New Accounts and Unit Gain - A Problem or A Solution?

TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
edited November 2021 in General Discussion
I'll start out by saying the thing that is on a lot of people's minds: Should I start a new account for gifting purposes?

My answer, as of now: Yes, do it. Here's why:

I started a new account 96 hours ago on Thursday night. I've played for at most an hour or two each day on the new account. My gain? Oh, just almost 2,000 units. And I haven't even started exploring act 3.

Today, I beat Act 4. I have probably spent a total of about 10 revives total during this new account adventure. I have spent nothing on refills and only used 3 boosts (not counting free sigil). When all is said and done, I'll probably have about 2,500-ish units on this account by the end of the week. So, it will have taken me 7 days to get 2,500 units. After Thursday, there will be another 6 weeks until the month of december is over. That could be another 15,000 units, which would bring me up to a total of 17,500 units, which is little less than 60 GGCs for my main account. Keep in mind that I'm only playing for about an hour a day every week to get this unit gain.

So, yes, this is a good thing for the player base. No, I don't want anyone to call this an exploit. This does not exploit anything in the TOS or anything that Kabam has said about alt accounts and such. This is just an improved way to get more resources to your account. This is 100% a solution and is making having an alt account way more fun. It's in no way a problem, as if anything, it will get more people to play the game more regularly. But there is one concern with this plan.

There will always be people who go all out for gifting. And I mean ALL OUT. I am not one of those people. I've never spent a penny on the game, and I don't intend to. Last year (my first year of gifting) I explored acts 1, 2, and 3 on my main to get some units to buy GGCs. I don't know how many I got, but it was a substantial amount. I'm guessing there are a lot of other people like me who won't spend on the game even during December. The solution? Make an alt, get units, buy GGCs, repeat.

Here's what I think should happen. This should not be changed in any way. This is not a violation of the TOS. This is completely following the rules and there's no reason to change it. If it is changed, I'm sure will just increase the number of people who have chosen to not spend this December.
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  • CoMinowCoMinow Member Posts: 339 ★★
    Zan0 said:

    It is absolutely a problem and should be stopped. Anyone who has tried creating a new account after the new update knows that you gain absolutely ridiculous amounts of units for very little time invested and no effort

    Yet everyone one here complaining doesn’t have the time to do a bunch of accounts. Just time to complain about it
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Dkcody42 said:

    Of course this didn’t cross the minds of the powers that be at Kabam headquarters when they decided to buff these early acts rewards very recently. Of course not, they are always on top of everything.

    Who knows, maybe they've already altered the gifting event to take this into account. I expect we will find out when we get a response to the situation
  • cookiedealercookiedealer Member Posts: 260 ★★
    Nocko said:

    They'll just only provide the gifting badge to people who have an account created before Nov 1 or something
    But honestly, anyone who's got 5-6 hours to grind on a multiple new accounts just for GGC's, all power to you, hope you get good pull, i got no problem with that

    This doesn't fix the issue. Same as the years before it- botters, and 10+ account creators already made their accounts.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    I don’t think you guys understand how difficult it is to farm these extreme amount of units legitimately. I struggled to make 8 accounts and that was from Thanksgiving until the gifting event ended, it burnt me out so much that after I did Abyss in January I just took a long break, the logging in and changing accounts and running through old content gets boring VERY QUICKLY. I really don’t see people going extreme and breaking game balance with the amount of effort they put in

    A month ago I would agree with you. But the update to act 1-3 has revolutionised fast unit grinding. Doing 2 hours a day for 45 days (around when gifting starts) gets you 30k units. I don't know if there's many players on the forum who haven't played 2 hours a day of this game
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  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,964 ★★★★★
    Well time to get to work ig, suicides and every other mastery + as many ggcs as I want await. Totally not a problem

    This is a massive problem, but one they cannot reasonably enforce without reverting the acts (which should never have been reduced imo)
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  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    They'll probably make it so accounts that are over a certain level can participate.

    I think lvl 45 is a reasonable point to participate in gifting event.
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  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,307 ★★★★★
    IF gifting is the same and doesn’t go the way of summoner appreciation
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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    I don’t think you guys understand how difficult it is to farm these extreme amount of units legitimately. I struggled to make 8 accounts and that was from Thanksgiving until the gifting event ended, it burnt me out so much that after I did Abyss in January I just took a long break, the logging in and changing accounts and running through old content gets boring VERY QUICKLY. I really don’t see people going extreme and breaking game balance with the amount of effort they put in

    A month ago I would agree with you. But the update to act 1-3 has revolutionised fast unit grinding. Doing 2 hours a day for 45 days (around when gifting starts) gets you 30k units. I don't know if there's many players on the forum who haven't played 2 hours a day of this game
    2h playing on main progressing the content isnt the same as 2h of playing boring act123 all over again - just try it out and see how long and how many units u can farm till u burnt out
    Since the subject is unit grinding for gifting, that means you’re comparing it to arena. I feel like your argument doesn’t hold too much water.

    What’s better, getting units, crystals to open and a new account, or grinding arena for units?
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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    I don’t think you guys understand how difficult it is to farm these extreme amount of units legitimately. I struggled to make 8 accounts and that was from Thanksgiving until the gifting event ended, it burnt me out so much that after I did Abyss in January I just took a long break, the logging in and changing accounts and running through old content gets boring VERY QUICKLY. I really don’t see people going extreme and breaking game balance with the amount of effort they put in

    A month ago I would agree with you. But the update to act 1-3 has revolutionised fast unit grinding. Doing 2 hours a day for 45 days (around when gifting starts) gets you 30k units. I don't know if there's many players on the forum who haven't played 2 hours a day of this game
    2h playing on main progressing the content isnt the same as 2h of playing boring act123 all over again - just try it out and see how long and how many units u can farm till u burnt out
    Since the subject is unit grinding for gifting, that means you’re comparing it to arena. I feel like your argument doesn’t hold too much water.

    What’s better, getting units, crystals to open and a new account, or grinding arena for units?
    you are just speculating mate, just give it a go and you'll see - arenas are more fun compared to playing act123 - tried that last xmas, and i wanted to delete all alts (4).. and i hate arenas with passion.

    and i take units on my main any day - you can use them any time of the year, dont need to wait for xmas and short 2 weeks window to gift bunch of items. last year i sent myself 40 GGC - and got rewards that were not worth all the time spent (i couldve been just unlucky) - but will never do that again
    Ok well firstly, this seems like we’re talking about something subjective. Whether arena or act 1-3 is more mind numbing. So that’s just an opinion. But remember you said you tried it last year and it was bad, but it’s been updated so act 1 is 1 chapter, act 2 is 1 chapter and act 3 is 2 chapters. It’s gone from 12 chapters you need to do, to 4 chapters with less paths anyway.

    Secondly, something you can be objective about is unit amount per time. We’re talking about the ability right now to grind out 30k units for 2 hours a day for the next 45 days. Could you do that with arena?
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