Gwenmaster's reverse controls

Demonzfyre

Why is Prof X immune to reverse controls in that fight but Stryfe isn't? They both carry the tag.

PapaMidnite007

I do agree with the psychic shielding tag but its not written in stryfe's abilities about the reverse controls immunity. Its clearly written in Prof X's abilities that he is immune to reverse controls. I believe Mr.Sinister is too. But if Stryfe is supposed to be immune to reverse controls then its an issue that needs to be addressed. But its not written in his abilities so i believe he isnt immune to reverse controls.

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Demonzfyre

I get all that but Gwenmaster is basically Emma Frost in first phase. That's what that tag is for.
https://youtu.be/VR-1zPBVHU4

Since it's her abilities, shouldn't he be immune?

PapaMidnite007

Demonzfyre said:

I get all that but Gwenmaster is basically Emma Frost in first phase. That's what that tag is for.
https://youtu.be/VR-1zPBVHU4

Since it's her abilities, shouldn't he be immune?

I see what you mean if Gwenmaster is Emma Frost in her first phase then he should be.

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Demonzfyre

brownlikebambi said:

Demonzfyre said:

I get all that but Gwenmaster is basically Emma Frost in first phase. That's what that tag is for.
https://youtu.be/VR-1zPBVHU4

Since it's her abilities, shouldn't he be immune?

Huh that’s actually interesting. i know that psychic shielding doesn’t work for the GM, but i’m not sure where the discrepancy lies in emma frosts abilities to the GMs.

Emma's is psychic.

StevieManWonder

He should be immune, it’s stupid that he isn’t

BuggyDClown

Demonzfyre said:

Why is Prof X immune to reverse controls in that fight but Stryfe isn't? They both carry the tag.

It's been argued a lot. Simple conclusion I find relevant is what @PapaMidnite007 said. Yet I find quite absurd that he have tag for supposed immunity yet don't have.

Like in Map 7 Aq, You can use mags and stryfe on reverse control path in sec 1 and sec 3 cuz they mention the tag Psychic shield yet on some matchups it doesn't work at all
So it may be that in general node may had to specify the his tag to work meanwhile prof x have immunity in his basic kit

Demonzfyre

BuggyDClown said:

Demonzfyre said:

Why is Prof X immune to reverse controls in that fight but Stryfe isn't? They both carry the tag.

It's been argued a lot. Simple conclusion I find relevant is what @PapaMidnite007 said. Yet I find quite absurd that he have tag for supposed immunity yet don't have.

Like in Map 7 Aq, You can use mags and stryfe on reverse control path in sec 1 and sec 3 cuz they mention the tag Psychic shield yet on some matchups it doesn't work at all
So it may be that in general node may had to specify the his tag to work meanwhile prof x have immunity in his basic kit

Delerium specifies psychic shielding.

Lpoo

If Stryfe is immune to Emma’s reverse controls, and Gwenmaster’s first phase is Emma, then Stryfe should be immune to Gwenmaster’s reverse controls. That’s it.

SHIELD4AGENT

cause Kabam said so

Lpoo

Also, just use professor x 🤷‍♂️ He reliably got me through at least 3 phases each time

Demonzfyre

Lpoo said:

Also, just use professor x 🤷‍♂️ He reliably got me through at least 3 phases each time

I did but he was on AWD for a bit so I thought I could use Stryfe instead.

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AverageDesi

Lol i thought @LordPSN changed profile picture on seeing the title

AverageDesi

She isn't "basically Emma frost " in that phase. It's just flair text to make the fight fun . Look carefully she isn't even wearing Emma's leggings or dooms hoodie.Mechanics are different from names and colour. Get to the aarkus phase and you'll see him armour break and inflict coldsnap on champs that are immune to either or both.

#psychic sheilding is not the same as reverse control immunity. It says in Emma's sig that she cannot inflict reverse on that tag. The same is not true for gwenamaster.

Tldr: read the kit. Don't go in with assumptions

Demonzfyre

AverageDesi said:

She isn't "basically Emma frost " in that phase. It's just flair text to make the fight fun . Look carefully she isn't even wearing Emma's leggings or dooms hoodie.Mechanics are different from names and colour. Get to the aarkus phase and you'll see him armour break and inflict coldsnap on champs that are immune to either or both.

#psychic sheilding is not the same as reverse control immunity. It says in Emma's sig that she cannot inflict reverse on that tag. The same is not true for gwenamaster.

Tldr: read the kit. Don't go in with assumptions

The coldsnap thing is a known bug.

AverageDesi

Zan0 said:

Wonder if her cold snap bug was ever fixed

What bug @Zan0

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AverageDesi

Zan0 said:

Wonder if her cold snap bug was ever fixed

What bug @Zan0

Demonzfyre said:

AverageDesi said:

She isn't "basically Emma frost " in that phase. It's just flair text to make the fight fun . Look carefully she isn't even wearing Emma's leggings or dooms hoodie.Mechanics are different from names and colour. Get to the aarkus phase and you'll see him armour break and inflict coldsnap on champs that are immune to either or both.

#psychic sheilding is not the same as reverse control immunity. It says in Emma's sig that she cannot inflict reverse on that tag. The same is not true for gwenamaster.

Tldr: read the kit. Don't go in with assumptions

The coldsnap thing is a known bug.

Yeah. You're right. The kit says passive coldsnap

AverageDesi

Demonzfyre said:

AverageDesi said:

She isn't "basically Emma frost " in that phase. It's just flair text to make the fight fun . Look carefully she isn't even wearing Emma's leggings or dooms hoodie.Mechanics are different from names and colour. Get to the aarkus phase and you'll see him armour break and inflict coldsnap on champs that are immune to either or both.

#psychic sheilding is not the same as reverse control immunity. It says in Emma's sig that she cannot inflict reverse on that tag. The same is not true for gwenamaster.

Tldr: read the kit. Don't go in with assumptions

The coldsnap thing is a known bug.

Was it confirmed to not be just a text error? I guess it makes sense from a game pov

Demonzfyre

AverageDesi said:

Demonzfyre said:

AverageDesi said:

She isn't "basically Emma frost " in that phase. It's just flair text to make the fight fun . Look carefully she isn't even wearing Emma's leggings or dooms hoodie.Mechanics are different from names and colour. Get to the aarkus phase and you'll see him armour break and inflict coldsnap on champs that are immune to either or both.

#psychic sheilding is not the same as reverse control immunity. It says in Emma's sig that she cannot inflict reverse on that tag. The same is not true for gwenamaster.

Tldr: read the kit. Don't go in with assumptions

The coldsnap thing is a known bug.

Was it confirmed to not be just a text error? I guess it makes sense from a game pov

Not that I'm aware of. I used HT and he was still effected by it.

Graves_3

Looks like somebody finally decided to explore story content. 🙃 was it the rewards that motivated you?

JhonST33

Lpoo said:

If Stryfe is immune to Emma’s reverse controls, and Gwenmaster’s first phase is Emma, then Stryfe should be immune to Gwenmaster’s reverse controls. That’s it.

Gwen master apply reverse control on sp1 but she doesn't have psychic hit on it so Stryfe is unable to bypass that reverse control unlike to Emma frost, that she has psychic hit on her specials on her habilitiys so Stryfe can shrug of this hability.

Demonzfyre

Graves_3 said:

Looks like somebody finally decided to explore story content. 🙃 was it the rewards that motivated you?

It was the MROC package.