In this fight I went in with Diablo first and forgot to activate my nullify pre fight so couldn't get the solo unfortunately. But With 75 charges left in the abyss I easily had room to finish off the first 20% I didn't do. 75 Charges is about 35% health based on this progress
That was 5/5 here! But I think even 4/5 would have the same results. 8% power per buff means you need 12 buffs nullified for max power, and VTD consistently procs 10. I don't think you'd have a tough time keeping up the poisons, a combo or two after all the buffs are nullified will take you to full power.
How are those without antivenin and knull doing the spiderverse challenge?
And no Shang chi for challengers
I'm taking a 4* Anti Venom for OML, everyone else on that path is pretty straight forward
Knull? I have neither. Saw MSD post about 3 solos with antivenom as a 5*
This is my plan, my guess for 3 AntiVenom solos that MSD is taking about is Darkhawk, OML and either Joe Fixit or maybe Dorm?
He’s not necessary for any. The biggest challenge on that path is OML but he can be done with Sym Spidey, Mysterio, Knull or AV
Based on my current roster avaialbility my team will be Sym Venom, Miles(5* will have to rank) Antin venkm 4* for oml. Who do you reckon 5th spot? Don't have s99. Or havnt ranked him and don't think it's worth just for mordo basing of your fight plan. Miles won't be able to deal damage to gg will he? Maybe peni and myetrio?
How are those without antivenin and knull doing the spiderverse challenge?
And no Shang chi for challengers
I'm taking a 4* Anti Venom for OML, everyone else on that path is pretty straight forward
Knull? I have neither. Saw MSD post about 3 solos with antivenom as a 5*
This is my plan, my guess for 3 AntiVenom solos that MSD is taking about is Darkhawk, OML and either Joe Fixit or maybe Dorm?
He’s not necessary for any. The biggest challenge on that path is OML but he can be done with Sym Spidey, Mysterio, Knull or AV
Based on my current roster avaialbility my team will be Sym Venom, Miles(5* will have to rank) Antin venkm 4* for oml. Who do you reckon 5th spot? Don't have s99. Or havnt ranked him and don't think it's worth just for mordo basing of your fight plan. Miles won't be able to deal damage to gg will he? Maybe peni and myetrio?
Those guys can handle all the fights, so bring another option for one of the fights or bring a synergy id say!
Miles won’t deal much damage no, but I’m gonna try it out and see how long it takes. I may just stick an episode (or 5) of Netflix on and watch that while I do it. I don’t want to have to, but if it saves me enough revives it’s worth it for the rest of the challenges. I’ve got 3 left to go for the profile pic!
Been testing Mysterio with peni synergy Vs OMl and didn't get encouraging results.
How do you plan on taking darkhawk with miles? If it's possible I could also fit low star AV for OML in my team
Does the heal block not go well for Mysterio?
I do need to test Miles vs Darkhawk but in theory it should be fine. Get my 3 charges so I can activate camo on my specials, spam specials so he never gets an sp2 and just heavy spam in the corner. Rupture will do most damage, will be long but he shouldn’t regen. Again, I’ll test and make sure at some point.
But if not then I’ll just have to use AV even as a 4*
As a fun fact, AV synergy with spidey 2099 (opponent can’t activate buffs for 10 seconds at the start of the fight) actually turns off the tech abyssal power steal armour. So you don’t have to worry about that. Thanks to @StevieManWonder for that tactic
How are those without antivenin and knull doing the spiderverse challenge?
And no Shang chi for challengers
I'm taking a 4* Anti Venom for OML, everyone else on that path is pretty straight forward
Knull? I have neither. Saw MSD post about 3 solos with antivenom as a 5*
This is my plan, my guess for 3 AntiVenom solos that MSD is taking about is Darkhawk, OML and either Joe Fixit or maybe Dorm?
He’s not necessary for any. The biggest challenge on that path is OML but he can be done with Sym Spidey, Mysterio, Knull or AV
Based on my current roster avaialbility my team will be Sym Venom, Miles(5* will have to rank) Antin venkm 4* for oml. Who do you reckon 5th spot? Don't have s99. Or havnt ranked him and don't think it's worth just for mordo basing of your fight plan. Miles won't be able to deal damage to gg will he? Maybe peni and myetrio?
Those guys can handle all the fights, so bring another option for one of the fights or bring a synergy id say!
Miles won’t deal much damage no, but I’m gonna try it out and see how long it takes. I may just stick an episode (or 5) of Netflix on and watch that while I do it. I don’t want to have to, but if it saves me enough revives it’s worth it for the rest of the challenges. I’ve got 3 left to go for the profile pic!
Funny thing js , even if i knock down the 3 abyss right now, i don't have thorag at a 5/6 star so it's worthless rushing it. But I do so dearly want the PP
Been testing Mysterio with peni synergy Vs OMl and didn't get encouraging results.
How do you plan on taking darkhawk with miles? If it's possible I could also fit low star AV for OML in my team
Does the heal block not go well for Mysterio?
I do need to test Miles vs Darkhawk but in theory it should be fine. Get my 3 charges so I can activate camo on my specials, spam specials so he never gets an sp2 and just heavy spam in the corner. Rupture will do most damage, will be long but he shouldn’t regen. Again, I’ll test and make sure at some point.
But if not then I’ll just have to use AV even as a 4*
As a fun fact, AV synergy with spidey 2099 (opponent can’t activate buffs for 10 seconds at the start of the fight) actually turns off the tech abyssal power steal armour. So you don’t have to worry about that. Thanks to @StevieManWonder for that tactic
At low Sig keeping full uptime of the healblock is pain. You could feasibly keep it up if you never throw a sp3 but then you're using base Mysterio Vs a 5 mil health opponent.
At high Sig it's likely a different story but there's a lot that could randomly mess the fight up like oml evading last light attack or deciding to hold his specials at high power
I'll test out both miles and low star AV without synergy to see if they're viable for darkhawk
I completed the Carina Challenges Abyss run today, and wanted to share my team and tips!
When making your team, you want a Main damage dealer, slow champ, mystic champ and a heal reverse champ. Also bear in mind who you'll use for Collector, if you don't plan for him then it'll cost you a ton of revives. Looking at the list, I'd say Shang, Cap IW, Morningstar are the best options. Maybe Star Lord and Crossbones could work? But I'm less sure on them.
Obviously it's hard to suggest specific teams but I'm happy to recommend if anyone wants to post their roster.
Here was my plan for Abyss
IW and Collector were the big problem fights here. I wasn't sure who would work for either of them while planning, but as it turns out Shang does really well for both.
My team was: Shang Chi, Diablo, She Hulk, Void and Warlock. She Hulk and Void 5/65, others are Rank 3 6*s.
I decided to go a mixture of path 3 and 1, beginning with Darkhawk, Luke Cage etc, and joining up at Joe Fixit and going Path 1. I'd really recommend this if you're good against Luke Cage, as Dorm, Havok and OML are easy fights and cut off an extra 3 fights. That's why a slow champ is needed here. Shang destroys that fight, and so does Luke Cage.
Darkhawk Use Void here, tried a couple times until I got him to 33% and decided to start my run. Get debuffs up, reverse by knocking him down, baiting Sp2 and knocking down again
Luke Cage Shang and She Hulk here, mostly Shang. MLLLM for Stun, MM for Slow and heavy. Do 1 SP3 and then Sp2, it stays within the damage cap so no wasted damage. Look out for unblockable, he will be unblockable most of the fight and also his indestructible during your SP2.
OML Easy Void heal reverse
Havok Easy parry heavy with Warlock
Dorm She Hulk solo here, degen doesn't do too much damage so any champ without buffs could do it really.
Joe Fixit I went in with Shang a bit, but decided to reverse regen with Void instead. Involves some RNG so plan for that. Tactic is to get all debuffs up, then take a few heavy attacks from Joe for him to reroll and hopefully get Hearts permanently. He goes easy after that. You may get bored of trying for RNG and muscle him down. Up to you.
Mordo Kinda an all hands on deck moment here in practice, I threw everyone at him. Shang did well, but Mordo's AI can be stingey with specials. Void obviously did well, Diablo managed to get off 30% which was really nice.
VTD Went in with Diablo first and forgot to activate nullify pre fight which was fun. Got him to about 80% and died. Went back in and holy hell Diablo smokes VTD here. I am going to upload it to youtube at some point and I'll post it here when I do, but wow i was not expecting him to be that good. From 80% to 0% in 5 mins, and I still had 70 abyss charges left after, so easily room for a solo.
Howard Diablo took care of this in one revive in the end, after he died I used a team revive to get everyone back up and finished off with Diablo.
Hyperion Solo with She Hulk before the abyss charges ran out
Champion She Hulk and Diablo handled this together, watch out for his regen on Sp1 when he has a certain amount of furies I think.
Cyclops Diablo and Void managed this. Diablo activated energy regen pre fight in case I slipped up on evading his beam. Void power locks him, so you can play that slow.
Loki Diablo and Shang here, you have less power so it's kinda dull. But they both do really well.
Aegon Diablo solo, no poisons from heavy attacks but from the Sp3 and refresh with Sp2 and nullifying all aegon's furies is a wild time, same as VTD.
IW This was pretty tough, but Shang handles it. A good second option would be moleman I'm sure. I basically went SP3 while her forcefield was up, I used all my Wushu strikes so I didn't knock her down too much, slow on at all times so you don't get stunned by power sting. Once the forcefield was down I'd go for a big SP2, which would take off a huge chunk, since she has a smaller health pool (about 2.2m I think). I used a few team revives here since they were expiring, Warlock did alright, Diablo did surprisingly well, the others weren't great.
Cull Easy diablo solo, just remember to activate nullify pre fight
Collector Shang all day long here. After a couple team revives I realised shang was my best option. On a good run I could get 3 Sp2s off when I was at full health. This would take off about 5-10% health, sometimes I did better. I got 15% off on my best run. As the fight goes on he gets much harder, and I started doing 2-5% per run.
Shang works amazing, with the slow that sometimes sticks, the Stun that sometimes sticks and the unblockable which always sticks. All help the fight go easier. Don't bother with ramping up SP3, you might die and not get to use it. Pop a skill special damage boost for some extra juice. Use SP2 as soon as you get it. If you can, do MM or MLLM for the slow or unblockable so collector can't go unstoppable/block it.
Overall this was what my run looked like
It went around the same as my plan, depending on how you count team revives (sometimes you'll be using Void against IW because of a team revive, so it's not always 5 revives worth). 50-70 revives total. I should have added a few revives wiggle room in my plan for bad mistakes and bad RNG, but I'm definitely happy with that run.
That T3A gets me within 6k of my first R4, and I'm considering going for the mutant abyss run next with some items still in overflow. After that, I may well go ahead and go for the profile pic if everything is going to plan.
My plan for the mutant one will look much different revive wise since I won't have the health potions I used up here. One thing I will say is definitely save your health potions for Collector. They may be helpful elsewhere, but they will be helpful for collector. If you used them earlier you'll regret not having saved them.
If anyone wants advice on certain fights or team building please let me know!
I'll add my mutant plan in at some point if anyone is interested too! Good luck everyone!
How did Diablo as your mystic attacker? Mines r3 and I really don’t want to rank up my sym just for this lol
Been testing Mysterio with peni synergy Vs OMl and didn't get encouraging results.
How do you plan on taking darkhawk with miles? If it's possible I could also fit low star AV for OML in my team
Does the heal block not go well for Mysterio?
I do need to test Miles vs Darkhawk but in theory it should be fine. Get my 3 charges so I can activate camo on my specials, spam specials so he never gets an sp2 and just heavy spam in the corner. Rupture will do most damage, will be long but he shouldn’t regen. Again, I’ll test and make sure at some point.
But if not then I’ll just have to use AV even as a 4*
As a fun fact, AV synergy with spidey 2099 (opponent can’t activate buffs for 10 seconds at the start of the fight) actually turns off the tech abyssal power steal armour. So you don’t have to worry about that. Thanks to @StevieManWonder for that tactic
At low Sig keeping full uptime of the healblock is pain. You could feasibly keep it up if you never throw a sp3 but then you're using base Mysterio Vs a 5 mil health opponent.
At high Sig it's likely a different story but there's a lot that could randomly mess the fight up like oml evading last light attack or deciding to hold his specials at high power
I'll test out both miles and low star AV without synergy to see if they're viable for darkhawk
Why do you need to keep up the heal block against OML?
Just parry MM 3x with Mysterio. Then spam heavies until you reach sp3, Magneto playstyle. Then MM 3x and spam heavy until you reach sp3 again.
The poisons will reduce his healing by 30% per stack and since you don’t lose gas charges with Peni synergy, you have unlimited poison spam.
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Been considering a lot of alternatives since this is the challenge I'm least equipped for.
Dropping venom for miles and taking a mix of path 3 + 2 is looking a lot more appealing than slogging through path 1.
This is dependent on Mysterio being able to deal with Old man Logan who ends up being the only problem on the lane with the potential of road blocking
Between stacking poisons, despair, and his passive healblock I think he can get through it though it'll take a number of revives.
Having miles for Luke, Dorm, Fixit cheese should more than make up for the resources used on OML I think
Also get to avoid IMIW and quake which is more incentive for me
In this fight I went in with Diablo first and forgot to activate my nullify pre fight so couldn't get the solo unfortunately. But With 75 charges left in the abyss I easily had room to finish off the first 20% I didn't do. 75 Charges is about 35% health based on this progress
What level of MD were you running @BitterSteel
r3 Shang
r3 Diablo
r5 Void
r3 MoleMan
r2/r3 SheHulk
And no Shang chi for challengers
This is my plan, my guess for 3 AntiVenom solos that MSD is taking about is Darkhawk, OML and either Joe Fixit or maybe Dorm?
He’s not necessary for any. The biggest challenge on that path is OML but he can be done with Sym Spidey, Mysterio, Knull or AV
Sym
Venom,
Miles(5* will have to rank)
Antin venkm 4* for oml.
Who do you reckon 5th spot? Don't have s99. Or havnt ranked him and don't think it's worth just for mordo basing of your fight plan. Miles won't be able to deal damage to gg will he? Maybe peni and myetrio?
Miles won’t deal much damage no, but I’m gonna try it out and see how long it takes. I may just stick an episode (or 5) of Netflix on and watch that while I do it. I don’t want to have to, but if it saves me enough revives it’s worth it for the rest of the challenges. I’ve got 3 left to go for the profile pic!
Been testing Mysterio with peni synergy Vs OMl and didn't get encouraging results.
How do you plan on taking darkhawk with miles? If it's possible I could also fit low star AV for OML in my team
I do need to test Miles vs Darkhawk but in theory it should be fine. Get my 3 charges so I can activate camo on my specials, spam specials so he never gets an sp2 and just heavy spam in the corner. Rupture will do most damage, will be long but he shouldn’t regen. Again, I’ll test and make sure at some point.
But if not then I’ll just have to use AV even as a 4*
As a fun fact, AV synergy with spidey 2099 (opponent can’t activate buffs for 10 seconds at the start of the fight) actually turns off the tech abyssal power steal armour. So you don’t have to worry about that. Thanks to @StevieManWonder for that tactic
At high Sig it's likely a different story but there's a lot that could randomly mess the fight up like oml evading last light attack or deciding to hold his specials at high power
I'll test out both miles and low star AV without synergy to see if they're viable for darkhawk
Have to be careful about pushing to a sp2 though
If he can’t get knocked down then why will it be an issue if you push him to Sp2? He can’t change modes from only the sp2
Just parry MM 3x with Mysterio. Then spam heavies until you reach sp3, Magneto playstyle. Then MM 3x and spam heavy until you reach sp3 again.
The poisons will reduce his healing by 30% per stack and since you don’t lose gas charges with Peni synergy, you have unlimited poison spam.