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Spider Gwen vs Bishop

Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 757 ★★★
edited March 2022 in Bugs and Known Issues
Shouldn’t she be able to evade his SP1 when it’s unblockable? She evades the first 2 hits but gets wrecked by the last few.
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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Do you accidentally tap block?
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    Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 757 ★★★
    Nope hands weren’t even on the screen for that reason
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    Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 757 ★★★

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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    She only has 1 charge. She needs 3 I believe to fully evade unblockable
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    Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 757 ★★★
    That’s against basic attacks. Unblockable gains +%550 evade chance.
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    Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 757 ★★★

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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    That’s against basic attacks. Unblockable gains +%550 evade chance.

    Yes, but each charge is 7%. 550% of 7 is 38.5%
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    AverageDesiAverageDesi Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    edited March 2022


    550% of the evade chance. At 3 she has 21% chance to evade. Increase that by 550% you get 6.5*21=136% or so. At one it is just 7*6.5 = 45 ish
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    Crimson8399Crimson8399 Posts: 757 ★★★
    I don’t believe that the unblockable evade is affected by charges. It doesn’t say it anyway.
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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★


    550% of the evade chance. At 3 she has 21% chance to evade. Increase that by 550% you get 6.5*21=105% or so. At one it is just 7*6.5 = 45 ish
    550% is x5.5.
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    MaratoxMaratox Posts: 1,537 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    She only has 1 charge. She needs 3 I believe to fully evade unblockable

    To explain the math behind this, spidergwen has a 7% chance per charge to evade any attack, and this chance increases by 550% (38.5% chance) when the attack is an unblockable special attack hit. So she needs 3 charges to have a 100% chance (really 115.5% chance) to evade an unblockable special attack.
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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    I don’t believe that the unblockable evade is affected by charges. It doesn’t say it anyway.

    It says 550% evade ability accuracy. Not 550% evade chance. It increases the evade ability by 550% which at base is 7%.
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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    ItsDamien said:


    550% of the evade chance. At 3 she has 21% chance to evade. Increase that by 550% you get 6.5*21=105% or so. At one it is just 7*6.5 = 45 ish
    550% is x5.5.
    100+550 is x6.5
    It’s only increasing the 7% evade ability.
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    ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Zan0 said:

    ItsDamien said:


    550% of the evade chance. At 3 she has 21% chance to evade. Increase that by 550% you get 6.5*21=105% or so. At one it is just 7*6.5 = 45 ish
    550% is x5.5.
    100+550 is x6.5
    It’s only increasing the 7% evade ability.
    Yeah but 100% AA + 550% AA gets you the multiplier 6.5
    It’s 100% chance for the 550% to trigger. It’s not added onto the 550%.
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    AverageDesiAverageDesi Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:


    550% of the evade chance. At 3 she has 21% chance to evade. Increase that by 550% you get 6.5*21=105% or so. At one it is just 7*6.5 = 45 ish
    550% is x5.5.
    +100% would be × 2
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    AverageDesiAverageDesi Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    I don’t believe that the unblockable evade is affected by charges. It doesn’t say it anyway.

    There are 2 things. The actual proc rate of an ability and the ability accuracy of the ability. At base usually it is 100%.

    Spidergwen at 1 charge has a 100% chance to evade attacks 7% of the time. Now , the +550% is added to the 100%. So now she has 650% chance to evade 7% of the time which results in a 6.5* 7% chance to evade.

    At 3 charges this adds up to 136% chance to evade which makes it guaranteed
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    Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Posts: 7,033
    Hey there, just to confirm what some here have mentioned, the bonus she gets to her Evade Ability Accuracy against Unblockable Special Attacks is a multiplier to her Evade Ability Accuracy, rather than a flat increase. So, barring anything else increasing or decreasing her ability accuracy or outright preventing Evade, she'll need 3 Spider-Sense Charges to be able to guarantee an Evasion against Unblockable Special Attacks.

    This is part of the reason she starts the fight with 3 Charges when fighting Superior Class opponents, so that she doesn't have to worry about ramping up against them quite as much. This is also a reason to be considerate about where you use her Gwenom Rising synergy. I personally love it in many places for the extra punch it gives her, but if I'm bringing her to the quest specifically to deal with Ublockable specials, I may opt for a different synergy, since it lowers her Evade Ability Accuracy.
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