Not able to use suicide masteries to max extent !! Should i turn it off for good ?

So i recently unlocked suicides as i am an arena grinder so they defo help there as i have noticed .

My champs aren't that sui friendly and today when i went in cav. EQ i ended up spending revives for the 1st time in 6 months as i am in a habit of launching special attacks . I thought the 60% attack and 30% from specials will negate the damage from recoil and balance it out but NO , for the love of god I can't get the hang of these masteries.

Instead of making fights quicker , they are making it more difficult and time consuming and i have started to regret unlocking them . These are my top champs . When it comes to content , i have absolutely started hating them now as it frustrated me since I wasn't able to use specials when i wanted .

Does it takes time to get the hang of suicides ??

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TheBoogyMan

So i recently unlocked suicides as i am an arena grinder so they defo help there as i have noticed .

My champs aren't that sui friendly and today when i went in cav. EQ i ended up spending revives for the 1st time in 6 months as i am in a habit of launching special attacks . I thought the 60% attack and 30% from specials will negate the damage from recoil and balance it out but NO , for the love of god I can't get the hang of these masteries.

Instead of making fights quicker , they are making it more difficult and time consuming and i have started to regret unlocking them . These are my top champs . When it comes to content , i have absolutely started hating them now as it frustrated me since I wasn't able to use specials when i wanted .

Does it takes time to get the hang of suicides ??

I see those 42k units in your first image. Why cut it out in the second?

Rohit_316

So i recently unlocked suicides as i am an arena grinder so they defo help there as i have noticed .

My champs aren't that sui friendly and today when i went in cav. EQ i ended up spending revives for the 1st time in 6 months as i am in a habit of launching special attacks . I thought the 60% attack and 30% from specials will negate the damage from recoil and balance it out but NO , for the love of god I can't get the hang of these masteries.

Instead of making fights quicker , they are making it more difficult and time consuming and i have started to regret unlocking them . These are my top champs . When it comes to content , i have absolutely started hating them now as it frustrated me since I wasn't able to use specials when i wanted .

Does it takes time to get the hang of suicides ??

I see those 42k units in your first image. Why cut it out in the second?

Lol 😂 i posted same image twice so deleted that .

TheBoogyMan

So i recently unlocked suicides as i am an arena grinder so they defo help there as i have noticed .

My champs aren't that sui friendly and today when i went in cav. EQ i ended up spending revives for the 1st time in 6 months as i am in a habit of launching special attacks . I thought the 60% attack and 30% from specials will negate the damage from recoil and balance it out but NO , for the love of god I can't get the hang of these masteries.

Instead of making fights quicker , they are making it more difficult and time consuming and i have started to regret unlocking them . These are my top champs . When it comes to content , i have absolutely started hating them now as it frustrated me since I wasn't able to use specials when i wanted .

Does it takes time to get the hang of suicides ??

I see those 42k units in your first image. Why cut it out in the second?
Lol 😂 i posted same image twice so deleted that .

Arena grinder or whale?

Rohit_316

So i recently unlocked suicides as i am an arena grinder so they defo help there as i have noticed .

My champs aren't that sui friendly and today when i went in cav. EQ i ended up spending revives for the 1st time in 6 months as i am in a habit of launching special attacks . I thought the 60% attack and 30% from specials will negate the damage from recoil and balance it out but NO , for the love of god I can't get the hang of these masteries.

Instead of making fights quicker , they are making it more difficult and time consuming and i have started to regret unlocking them . These are my top champs . When it comes to content , i have absolutely started hating them now as it frustrated me since I wasn't able to use specials when i wanted .

Does it takes time to get the hang of suicides ??

I see those 42k units in your first image. Why cut it out in the second?
Lol 😂 i posted same image twice so deleted that .

Arena grinder or whale?

I am f2p ... it's easy to earn 5k units with a mild arena grind ..just gotta know how to maximize unit gain.

Moosetiptronic

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.

Colinwhitworth69

I set mine up so I can redo only the offense tree to turn them off and on. 60 units. I do not use them for the EQ but I do in AW, AQ and side quests, as needed.

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willrun4adonut

What is your secret for 5k for a mild arena grind? (Or how do you define mild). I grind arenas and never get that close - unless we're talking about two months worth.

I use suicides too and just had to get used to not using sp1 and sp2 as much. I also use my r3 Doom so I don't just use suicide friendly champs either.

Lovejoy72

I’ve always felt that once you’ve built your account around NOT using those masteries, it’s very challenging to switch over. I used them for a long time early on, and it was fine. I turned them off due to some event that punished debuffs (don’t remember which), and forgot about them. Couple years of rank ups later, and I’ve no idea how to fit them in anymore.

Runavargr

Are you using willpower and coag as well?

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Lovejoy72

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.
I’ve always seen people recommend Ultron with suicides. Isn’t he just double immune? How does he benefit a lot from these masteries?

I like him because if you go up against a champion or node that punishes debuffs, he doesn’t bring those in with suicides. And if you have the hulkbuster synergy you can do just SP 3s. Barring that, you also have guaranteed healing with him to get back recoil damage.

Moosetiptronic

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.

As an ouchies user, you end up relying a LOT on champions that heal, either from will power or naturally, do most damage/utility on sp3 and heavies or only need one special in a fight.

Cable horseman, wolverine, g2099, Ultron, red mags, max sig guardian, hulk buster, bwcv, Diablo, king Groot.

And be really conservative on specials (Diablo excluded) or only use sp3. Because they have to cover at least 3 and often 4 fights.

Or so least partially immune, where you know you'll only do 1-3 fights, like Medusa, hype, CGR, apoc, white mags, kingpin.

Given your roster, unless your favorites are Ultron, bwcv, Angela, g2099, cable, then you may not enjoy them. Especially if you enjoy spamming specials and use power control a lot.
I’ve always seen people recommend Ultron with suicides. Isn’t he just double immune? How does he benefit a lot from these masteries?
I like him because if you go up against a champion or node that punishes debuffs, he doesn’t bring those in with suicides. And if you have the hulkbuster synergy you can do just SP 3s. Barring that, you also have guaranteed healing with him to get back recoil damage.

This ^^ :-) you can use specials with hulk buster at high sig and even more so with Ultron, as you always have that healing to recover from recoil.

AverageDesi

So i recently unlocked suicides as i am an arena grinder so they defo help there as i have noticed .

My champs aren't that sui friendly and today when i went in cav. EQ i ended up spending revives for the 1st time in 6 months as i am in a habit of launching special attacks . I thought the 60% attack and 30% from specials will negate the damage from recoil and balance it out but NO , for the love of god I can't get the hang of these masteries.

Instead of making fights quicker , they are making it more difficult and time consuming and i have started to regret unlocking them . These are my top champs . When it comes to content , i have absolutely started hating them now as it frustrated me since I wasn't able to use specials when i wanted .

Does it takes time to get the hang of suicides ??

I see those 42k units in your first image. Why cut it out in the second?
Lol 😂 i posted same image twice so deleted that .

Arena grinder or whale?
I am f2p ... it's easy to earn 5k units with a mild arena grind ..just gotta know how to maximize unit gain.

Sure your wisdom o sensei