Does the Cosmic class have enough to unseat Mutants as the best class?

altavista

For awhile now, Mutants have been the best class, with high powered options and versatile utility. A team consisting of entirely Mutants could take you very far. The addition of Kitty Pryde this year has further contributed to this trend.

This year, we've seen a number of Cosmics added, with the only outright bad one being Super-Skrull. Herc alone seems to be transcendent, but Odin has picked up steam, and the new champions of Knull / Sersi / Ikaris all seem like they have great kits.

Riptide

Your premise is flawed, as (Science, Mystic, Skill, Tech) is the Best Class.

The real question is Groot vs Cyclops?

pseudosane

Who cares about the "best" class?

Unio77

Mutant > Cosmic

As long as Apocalypse and Magneto exists then mutants will continue to dominate all other classes!

Wicket329

When I consider best class, it’s not just a matter of which class has the most good champs. It’s a ratio of Good to Bad. Cosmic is the largest class in the game and while it has a lot of absolute bangers, it also has a ton of garbage. Mutant, on the other hand, has very few truly Bad champs that can’t find any value even with synergies and such.

With Horseman and all synergies and such active, the worst mutant is probably Beast. And even he has a couple decent things he can manage. Cosmic has a lot of garbage to sift through to answer that question.

Moosetiptronic

Mutant > Cosmic

You can build a mutant team to overcome almost any challenge, including class disadvantage and robots, power gain, buffed up, debuffs, shrugs, immunities.

You have to have a high sig Angela for most evil negative class match ups with cosmic that could be created. And while they have the edge in big yellow numbers, Hercules and Heimdall synergy... I'm not sure it overcomes apoc/horsemen, AA, Prof x, two magnetos, cables degen, all the healing.. they have so much depth and also so much more accessible to 99% of the player base to boot.

Chikel

Mutant > Cosmic

The cosmic class is not yet close to challenging the science class talk more of mutants mostly because their utilities are interchangeable while mutant has a lot of unique utilities.
The only truly game changing champions released this year are Hercules and Odin. Sersi has no utility, Ikaris has 2 immunities, can stack incenerates and do big specials, nothing special about that. I don't think you can find up to a dozen incenerate and shock lanes from Act 6 - 7, his incenerates are basically for heal reversal and big specials are common as dirt. His immunities are unique in the game since Super Skrull is the only other champion with that combination but there's no node I can think of where you need that specific combination.

bm3epps

Mutant > Cosmic

Never..Mutant>>>>any other class

ChaosMax1012

Unio77 said:

As long as Apocalypse and Magneto exists then mutants will continue to dominate all other classes!

Medusa and odin exist….

Drake2078

Your premise is flawed, as (Science, Mystic, Skill, Tech) is the Best Class.

Mystic

Polygon

ChaosMax1012 said:

Unio77 said:

As long as Apocalypse and Magneto exists then mutants will continue to dominate all other classes!

Medusa and odin exist….

Those two don’t come anywhere close.

Also, the person you replied to forgot to list Archangel, how would you counter that?

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Mutant > Cosmic

Polygon said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Unio77 said:

As long as Apocalypse and Magneto exists then mutants will continue to dominate all other classes!

Medusa and odin exist….

Those two don’t come anywhere close.

Also, the person you replied to forgot to list Archangel, how would you counter that?

Air-Walker

Priyabrata

Mutant > Cosmic

Drake2078 said:

Mystic

Lmao bruh what it doesn't even have that many good champs

ChaosMax1012

Polygon said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Unio77 said:

As long as Apocalypse and Magneto exists then mutants will continue to dominate all other classes!

Medusa and odin exist….

Those two don’t come anywhere close.

Also, the person you replied to forgot to list Archangel, how would you counter that?

What @ThatGuyYouSaw235 said.

Btw you know I’m messing around right?

ChaosMax1012

Polygon said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Unio77 said:

As long as Apocalypse and Magneto exists then mutants will continue to dominate all other classes!

Medusa and odin exist….

Those two don’t come anywhere close.

Also, the person you replied to forgot to list Archangel, how would you counter that?

Btw the cosmic class is more so a brute force type class rather than DOT. Like how mystic got power control, tech utility, science their debuffs, skill their crits, and mutant a little bit of everything. Muuant is probably the best but I definitely favor cosmic more.

Lpoo

Mutant > Cosmic

Nodes and node interactions are so complex that there can really not be any class>class, especially in late game content

Edit: forgot I voted mutant lol

Diablord

Mutant > Cosmic

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Mutant > Cosmic

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Stellar Pulse

Crys23

I have all of them, mutants and cosmics (except Kitty). Combined, they make up more than half my r3's. But when i go into a quest who do I pick : Ghost.
So this "whats the best class" debate is kinda pointless. Same like "who's best champ" debate. It's not ghost, she has her weaknesses.
Mutants rarely make their way on my quest teams. It's ghost, doom/claire, torch, falcon/shangchi, nf, corvus, warlock..you get the idea.

Diablord

Mutant > Cosmic

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Stellar Pulse

bruh
Red mags if opponent is metal

Tru100

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Stellar Pulse

Cheeky response. But I’d take top mutants doing stellar pulse over top cosmics doing X-gene.

Cosmic and mystic might be similar tier. I’d go Mutant.. Science.. Skill, Mystic, Cosmic… Tech

Chikel

Mutant > Cosmic

Tru100 said:

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Stellar Pulse

Cheeky response. But I’d take top mutants doing stellar pulse over top cosmics doing X-gene.

Cosmic and mystic might be similar tier. I’d go Mutant.. Science.. Skill, Mystic, Cosmic… Tech

Mags against metal , Prof X, ramped up Stryfe, Apoc with Stryfe synergy all have enough damage to make stellar pulse nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

Fluffy_paws

Mutant > Cosmic

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Stellar Pulse

He can't exactly counter it but I always use AA in 50% reductions where no immunity anyway coz his damage is enough even halved.

AverageDesi

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Not a single nide but a fight in act 6.1

Split atom, caustic temper hurt locker, sp2 bias , Doctor strange

Diablord

Mutant > Cosmic

AverageDesi said:

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Not a single nide but a fight in act 6.1

Split atom, caustic temper hurt locker, sp2 bias , Doctor strange

Apoc+Stryfe and that professor x synergy that give 70% poison resistance.

Moosetiptronic

Mutant > Cosmic

AverageDesi said:

Diablord said:

Give me any node and i will name a mutant who can counter it.

Not a single nide but a fight in act 6.1

Split atom, caustic temper hurt locker, sp2 bias , Doctor strange

Would take a long time, but horseman cable can probably do it, especially with white mags poison resist synergy and Prof x cerebro charges built up on the start of the lane, as he shrugs off the poisons after a certain number.

I mean I couldn't do it, but sure swedeah or similar could!