Seeing that a mod has to ask “what exactly are the issues with this fight besides needing a non-merc champ” tells me all I need know about Kabam:
They don’t truly test before new content goes live
They dont want to be bothered with doing testing.
Doing the fight themselves would show them what the problems are but I guess that’s too much to ask. No chance in hell I’m spending any money on a company this incompetent and apathetic.
As has already been pointed out many times, Miike isn't a game developer, he's the forum moderator. It's not his job to test the game or make sure it's working, it's to handle the forums and (I think) the twitter page. In situations like this, him asking what the issue is so he can tell the devs right away is exactly what he should do. Also, yeah, I doubt that this content was really tested with any amount of seriousness, but that's not on Miike
Seeing that a mod has to ask “what exactly are the issues with this fight besides needing a non-merc champ” tells me all I need know about Kabam:
They don’t truly test before new content goes live
They dont want to be bothered with doing testing.
Doing the fight themselves would show them what the problems are but I guess that’s too much to ask. No chance in hell I’m spending any money on a company this incompetent and apathetic.
As has already been pointed out many times, Miike isn't a game developer, he's the forum moderator. It's not his job to test the game or make sure it's working, it's to handle the forums and (I think) the twitter page. In situations like this, him asking what the issue is so he can tell the devs right away is exactly what he should do. Also, yeah, I doubt that this content was really tested with any amount of seriousness, but that's not on Miike
If a mod needs to ask that to bring our feedback back to the devs…. That reflects poorly on them all. If the devs don’t know what the problem is and have to ask mods to ask the players for feedback , wow…. My statements still stands.
If the devs knew what the problem is, do you think they would have released it?
I gave it a run. Felt like VP could get it going, but I could never get the specials timing right to nullify his regen when I needed it. Tried Torch with Wags, and not successful there either.
Only threw a few L1s and heal pots at it, so nothing lost.
But…ally mate went full steam ahead and somehow missed all the notices in game and burned through a decent amount of pots and units before quitting out in frustration and checking chat.
That’s on him obviously, but it also further underscores why communication is important. If you aren’t on forums (as the vast majority of players aren’t) and don’t check YouTubers for every bit of content (impractical, and again most players don’t) you wouldn’t know how bugged the fight is.
So are we not talking about that Deadpool -100% chance to throw specials yet he immediately throws SP3. smh
That is being talked about but at least you can brute force that one. Incidentally, Nebula Sp2 does the job nicely and she can tank his sp3 - depending on the rank. I went in with ~50%, did one sp2 and ate an sp3 before the shock finished him off.
the difference between the two fights is one is an unforeseen interaction with the no specials, and I’m guessing the force of Will node clashing. I mean, both point to a total lack of play testing.
So are we not talking about that Deadpool -100% chance to throw specials yet he immediately throws SP3. smh
Like Cage navigated it for me. Tank a Sp3, eat a Sp3. Then get a little lucky and stun lock to finish off. But that was after 4 champs died to Sp3. I’ve also seen some good use of Heimdall there.
A lesson to take out of this is “Never Rush into new permanent content”. Because chances are there’ll be something wrong with it due to no testing before launch. Leave the bugs for the end game you tube whales to find out. They enjoy this because it grows their channel
While I agree in principle, for endgame players what else is there?
So. Not everyone is on the forums. Why would there not be a disclaimer. To inform not to try venompool boss. Cause you know people are going to think they can just unit through it. That seems very dishonest.
Seeing that a mod has to ask “what exactly are the issues with this fight besides needing a non-merc champ” tells me all I need know about Kabam:
They don’t truly test before new content goes live
They dont want to be bothered with doing testing.
Doing the fight themselves would show them what the problems are but I guess that’s too much to ask. No chance in hell I’m spending any money on a company this incompetent and apathetic.
As has already been pointed out many times, Miike isn't a game developer, he's the forum moderator. It's not his job to test the game or make sure it's working, it's to handle the forums and (I think) the twitter page. In situations like this, him asking what the issue is so he can tell the devs right away is exactly what he should do. Also, yeah, I doubt that this content was really tested with any amount of seriousness, but that's not on Miike
If a mod needs to ask that to bring our feedback back to the devs…. That reflects poorly on them all. If the devs don’t know what the problem is and have to ask mods to ask the players for feedback , wow…. My statements still stands.
It's almost like getting a clear picture of exactly what the issue is, and all the information is extremely helpful to solving any problem, gee gosh golly who'd have thunk
I used symbiote supreme , nullified his regen Applied 19 snacks stacks He still degened only 1% Bugged fight , please reacess.
He takes 95% reduced damage from non-mercenaries, including the degen from the node
Don't think so . If that were the case then apocs regen reversal would not work either
Then think so. The regen reversal isn't based off of the attacker's attack rating, but the defender's health. Apoc could have 0 attack rating, he would still reverse the healing
A lesson to take out of this is “Never Rush into new permanent content”. Because chances are there’ll be something wrong with it due to no testing before launch. Leave the bugs for the end game you tube whales to find out. They enjoy this because it grows their channel
While I agree in principle, for endgame players what else is there?
For end game players who have done it all (not me) the choice is: 1) Do it right away and get frustrated that it is broken, then bored because you have nothing to do. 2) Wait a little for it to get fixed because we know it is broken out the door, then do it without frustration, then boredom with nothing to do.
Either option results in boredom, just one has less/no frustration.
I realize the fight has been done by some in the community, and I welcome any and all tips on how to replicate their success.
But…if this thing is going to be changed, at least a general timeframe for when we can expect it would be appreciated. It isn’t the most important thing, but I’m certain the shards, gems, rankup materials can all be put to good use, especially since Level Up is next event up.
If the decision is no change, I think we would all appreciate a rationale from the team for the design of this fight, especially since it has a narrow set of counters and seems to provide advantage to few if any of the featured attackers.
Hello. It would be great if this is fixed today. So we can enjoy the content this weekend. Users like me who have everything 100% look forward to the new content. It is unfortunate that when that happens, it comes with so many problems. Please give us an update Master Mike 💪🏻. @Kabam Miike
Hello. It would be great if this is fixed today. So we can enjoy the content this weekend. Users like me who have everything 100% look forward to the new content. It is unfortunate that when that happens, it comes with so many problems. Please give us an update Master Mike 💪🏻. @Kabam Miike
Btw... Maybe you can send us some revives ? I use 5 trying to kill that VP with a Mercenary tag champ.
Hello. It would be great if this is fixed today. So we can enjoy the content this weekend. Users like me who have everything 100% look forward to the new content. It is unfortunate that when that happens, it comes with so many problems. Please give us an update Master Mike 💪🏻. @Kabam Miike
Hello. It would be great if this is fixed today. So we can enjoy the content this weekend. Users like me who have everything 100% look forward to the new content. It is unfortunate that when that happens, it comes with so many problems. Please give us an update Master Mike 💪🏻. @Kabam Miike
I’m satisfied I completed it. I used Apoc and 3x Mr F, then VP cleared the lane. I had max despair, 3 pts in Deep Wounds, petrify and pacify and 1 in resonate. The points helps keep the regen down if you lose the petrify like I did Get Apoc to the sp2 disorient ASAP, this can stop the power gain buff off the sp2 if interrupted.
The main Thing I would have changed: Use the petrify from the highest rarity MrF, then the suppression from your lowest rarity. This allows the max petrify in each revive. The third debuff is not as important.
All up, he needs to be nerfed still, take the 1% health regen away and drop the number of debuffs required to 5 in 30 seconds, then he would possibly be about right and may become fun
I’m satisfied I completed it. I used Apoc and 3x Mr F, then VP cleared the lane. I had max despair, 3 pts in Deep Wounds, petrify and pacify and 1 in resonate. The points helps keep the regen down if you lose the petrify like I did Get Apoc to the sp2 disorient ASAP, this can stop the power gain buff off the sp2 if interrupted.
The main Thing I would have changed: Use the petrify from the highest rarity MrF, then the suppression from your lowest rarity. This allows the max petrify in each revive. The third debuff is not as important.
All up, he needs to be nerfed still, take the 1% health regen away and drop the number of debuffs required to 5 in 30 seconds, then he would possibly be about right and may become fun
Mate they just need to test the game more adding content just like that and saying only use “mercs” aint enough
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Also, yeah, I doubt that this content was really tested with any amount of seriousness, but that's not on Miike
Applied 19 snacks stacks
He still degened only 1%
Bugged fight , please reacess.
Only threw a few L1s and heal pots at it, so nothing lost.
But…ally mate went full steam ahead and somehow missed all the notices in game and burned through a decent amount of pots and units before quitting out in frustration and checking chat.
That’s on him obviously, but it also further underscores why communication is important. If you aren’t on forums (as the vast majority of players aren’t) and don’t check YouTubers for every bit of content (impractical, and again most players don’t) you wouldn’t know how bugged the fight is.
Please fix it soon.
Dr. Zola
the difference between the two fights is one is an unforeseen interaction with the no specials, and I’m guessing the force of Will node clashing. I mean, both point to a total lack of play testing.
None of which goes to say it isn’t bugged.
Dr. Zola
1) Do it right away and get frustrated that it is broken, then bored because you have nothing to do.
2) Wait a little for it to get fixed because we know it is broken out the door, then do it without frustration, then boredom with nothing to do.
Either option results in boredom, just one has less/no frustration.
I realize the fight has been done by some in the community, and I welcome any and all tips on how to replicate their success.
But…if this thing is going to be changed, at least a general timeframe for when we can expect it would be appreciated. It isn’t the most important thing, but I’m certain the shards, gems, rankup materials can all be put to good use, especially since Level Up is next event up.
If the decision is no change, I think we would all appreciate a rationale from the team for the design of this fight, especially since it has a narrow set of counters and seems to provide advantage to few if any of the featured attackers.
Dr. Zola
@Kabam Miike
…from what I can tell, it appears the following solutions currently exist for VP (clarification where I’ve made errors/omissions would help):
1) Apoc (w/ MrF prefight + Despair 3/3)
2) Venompool (w/ Wags prefight)
3) Domino w/synergies (and Wags prefight?)
4) Torch (looks like MrF prefight/ synergies + Wags prefight )
I’m sure this is an incomplete list and needs correction. Thoughts?
Dr. Zola
I’m satisfied I completed it. I used Apoc and 3x Mr F, then VP cleared the lane.
I had max despair, 3 pts in Deep Wounds, petrify and pacify and 1 in resonate. The points helps keep the regen down if you lose the petrify like I did
Get Apoc to the sp2 disorient ASAP, this can stop the power gain buff off the sp2 if interrupted.
The main Thing I would have changed:
Use the petrify from the highest rarity MrF, then the suppression from your lowest rarity. This allows the max petrify in each revive. The third debuff is not as important.
All up, he needs to be nerfed still, take the 1% health regen away and drop the number of debuffs required to 5 in 30 seconds, then he would possibly be about right and may become fun
1) Apoc (w/ MrF prefight + Despair 3/3)
2) Venompool (w/ Wags prefight)
3) Domino w/synergies (and Wags prefight?)
4) Torch (prefight + MrF prefight/ synergies + Wags prefight )
5) Sabretooth + KM
6) YJ w/ Revolution Needs Arms synergy (KM, for example)
Any others?
Dr. Zola