Ok, I'm going to just say it now....

For the first time in my 5 years of playing this game, I'm going to say something I never thought I would ever say....
There are too many characters in this game.
Let me clarify; there are too many characters, and not enough ways to get the ones you want/need. Case in point, and I'm certain many of you are in a similar boat with ________champion(s), I've been chasing apocalypse since he was released. I have (as of 5 minutes ago) opened over 50 dual class crystals chasing the one character, and still nothing. With over 200 champions in the game, it's entirely possible that you could chase a certain champion for the life of the game and NEVER pull them.
So I'll ask this again, no doubt in vain, Don't you think it's time we revisit the topics of dual class 6 star and wish crystals?
Obviously this is strictly a player's discussion, as Kabam refuses to address this.

Comments

Saquongoat

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter as long as you have a Diablo. But seriously, they should give more nexi (is that a correct plural?) and whenever they wanna make the wish crystal…

gannicus0830

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter as long as you have a Diablo. But seriously, they should give more nexi (is that a correct plural?) and whenever they wanna make the wish crystal…

What fascinates me about the wish crystal is that it was THEIR IDEA, yet now they refuse to even acknowledge it. It would almost be funny if it weren't so Kabam.

gannicus0830

I love the disagrees with no explanation. I can't help but wonder how anyone who plays this game could disagree with pro-player suggestions like this. Trolls gonna troll I guess.

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winterthur

Apoc is not appearing in basic arena (based on "known" schedule till first week June). Maybe there will be "featured" Cavalier or GM crystals sale. Since I don't use units to spin crystals, dual crystal is the only method, unfortunately.

ccrider474

Rng mate I hear you entirely though. I've been chasing ghost since she was released in 2018. Still not even a 5.

Flip side that is my reminder to not hold stuff for any champ because you may never get them.

I would be all over a dual class crystal as I have no need for her but I want her.

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Midias12

I feel you I got 138 6* champs before I finally pulled mole man and I still don't have as a 5*

Cirrus

For the first time in my 5 years of playing this game, I'm going to say something I never thought I would ever say....
There are too many characters in this game.
Let me clarify; there are too many characters, and not enough ways to get the ones you want/need. Case in point, and I'm certain many of you are in a similar boat with ________champion(s), I've been chasing apocalypse since he was released. I have (as of 5 minutes ago) opened over 50 dual class crystals chasing the one character, and still nothing. With over 200 champions in the game, it's entirely possible that you could chase a certain champion for the life of the game and NEVER pull them.
So I'll ask this again, no doubt in vain, Don't you think it's time we revisit the topics of dual class 6 star and wish crystals?
Obviously this is strictly a player's discussion, as Kabam refuses to address this.

Arena? .. if you want a champ enough grind for one

OGAvenger

For the first time in my 5 years of playing this game, I'm going to say something I never thought I would ever say....
There are too many characters in this game.
Let me clarify; there are too many characters, and not enough ways to get the ones you want/need. Case in point, and I'm certain many of you are in a similar boat with ________champion(s), I've been chasing apocalypse since he was released. I have (as of 5 minutes ago) opened over 50 dual class crystals chasing the one character, and still nothing. With over 200 champions in the game, it's entirely possible that you could chase a certain champion for the life of the game and NEVER pull them.
So I'll ask this again, no doubt in vain, Don't you think it's time we revisit the topics of dual class 6 star and wish crystals?
Obviously this is strictly a player's discussion, as Kabam refuses to address this.
Arena? .. if you want a champ enough grind for one

Worst tip/suggestion on this entire forum…

Cirrus

For the first time in my 5 years of playing this game, I'm going to say something I never thought I would ever say....
There are too many characters in this game.
Let me clarify; there are too many characters, and not enough ways to get the ones you want/need. Case in point, and I'm certain many of you are in a similar boat with ________champion(s), I've been chasing apocalypse since he was released. I have (as of 5 minutes ago) opened over 50 dual class crystals chasing the one character, and still nothing. With over 200 champions in the game, it's entirely possible that you could chase a certain champion for the life of the game and NEVER pull them.
So I'll ask this again, no doubt in vain, Don't you think it's time we revisit the topics of dual class 6 star and wish crystals?
Obviously this is strictly a player's discussion, as Kabam refuses to address this.
Arena? .. if you want a champ enough grind for one
Worst tip/suggestion on this entire forum…

Whys that ?

Cirrus

Never said i didn't agree with post just saying if you want a champ that bad try and grind for one

Zeraphan

For the average player grinding the arena isn't going to get them a 6* champ. Between the bots, mercs, and people who don't mind whaling on refreshes the arenas aren't average/casual friendly. I threw everything I had a couple months ago at the Warlock arena, which included something like 43 full 6* teams, and used a few hundred units on refreshes as well. My score ended up being like 2/3 of what was needed to get Warlock.

Nemeschy

For me, I have more of a problem with rank up mats.. I feel like I have been fairly lucky with pulls.. There are only >10 champs that I am actively hunting as a 6* at this point. I do spend, on the holidays, and on the really good daily cards like this past month.. I also grind the arena for all the milestones as often as I can. Just turns out that Catalysts are my roadblock more than anything.

I do have an alt account that I do not spend a penny on. There I have the exact opposite problem. Catalysts in the overflow/expiring and no good champs or no gold to use them. So one way or another Kabam is going to starve you of something.

13579rebel_

There are too many characters in this game.

No there will never be too many champs in the game until Zemo is added

Felix33

I know your pain. I have been playing this game more than 6 years and best Magneto I've had was a 3*.

After his buff, he became such a crucial champion to have, I was losing my mind with every dual crystal. It especially gets frustrating when he can solo more than half of act 7 bosses and you keep seeing "Magneto 15 hit solo" videos online.

I finally got him from an Incursion Crystal. They changed the crystals a bit recently and I didn't see anything I liked so I am not sure if that was a good change or bad one but, they are the closest we can get to a wish crystal with a 1/8 chance. But they are not that accessible, limited in number and change almost every 3 months. (And with my progression unless it is another beyond god tier I am fishing, I am gonna go for 2k 6*)

I genuinely think Incursions are one the best content in the game. I quit my alliance, I might quit the game soon but, I might always open the game for an hour to play with my friends.

I think rewards are great (i.e. 5-6* and incursion shards) but an update to the store would be great.

Shiroihara

In fairness you could have outright selected Apocalypse from the cyber weekend offer, which is what I did.

Squirrelguy

As someone with an incredible 6* mutant roster, I’ve been waiting on an Apoc since release as well. I pulled him as a 5* two days ago. Honestly, I get why those things would be fun and nice to have, but I’ll stick up for the “trolls” for a minute.

I love the disagrees with no explanation. I can't help but wonder how anyone who plays this game could disagree with pro-player suggestions like this. Trolls gonna troll I guess.

1. Not everyone has time or wants to you in effort explaining themselves. Unless you are simply stating a fact (even then, I still have), then you’re likely going to find someone to disagree with you. The point of having a disagree button is to have a simple way of gauging how many people don’t agree with you.
2. There are a lot of reasons why players could disagree with “pro-player” suggestions. Maybe they think you’re not pushing the ideas far enough. Maybe they think it would wreck the in-game economy. Maybe they agree with the “there are too many characters in this game” part of your comment and decided not to read on. Maybe they think they have a better idea. Maybe they like a bit of randomness in champion acquisition. Maybe they disagree with the sass that you included in the statement “since obviously Kabam will not address this”. Maybe they have all the champs they want.
3.

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter as long as you have a Diablo. But seriously, they should give more nexi (is that a correct plural?) and whenever they wanna make the wish crystal…
What fascinates me about the wish crystal is that it was THEIR IDEA, yet now they refuse to even acknowledge it. It would almost be funny if it weren't so Kabam.

What fascinates me is that it was their idea and they have indeed acknowledged it in multiple other posts since the one that brought it up. It’s not on top of their list, and they don’t discuss every new item they release before they release it. Some people like to be surprised. Kabam is not legally required to inform the community every time they change their mind (the roadmaps were projections, not facts) on an idea.

KingInBlack

Since they'll never let go of everything being rng decided always and forever at the very least dual class needs to go in favor of just class crystals. As you've said, targeting champs is basically not a thing and for newer accounts targeting iso is all but impossible. Class crystals takes a step in the right direction towards addressing both. Wish crystals are nothing more than a wish at this point and even class crystals have lower odds at a specific champ than featured crystals do and those things are the bane of my mcoc existence. So kabam can keep players eternally chasing what they'll never attain and still throw us a bone by making the odds slightly more in our favor.

KingInBlack

In fairness you could have outright selected Apocalypse from the cyber weekend offer, which is what I did.

That's what I did too since I wasn't getting him otherwise. But that was an 18k unit investment, not too realistic if you haven't been saving ahead of time or willing to give $600 for him.

Shiroihara

In fairness you could have outright selected Apocalypse from the cyber weekend offer, which is what I did.
That's what I did too since I wasn't getting him otherwise. But that was an 18k unit investment, not too realistic if you haven't been saving ahead of time or willing to give $600 for him.

I don’t think it’s a matter of being realistic. If you’ve been playing for a while, saving your units for those events should be a priority because they are account changing.

BuggyDClown

I agree with this
6 star dual can be introduced at this point

Mauled

At this stage I think that 5 and 6* crystals should be nexuses pretty much a standard. Ultimately that just means you’ve got a 3/200 chance of pulling an individual champion which isn’t really game changing as those aren’t exactly high odds. It would however give a little bit more control. Since I’ve started playing the game the pullable champions has increased by almost 100, effectively halving my odds of pulling a specific champion.

Aburaees

I love the disagrees with no explanation. I can't help but wonder how anyone who plays this game could disagree with pro-player suggestions like this. Trolls gonna troll I guess.

Ever heard of The Emperor’s New Clothes? I often think about that story when I visit forums and comment sections. People will agree with square circles and disagree with round circles, therefore I wouldn’t pay it any attention.

TimeGenesis

At this stage I think that 5 and 6* crystals should be nexuses pretty much a standard. Ultimately that just means you’ve got a 3/200 chance of pulling an individual champion which isn’t really game changing as those aren’t exactly high odds. It would however give a little bit more control. Since I’ve started playing the game the pullable champions has increased by almost 100, effectively halving my odds of pulling a specific champion.

Would love to have / see a Dual Class Nexus Crystals

Edit: Or more of the Year Crystals -
I wouldnt mind paying the same amount of shards as featured for this to give us a better chance of hunting specific champs.
For obvious moneytary reasons, they can exclude maybe the last 2/3 years for the selection (1 crystal each for 2015, 16, 17, 18 and 2019 based on current date)

Cirrus

For the average player grinding the arena isn't going to get them a 6* champ. Between the bots, mercs, and people who don't mind whaling on refreshes the arenas aren't average/casual friendly. I threw everything I had a couple months ago at the Warlock arena, which included something like 43 full 6* teams, and used a few hundred units on refreshes as well. My score ended up being like 2/3 of what was needed to get Warlock.

Yes I agree , would be nice to see the champions at certain milestones 5* 40m 6* 80m ?? , and the rank rewards will be similar but would be a rank up gem instead of the champ . 5 * are considerably alot easier to win from arena . As most have been saying they have had no luck in duel crystals i presumed they were looking for 5* version ..

K00shMaan

Yes this is an obvious issue that anyone could have seen coming from the inception of the game. Dual Crystals are a big help. The new Incursion Crystals I'm sure are helpful for progressing players as well as they target a specific problem that can be solved by a pool of champions. I don't think they ever have to make it super easy to get a single specific champion, but it needs to be easier than a 1/70~ (and getting worse) chance.

I think there need to be more opportunities to use crystals shards for more compact groups of champions. Maybe add a yearly crystal that they rotate through each day as well in addition to the dual class ones. Segregating by year is nice as the odds of getting who you're looking for don't get worse over time.

Adding more Nexuses would obviously be nice but that has a more significant effect on the quality of champs you are on average going to pull overall which is different than just making it easier to get someone in particular.

OGAvenger

For the average player grinding the arena isn't going to get them a 6* champ. Between the bots, mercs, and people who don't mind whaling on refreshes the arenas aren't average/casual friendly. I threw everything I had a couple months ago at the Warlock arena, which included something like 43 full 6* teams, and used a few hundred units on refreshes as well. My score ended up being like 2/3 of what was needed to get Warlock.

Yes I agree , would be nice to see the champions at certain milestones 5* 40m 6* 80m ?? , and the rank rewards will be similar but would be a rank up gem instead of the champ . 5 * are considerably alot easier to win from arena . As most have been saying they have had no luck in duel crystals i presumed they were looking for 5* version ..

Easier than the 6* but still not easy. For the majority of players you’re still devoting 3 days of your life to this soul sucking game mode. Arena is easily the most boring game mode just barely topping AQ and again the majority of players can’t devote 3 straight days of their life to grinding arena. And so help me LAWD if I put in all that work to grind for a champ and I come in 501st place, I’d absolutely lose all my marbles.

GroundedWisdom

For the average player grinding the arena isn't going to get them a 6* champ. Between the bots, mercs, and people who don't mind whaling on refreshes the arenas aren't average/casual friendly. I threw everything I had a couple months ago at the Warlock arena, which included something like 43 full 6* teams, and used a few hundred units on refreshes as well. My score ended up being like 2/3 of what was needed to get Warlock.

Yes I agree , would be nice to see the champions at certain milestones 5* 40m 6* 80m ?? , and the rank rewards will be similar but would be a rank up gem instead of the champ . 5 * are considerably alot easier to win from arena . As most have been saying they have had no luck in duel crystals i presumed they were looking for 5* version ..
Easier than the 6* but still not easy. For the majority of players you’re still devoting 3 days of your life to this soul sucking game mode. Arena is easily the most boring game mode just barely topping AQ and again the majority of players can’t devote 3 straight days of their life to grinding arena. And so help me LAWD if I put in all that work to grind for a champ and I come in 501st place, I’d absolutely lose all my marbles.

Who says the majority of people are supposed to have all the Champs?

OGAvenger

For the average player grinding the arena isn't going to get them a 6* champ. Between the bots, mercs, and people who don't mind whaling on refreshes the arenas aren't average/casual friendly. I threw everything I had a couple months ago at the Warlock arena, which included something like 43 full 6* teams, and used a few hundred units on refreshes as well. My score ended up being like 2/3 of what was needed to get Warlock.

Yes I agree , would be nice to see the champions at certain milestones 5* 40m 6* 80m ?? , and the rank rewards will be similar but would be a rank up gem instead of the champ . 5 * are considerably alot easier to win from arena . As most have been saying they have had no luck in duel crystals i presumed they were looking for 5* version ..
Easier than the 6* but still not easy. For the majority of players you’re still devoting 3 days of your life to this soul sucking game mode. Arena is easily the most boring game mode just barely topping AQ and again the majority of players can’t devote 3 straight days of their life to grinding arena. And so help me LAWD if I put in all that work to grind for a champ and I come in 501st place, I’d absolutely lose all my marbles.
Who says the majority of people are supposed to have all the Champs?

Uhhh nobody. Literally nobody has said that