What am I missing with Spiderman 2099?

Disgruntled_User_123

I’ve taken my unawakened 6 star to Rank 2 and I’ve done some testing in RoL.

For some reason, I’m not getting a Slow Debuff on the special 3 - I assume this is a bug. Nevertheless, I’m still massively underwhelmed with his damage. I don’t run suicides (other than Glass Cannon) but his hit count against Winter Soldier still averages about 270! To put that in comparison, my rank 2 unawakened Knull averages about 130.

Obviously, the slow debuff adds some damage but will it really make that much of a difference? So far I’m just not sold on Spiderman 2099. His health is low and his damage is lacking - at least unawakened with no slow debuff coming on the special 3.

odishika123

Science champs can't give skill champs slow

odishika123

In general
If a defender has class advantage you can't apply slow on them

CyborgNinja135

It's part of his abilities, and any other champs with slow. Slow cannot be applied to an opponent with class advantage. ROL is not an ideal place to gauge a character's damage, especially since in Spidey 2099's case he requires the AI to be aggressive and that's not the case in ROL.

A few tips to make the most of him. In long fights try to go for the slow since it increases your damage significantly, preferably beat WS and try it against Cap Marvel. Since you don't run suicides, using a couple of sp1 to place a few physical vulnerabilities will increase your sp2 burst damage and the rupture damage. When you place the wither make sure to hit the opponent on the block to build up ruptures, they really start to add up. When you have a bunch of them take the opponent over or under a bar of power for the massive rupture burst. His sig really helps amplify this but overall it isn't needed. Most important of all, dex from time to time to keep pausing the debuffs. This is easier with AI in cav eq or act 6/7.

Here's a recording a made a while ago before I took my spidey to r3. It takes him a while to get going but after that you can see each sp2 hit dealing a burst of 15k. Only useful synergy there is Venom which lets him place a poison debuff on sp3. He really gets going after the 2 minute mark btw so you can skip the ramp up.

https://youtu.be/wZgcd2tBiFM

SpideyFunko

odishika is correct


Also hit count isn’t the best parameter to measure a champion by

CyborgNinja135

Forgot to add. The utility is where he really shines. He can deal with most mystics except for mephisto. Turns off spite, buffet, power snack, footloose, and has some great power control once you get the wither going. If you have anti venom, he will start the fight with a wither already and in most cases the fight will be under control from the start.

GrassKnuckles

Spidey doesn’t shine in RoL type fights. He’s great where your wither is being put to work

Reference

CyborgNinja135 said:

Forgot to add. The utility is where he really shines. He can deal with most mystics except for mephisto. Turns off spite, buffet, power snack, footloose, and has some great power control once you get the wither going. If you have anti venom, he will start the fight with a wither already and in most cases the fight will be under control from the start.

Is there any effective rotation on him? Thanks.
I don’t have 6* but I’m thinking whether to r5 a 5* version.

CyborgNinja135

Fights with healthpools around 150k-200k you should be fine if you throw a few heavies to place exhaustions and 1 or 2 sp1s to get the physical vulnerabilities going. After that go for sp2 and if they aren't dead by then just keep cycling sp2 for the big burst.

For healthpools around 250k or more I'd recommend going for the sp3 first to place the slow since it counts for 4 debuffs, then go for sp1, sp2 or just straight to sp2 while weaving in some heavies.

If you need the power control right away, build to sp2 first to place the wither and a few heavies to slow down the power gain.

Always remember to dex often to keep pausing your debuffs.

EDIT: forgot to tag you @Reference lol

Reference

CyborgNinja135 said:

Fights with healthpools around 150k-200k you should be fine if you throw a few heavies to place exhaustions and 1 or 2 sp1s to get the physical vulnerabilities going. After that go for sp2 and if they aren't dead by then just keep cycling sp2 for the big burst.

For healthpools around 250k or more I'd recommend going for the sp3 first to place the slow since it counts for 4 debuffs, then go for sp1, sp2 or just straight to sp2 while weaving in some heavies.

If you need the power control right away, build to sp2 first to place the wither and a few heavies to slow down the power gain.

Always remember to dex often to keep pausing your debuffs.

EDIT: forgot to tag you @Reference lol

Thanks a lot for detailed guidance😉

cur53d

Take him to r3 and bring him to AW and have fun soloing the boss

Stebo_79

I was really underwhelmed with Spidey99 at first, but over time I’ve come to appreciate what he has in his locker. He’s not a champ for all occasions, but there are times when he really shines. Plus I love his animations and how smooth he is to fight with,

TyEdge

I felt like the sig stones he got were very well spent. At sig 100, ruptures have a 54.6% chance to refresh. That’s a huge bump. If you get a heavy and a special 1 before your special 2, you’ll get a ton of burst damage. Resonate mastery also helps there. He’s also great on certain cavalier EQs