Mephisto Bugged Maybe?

FlyGalaxyBomb

While doing arena I stumbled across this bug a few times. At first I thought it was an accident, but it occurred multiple times. Hercules still gains buffs while under Mephisto’s Soul Imprisonment. From my knowledge, his imprisonment is supposed to prevent the opponent from gaining any buffs. Maybe Hercules has something that allows him to bypass Soul Imprisonment but I don’t know. Here is a clip, just press the link.

https://youtu.be/k8AdsUj0YpU

Mephisto’s Soul Imprisonment however did work on other champs (them not gaining any buffs), but not on Hercules.

If y’all could explain it would be amazing.
Thank You!

FlyGalaxyBomb

Geez, why does it look like I recorded on a potato

CoatHang3r

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Geez, why does it look like I recorded on a potato

That’s YouTube taking its time to make the highest resolution available to view. Watch it again.

Also the true sense buff is buggy, it’s a buff but not always a buff so doesn’t interact properly sometimes. Additionally soul imprisonment just reduces the chance to activate buffs so increased chance or AAR immunity etc can allow champions to still proc buffs while under its effects.

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FlyGalaxyBomb

CoatHang3r said:

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Geez, why does it look like I recorded on a potato

That’s YouTube taking its time to make the highest resolution available to view. Watch it again.

Also the true sense buff is buggy, it’s a buff but not always a buff so doesn’t interact properly sometimes. Additionally soul imprisonment just reduces the chance to activate buffs so increased chance or AAR immunity etc can allow champions to still proc buffs while under its effects.

Ohh, I didn’t know they still have a change to gain buffs. During that time tho when he gained the true sense, it was a “buff”. Here’s a SS.

BitterSteel

CoatHang3r said:

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Geez, why does it look like I recorded on a potato

That’s YouTube taking its time to make the highest resolution available to view. Watch it again.

Also the true sense buff is buggy, it’s a buff but not always a buff so doesn’t interact properly sometimes. Additionally soul imprisonment just reduces the chance to activate buffs so increased chance or AAR immunity etc can allow champions to still proc buffs while under its effects.

Tigra still counters force of will though, and her neutralise is similar to the soul imprisonment.

Interestingly the true sense buff for Hercules is also triggering even when neutralised by tigra

CoatHang3r

BitterSteel said:

CoatHang3r said:

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Geez, why does it look like I recorded on a potato

That’s YouTube taking its time to make the highest resolution available to view. Watch it again.

Also the true sense buff is buggy, it’s a buff but not always a buff so doesn’t interact properly sometimes. Additionally soul imprisonment just reduces the chance to activate buffs so increased chance or AAR immunity etc can allow champions to still proc buffs while under its effects.

Tigra still counters force of will though, and her neutralise is similar to the soul imprisonment.

Interestingly the true sense buff for Hercules is also triggering even when neutralised by tigra

In my experience tigra does not counter increased chance or AAR immunity, got any proof?

FlyGalaxyBomb

Was just looking through Mephisto’s ability’s and it does in fact say 100%. Maybe herc has increased AA?

Typhoon

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Was just looking through Mephisto’s ability’s and it does in fact say 100%. Maybe herc has increased AA?

Doesn’t herc reduce offensive AA while under an infuriate debuff

BitterSteel

CoatHang3r said:

BitterSteel said:

CoatHang3r said:

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Geez, why does it look like I recorded on a potato

That’s YouTube taking its time to make the highest resolution available to view. Watch it again.

Also the true sense buff is buggy, it’s a buff but not always a buff so doesn’t interact properly sometimes. Additionally soul imprisonment just reduces the chance to activate buffs so increased chance or AAR immunity etc can allow champions to still proc buffs while under its effects.

Tigra still counters force of will though, and her neutralise is similar to the soul imprisonment.

Interestingly the true sense buff for Hercules is also triggering even when neutralised by tigra

In my experience tigra does not counter increased chance or AAR immunity, got any proof?

Old Man Logan’s ability accuracy cannot be reduced. This is a duel, no extra nodes.



Just knocked him down, he’s about to use his special. Note he has 11 passive bleeds to transfer into buffs once he uses a special




He’s just popped his special, notice the rupture that’s just been applied that wasn’t there in the previous screenshot. That’s the rupture caused by tigra neutralising his buffs. There are no fury buffs triggered. Tigra can counter AAR, and she can also counter increased AA as well.

CoatHang3r

Hmm something might have changed about her since I last experienced this scenario, how about Hulk or Thor with their increased fury chance?

Bendy

Hasnt this been like it for a while with these new buffs not triggering the whole buff counter abilities

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mort_07

Mephisto vs Hercules ,
Mephisto vs Thor,
Mephisto vs Collosus (Team with old man logan)

mephisto can resolve all active buffs. but it doesn't always work.
is supposedly the Aar.

FlyGalaxyBomb

Bendy said:

Hasnt this been like it for a while with these new buffs not triggering the whole buff counter abilities

I think your right, a friend of mine just tested Mephisto vs Red Goblin and Mephisto’s Soul Imprisonment wasn’t able to prevent True Sense from occurring.

BitterSteel

CoatHang3r said:

Hmm something might have changed about her since I last experienced this scenario, how about Hulk or Thor with their increased fury chance?

I went into testing it thinking well of course Tigra will counter increased AA, if she ignores immunity to AAR, then it stands to reason she’ll have ignore increased AA. Why would she play by one set of rules for one of them, and another for the other? Surely they’re the same thing.

But very interestingly, Thor still triggers his fury


Before the parry ends




After the parry ends, the fury buff triggers.

Is it just me that finds it weird she ignores one but not the other?

Gildenlow

It has to be a bug.

I was fighting Dr voodoo and he started the fight with the regen buff, in the past this hs never happened.

CoatHang3r

Gildenlow said:

It has to be a bug.

I was fighting Dr voodoo and he started the fight with the regen buff, in the past this hs never happened.

It has always happened with dr voodoo, the forums have documented this for years. It matters if he is awakened or not though.

GrandOldKai

CoatHang3r said:

Gildenlow said:

It has to be a bug.

I was fighting Dr voodoo and he started the fight with the regen buff, in the past this hs never happened.

It has always happened with dr voodoo, the forums have documented this for years. It matters if he is awakened or not though.

I believe this is because Dr Voodoo's sig pushes his Ability Accuracy to 200%

I don't really know how Mephisto's Soul Imprisonment works, because it has no mention of "ability accuracy"

Assuming it reduces ability accuracy by 100%, 200 - 100 = 100, so...

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FlyGalaxyBomb

@Kabam Porthos @Kabam Zibiit Any clarification on this issue?

rischio

FlyGalaxyBomb said:

Bendy said:

Hasnt this been like it for a while with these new buffs not triggering the whole buff counter abilities

I think your right, a friend of mine just tested Mephisto vs Red Goblin and Mephisto’s Soul Imprisonment wasn’t able to prevent True Sense from occurring.

In this case it might be assassin. Do not forget the AA reduction it causes.

Chikel

BitterSteel said:

CoatHang3r said:

Hmm something might have changed about her since I last experienced this scenario, how about Hulk or Thor with their increased fury chance?

I went into testing it thinking well of course Tigra will counter increased AA, if she ignores immunity to AAR, then it stands to reason she’ll have ignore increased AA. Why would she play by one set of rules for one of them, and another for the other? Surely they’re the same thing.

But very interestingly, Thor still triggers his fury


Before the parry ends




After the parry ends, the fury buff triggers.

Is it just me that finds it weird she ignores one but not the other?

Abilities that reduce a specific effect's chance like amour shattered, slow and neutralize will bypass AAR immunity but not increased AAR. Unstoppable champs on force of will do not proc unstoppable icon unless they have increased ability accuracy. Same applies to armour champs when inflicted with armour shattered. I suspect Apocalypse's abilities work that way as well but I don't know where to test that.