Cosmic Eclipse with Venom as Boss... didn't know I need 3 buffs to hurt him.

Hi all,
seeing I don't wanna wast an access key to a Cosmic Eclipse mission, I need help to understand how can I face Venom with that silly buff about needing 3 buffs to hurt him.

The problem is that I didn't notice he had that when I choose my champions: I just chosen my stronger couple of champions.
And seems I chosen badly.

I have Red Guardian whom CANNOT have buffs (it's in his info, he canno have any...)
And Omega Red.

So I ask, there's any stragegy to make Omega Red have 3 buffs somehow?
Or did I wast an access key?

Comments

Terra

You wasted it unfortunately.
This is why generally node reading is a good idea

Patcha_it

Sincerey...
... stuffs like this, make me wish to throw away this game ...

Seems like I have to take an university course to be able to play a game...

TheBair123

Sincerey...
... stuffs like this, make me wish to throw away this game ...

Seems like I have to take an university course to be able to play a game...

nah man you really just have to read. maybe should've thought and planned a bit before complaining

MrSakuragi

Not a university course, you just need to read.

Patcha_it

You're right, not like an univeristy course, because I'd need to read and study less stuffs into an university course...

Jokes apart, I think that in a time limited and access limited event, there should be nothing which could make you waste your opportunities just because you can do NOTHING because of bad choices.
Even if I read that Venom needed my champion to had 3 buffs before hurting him, actually I wouldn't have any idea who to use.
Probably I'd come here and ask you.

I can undestand it could became HARDER with the wrong choices.
But IMPOSSIBlLE? Really? I think it's just exaggerated.

Demonzfyre

Sincerey...
... stuffs like this, make me wish to throw away this game ...

Seems like I have to take an university course to be able to play a game...

You can preview the quest...look at the nodes...you can even YouTube the fight. This is your fault.

Demonzfyre

You're right, not like an univeristy course, because I'd need to read and study less stuffs into an university course...

Jokes apart, I think that in a time limited and access limited event, there should be nothing which could make you waste your opportunities just because you can do NOTHING because of bad choices.
Even if I read that Venom needed my champion to had 3 buffs before hurting him, actually I wouldn't have any idea who to use.
Probably I'd come here and ask you.

I can undestand it could became HARDER with the wrong choices.
But IMPOSSIBlLE? Really? I think it's just exaggerated.

Reading nodes a fundamentally huge part of what this game is....

Maybe you shouldn't be playing if you don't know who on your roster can produce 3 buffs.

Patcha_it

Just to better explain my point of view with an example: couldn't they make "90%" less damage instead than 100%?
I'd be forced to use lot of resurrect, but at least I had a possibility, not?

While there are champions into the game whom cannot collect 3 buffs, I think there shouldn't be a mission buff which makes enemies IMMORTAL without first collect 3 buffs. Expecially in time limited and access limited missions.

Just always give a possibility. For any small it can even be.

Patcha_it

Maybe you shouldn't be playing if you don't know who on your roster can produce 3 buffs.

What a really bad, bad answer and way to think is this into a gaming community?
My god... terrible!

What about: "Maybe there shouldn't exist any game at all where somebody shouldn't be playing without knowing EVERYTHING about that game"?

That point of view... OMG is so terrible in many ways... it's totally against what a game should ever be.

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Patcha_it

Yes, I messed up. I'm not saying the contrary at all.
But IMHO my punishment should be to make the mission HARDER. Not IMPOSSIBLE.

Searmenis

You messed up. Count your losses and move on. We all been there, it's not embarrassing, we re all friends here. (kinda).

Demonzfyre

Maybe you shouldn't be playing if you don't know who on your roster can produce 3 buffs.
What a really bad, bad answer and way to think is this into a gaming community?
My god... terrible!

What about: "Maybe there shouldn't exist any game at all where somebody shouldn't be playing without knowing EVERYTHING about that game"?

That point of view... OMG is so terrible in many ways... it's totally against what a game should ever be.

How far along are you in the game? Are you through Act 4 and 5? Anything in Act 6 yet?

Buffed Up- the node where you need to have at least 3 buffs to do damage is not a new node. If you're fairly far along in the game, there isn't any reason to be asking which champs to use. I only did the legendary quests so I can't speak for the lower difficulties but they usually don't put buffed up on lesser difficulties because rosters aren't expansive so having a proper counter is hard.

Patcha_it

Boy, again, I'm not arguing about the fact I messed up or not.
I surely and absolutely messed up!
So it's not necessary you keep saying it to me. I know it. I noticed it. I'm not denying it.
My faults are not under discussion: I know I absolutely mistook!

What I'm really talking about, instead, it's the fact that: in my opinion, messing up shouldn't make the mission impossible!
Because it's a limited time and limited access event!
What I lost by mistaking, it's lost forever!

For me, it would be ok to make the mission harder, or even very harder, but still have a possibility to do it.
Like my example with a damage reduction 90% instead of 100%.

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How far along are you in the game? Are you through Act 4 and 5? Anything in Act 6 yet?

Buffed Up- the node where you need to have at least 3 buffs to do damage is not a new node. If you're fairly far along in the game, there isn't any reason to be asking which champs to use. I only did the legendary quests so I can't speak for the lower difficulties but they usually don't put buffed up on lesser difficulties because rosters aren't expansive so having a proper counter is hard.

Act 4, 5, 6 and so on, are not limited time and limited access events.
So you can restart and face them any time. At the max you lost some energy, which you can refill everyday.

Also there you have at least 5 champions into the mission, and not just 2, so maybe one over five of them could be good enough to do the job.

Actually the sole fight I ever remember I ever did against an enemy doable with not less than 3 buffs on me, was a fight where I actually could get those buffs by doing the right moves with any character, because there was another mission buff on that fight granting me those buffs, by fighting the right way.

So, I'm sorry, but I think your example doesn't fit enough.

Azming

U know? There is an option " preview quest" so u can see the quest node and boss node. Do this before u dive in. It helps a lot for events that uses key. Its a good thing kabam implemented this. Its ur own fault in the lack of readings, no offense.

I use Odin and Air walker for this quest.

AverageDesi

OP you're kind of right mayhe. And kabam has changed the design in newer content. Cosmic EQ chapter for instance used to have buffed up. But now it has pumping Iron(I think) which reduces dmaage by 60% instead of 100%

No_oneuk

This guy just keeps digging his own hole deeper.

altavista

Prior to the Preview function implementation (which was only a month ago), OP would be completely right. You'd not know what node is on the Venom boss. You would have to waste an entry and hope that your two man roster is able to counter whatever nodes are on the boss. Sure you could wait for someone on the forums, or on youtube to post what the nodes are before diving in yourself, but that is an outside-the-game level requirement, that reflects poor game design. Not an issue in permanent content, but in content that is time limited/requires entry? That is the main reason arguing for the implementation of a Preview button.

Post Preview function implentation, OP has no excuse for not previewing the nodes first before committing to using an entry.

However, I do still have some sympathy, as the Preview function is very new, so many players are not used to it (ie. It has not yet become a habit to Preview before diving in). I mean, how many of us were so habitual of just clicking the Start fight button instead of activating the Prefight we need, that we wasted a fight? Going forward in time though, next month I'd have no sympathy as using the Preview function should be habitual.

Jeal79

You know... There's also a pop up message warning you that you are committing an access key before you enter.

Ironman3000

Sincerey...
... stuffs like this, make me wish to throw away this game ...

Seems like I have to take an university course to be able to play a game...

They added the preview function. This is user error, not their fault.