Safeguard in Battlegrounds

ShaggyM

This node made the fights so long. Ik you have to bring more DOT champs but you don't always draw the right ones and some defenders have several immunities. I'm sure it was somewhat intended but it's a bit of a chore now.

Whiskey_Poet

Exactly my thoughts on beta -2.0. Was just complaining about this in Line chats. Safeguard is fine vs. in game opponents, but against players that run Willpower this is going to be ridiculous. Some Champs have limited counters, anyway, but now you have to counter the champ, safeguard, and Willpower. I'll try a few fights, but will probably sit this beta out. *shrug*

Raichu626

I liked it more than maso in the few fights I just played tbh

Whiskey_Poet

Nice that they aren't doing free mastery resets either, so if you already have Willpower you will win unless those that didn't have it active pay to reset. Classic.

willrun4adonut

Is safeguard the only node? I haven't jumped in yet to find out.

Raichu626

willrun4adonut said:

Is safeguard the only node? I haven't jumped in yet to find out.

With attack and health boosts, but yeah. Just safeguard

Squirrelguy

I mean, it just adds a level of difficulty that everyone has to face. There are ways around it, and many champion combos that can bypass it. It challenges your knowledge of the game, but it also challenges your roster. Battlegrounds is ideally played by someone with a reasonably wide roster that can account for different nodes and bot just rely on one or two specific champs.

I realize that isn't fun, but just how it is. Here is some advice: there are a number of champions with abilities that get around the safeguard node but aren't the traditional debuff-reliant champs. Kitty has passive debuffs, Guardian and other champs that deal extra damage on crits are great for this, power sting champs are solid (still a debuff but rarely are champs immune to it), etc.

Arguments about willpower are also kinda misplaced. Different masteries are clearly going to give you different advantages and disadvantages in the game. Willpower doesn't help robots, jut also, as a side note. Similarly to willpower, suicide mastery users get a huge boost from those in Battlegrounds, as do champs who run other particularly chosen masteries. That's kinda how they work.

Pussaley

Tried and closed BG almost at once. No fun to deal with safeguard to be honest. Probably skip this BG once again. I didn’t like it.

GrassKnuckles

I don’t think it’s any worse then masochism

J0eySn0w

I don’t mind it, it’s another kind of difficulty and I don’t expect to play the same level of difficulty. It test you champion and fighting abilities in a different angle that’s not the same as masochism. You may have to you adjust your champion deck and also the attackers and defender you pick so so forth. Also, you’re dealing with the same node as your opponent so if it sucks, you’re both in it.
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What I do hate about it is the bugs we have to deal with almost all the time in this game.




I technically won this matchup but after my second fight it crashed. Smh

ShaggyM

I don't think safeguard is more difficult than masochism it's just way longer. Masochism is more of a skill based node and safeguard is more of a roster based node especially combined with limited usage of your champs now imo. It definitely takes the addictive side out of it. The fights being longer and having to wait for champs to refresh it'll cut down the amount I play battlegrounds considerably.

GinjabredMonsta

J0eySn0w said:

I don’t mind it, it’s another kind of difficulty and I don’t expect to play the same level of difficulty. It test you champion and fighting abilities in a different angle that’s not the same as masochism. You may have to you adjust your champion deck and also the attackers and defender you pick so so forth. Also, you’re dealing with the same node as your opponent so if it sucks, you’re both in it.
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What I do hate about it is the bugs we have to deal with almost all the time in this game.




I technically won this matchup but after my second fight it crashed. Smh

I saw this and thought it was me vs you...but alas

Toasty

Imo it’s kind of a lot for a two minute time limit, if you don’t have a dot champ that isn’t countered by a defenders immunity you basically can’t do anything

FiiNCH

ShaggyM said:

I don't think safeguard is more difficult than masochism it's just way longer. Masochism is more of a skill based node and safeguard is more of a roster based node especially combined with limited usage of your champs now imo. It definitely takes the addictive side out of it. The fights being longer and having to wait for champs to refresh it'll cut down the amount I play battlegrounds considerably.

Recharging a champion costs 1 gold though so it’s nothing at all really.

D_Ace_71

J0eySn0w said:

I don’t mind it, it’s another kind of difficulty and I don’t expect to play the same level of difficulty. It test you champion and fighting abilities in a different angle that’s not the same as masochism. You may have to you adjust your champion deck and also the attackers and defender you pick so so forth. Also, you’re dealing with the same node as your opponent so if it sucks, you’re both in it.
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What I do hate about it is the bugs we have to deal with almost all the time in this game.




I technically won this matchup but after my second fight it crashed. Smh

I had the exact same black screen o’ death. And I also “won” though I know I lost, it was the third fight, and I had the worse matchup and got whupped, then that screen came up and…win. Feel bad for the other guy.

J_Garra

I agree, masochism was much better. Fight was still challenging and required some strategy. Safeguard has made moves like Shang-chi’s SP2 irrelevant. Damage over time champs highly benefit from this node.

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J0eySn0w

What I do not like is the b

D_Ace_71 said:

J0eySn0w said:

I don’t mind it, it’s another kind of difficulty and I don’t expect to play the same level of difficulty. It test you champion and fighting abilities in a different angle that’s not the same as masochism. You may have to you adjust your champion deck and also the attackers and defender you pick so so forth. Also, you’re dealing with the same node as your opponent so if it sucks, you’re both in it.
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What I do hate about it is the bugs we have to deal with almost all the time in this game.




I technically won this matchup but after my second fight it crashed. Smh

I had the exact same black screen o’ death. And I also “won” though I know I lost, it was the third fight, and I had the worse matchup and got whupped, then that screen came up and…win. Feel bad for the other guy.

Sucks that these things happens but what can you do. Pretty sure he’ll also get a win from someone else’s crash 😅

Pikolu

I have been loving this, there are many ways around safeguard. Falcon shuts it off, anyone who lowers defensive ability accuracy shuts it off. I use Medusa against robots because armor shattered shuts it off. HT can murder any enemy that is mystic or does energy damage. AA is good. BWDO is good. Nebula has been a beast for me. NF can do very well. Sigil witch does amazing.
Every single safeguard fight I've done has been shorter than the masochism fights last time.

Skydad23

Safeguards sucks!

Skiddy212

Im assuming the special nodes like safeguard will change season to season or something, but yes, definitely sucks