days. Yes, that is very clear.
You can tell that by the mountains of feedback given on this very issue.
You may believe that you’d rather do 50 of the same fight in one week, but you are very much in the minority.
6.2.3, left Path. Use Doom on CMM. 6 seconds, maybe 10 at most? If doing that 50 times is too much, then I don't know what else to say. They're not going to come from doing nothing.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
Then people don't *want* the Rewards. 50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
50 of the same 1 fight in 1 week is of course more monotonous than 7-10 different (sometimes random) for 30 days. Yes, that is very clear.
You can tell that by the mountains of feedback given on this very issue.
You may believe that you’d rather do 50 of the same fight in one week, but you are very much in the minority.
6.2.3, left Path. Use Doom on CMM. 6 seconds, maybe 10 at most? If doing that 50 times is too much, then I don't know what else to say. They're not going to come from doing nothing.
Again, the fight time is not the issue. It’s boring. I would rather spend 10 mins a day doing something more interesting than do the same thing 50 times, or 100 times over
I really do my best to see every side of an issue, but this whole slate of objectives is fundamentally bad. It’s far more grindy than even the most repetitive side quests were, and doesn’t have the benefit of worthwhile rewards for each run.
It is unappealing to rerun story content that has already been explored. It is incredibly frustrating to have to finish 100 fights with specials (but watch out for damage-over-time effects from your special getting the kill midway through!). It’s just bad design through and through.
I love this game. I love it when new story content comes out, I loved Summer of Pain and Grandmaster’s Gauntlet and Abyss and Labyrinth and all of the Variants. But these objectives are just flat bad and profoundly unmotivating. They were barely tolerable last month, but they’re atrocious this month.
EDIT: I totally get that the teams are all probably incredibly busy and these objective-based SQs are easier to roll out than full SQs but… two months in a row just feels so bad.
Your forgetting the energy requirements to get this knocked out. It's alot fyi.
Meh. I have EQ done, and Energy Refills. Not a lot for me.
Any path in 6.2 and beyond generally uses a full energy bar. One path is anywhere from 7 to 10 fights. That's a massive amount of energy refills.
2 Paths a day, using Help. Done in 4. You can do it without using Refills. I realize that's with the caveat that you're done EQ, but it's not massive. It was more work for the last one.
You just don’t get it do ya, nobody wants to be forced to redo old content. It’s not a “wow this is super hard” it’s not a “this is too much work”. People don’t want to be forced to do 2 paths a day of content they have already cleared. People want to have fun.
Oh for God sakes. Forced to redo content....for cumulative Rewards. Not for nothing. 6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Yes. People don’t *want* to do that. This is not fun.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
Then people don't *want* the Rewards. 50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
50 of the same 1 fight in 1 week is of course more monotonous than 7-10 different (sometimes random) for 30 days. Yes, that is very clear.
You can tell that by the mountains of feedback given on this very issue.
You may believe that you’d rather do 50 of the same fight in one week, but you are very much in the minority.
I believe the agrees/disagrees on comments in this very thread disagrees with you there champ.
Did you mean to quote me? I’m saying these objectives are worse than a normal event. The sentiment of their thread exactly.
No yea I didn't mean to quote you, I must have missclicked - whoops!
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You say you understand why it’s frustrating, which is great! But when your content designers were making this, were they thinking that this was going to go down super well, or did they kinda know we would find it frustrating?
I only ask to double check whether this is an unexpected blow back, and you only now realise it’s frustrating, or if you designed and released the content thinking yep, this while this won’t go down really well, this is the event we want for these months
Thanks for any answer
Repeat old content!!! Who thinks of this stuff
6.2.3, 3 Energy per Fight. Restart. 150 Energy. Done.
Or any1 else that knows the answer for that
That said, this objective is much easier to complete.
There's a path in Act 7.1.1 where you can fight Nebula as the first fight. For anyone with Red Magneto, this fight is a breeze, so you can pop in, kill her, back out, and get one fight done. Rinse, wash, repeat.
The only real problem is that it's 9 energy to get to her, so to do that 50 times is 450 energy.
Hopefully most people are done all the EQ content they care about for the month.
Your argument for a quest not being too bad is repeating one fight over and over 50 times. Can you honestly say that’s fun?
The kicker is a lot of people have already completed this content and/or still find the content challenging where they don't want to run it again. I mean Act 7 was fun but I can see it won't be easy to do 50 fights if you're Cav or early TB.
Tone deaf yet again.
Easy peazy, wash rinse repeat
50 Fights is less monotonous than 7-10 for 30 days.
PS: People who want access to next months rewards can still do act 1 and be done with it. But, that still does not excuse asking people who have already explored act 6 to go back and do fights wasting energy.
And these are HARDER fights too..
You can tell that by the mountains of feedback given on this very issue.
You may believe that you’d rather do 50 of the same fight in one week, but you are very much in the minority.
It is unappealing to rerun story content that has already been explored. It is incredibly frustrating to have to finish 100 fights with specials (but watch out for damage-over-time effects from your special getting the kill midway through!). It’s just bad design through and through.
I love this game. I love it when new story content comes out, I loved Summer of Pain and Grandmaster’s Gauntlet and Abyss and Labyrinth and all of the Variants. But these objectives are just flat bad and profoundly unmotivating. They were barely tolerable last month, but they’re atrocious this month.
EDIT: I totally get that the teams are all probably incredibly busy and these objective-based SQs are easier to roll out than full SQs but… two months in a row just feels so bad.