DPX Buff Miss - no guns, regen, or teleport?

The animations are funny but the slap mechanic is a horrible way to have to charge up for his “big damage”, especially with inputs still being a very big problem.

In the end he just hits things with swords and that’s it.

This fees like a missed opportunity for such a popular character, like if you gave wolverine claw attacks and no regen or rage (Wolvie X). Storm got such an insane buff. I had such high hopes for Deadpool.

And outside of his vicious buff, Fury does way more bleed damage way more consistently and has vastly more utility. DP’s bleeds cooldown is way too long if that’s his primary source of damage. Not to mention Fury’s synergy’s are incredible and DP some minor stat buffs with his new ones.

Please try again. Gamora got like 3 attempts and she’s way less popular than DP.

Comments

Havanaknight

No callouts. Some mouth…

Sceptilemaniac

I really love the animations and the playstyle but I do have my concerns.
1.) Since the taunt can only reliably be applied on offence through a heavy attack (the reach of which is sub par to say the least) it totally takes the utility of Deadpool out of fights where you can't reliably stun the opponent or have a penalty for doing so like in the EOP fights.
2.) The damage is average. Without deep wounds and suicides, the damage is bang on average which is totally not a problem IF Deadpool had enough utility to support it.
3.) Bleed immune matchups. Absolutely garbage damage against bleed immune opponents. With more and more characters being bleed resistant or debuff shrugging or anything as such, this makes dpool a terrible option for those matchups.

All this combined with the fact that super slap charges would be incredibly difficult to build up against offensive opponents, and the payoff isn't nearly worth it
(Also the sp2 is fancy, very, but it serves absolutely no purpose. You can get 1, at the maximum 2 slap charges and it deals negligible damage)

I'd say with a few minor tweaks this would be an amazing buff.
Eg. To give him some other method of applying taunts. Intercepts maybe? A chance on basic attacks? Apply a taunt with duodenum poke? (It has a cooldown of 4 seconds so could work)

Give him some other form of damage in the sp2. Maybe prowess, maybe some other debuff (rupture, direct damage) anything.

Jestuh

I really love the animations and the playstyle but I do have my concerns.
1.) Since the taunt can only reliably be applied on offence through a heavy attack (the reach of which is sub par to say the least) it totally takes the utility of Deadpool out of fights where you can't reliably stun the opponent or have a penalty for doing so like in the EOP fights.
2.) The damage is average. Without deep wounds and suicides, the damage is bang on average which is totally not a problem IF Deadpool had enough utility to support it.
3.) Bleed immune matchups. Absolutely garbage damage against bleed immune opponents. With more and more characters being bleed resistant or debuff shrugging or anything as such, this makes dpool a terrible option for those matchups.

All this combined with the fact that super slap charges would be incredibly difficult to build up against offensive opponents, and the payoff isn't nearly worth it
(Also the sp2 is fancy, very, but it serves absolutely no purpose. You can get 1, at the maximum 2 slap charges and it deals negligible damage)

I'd say with a few minor tweaks this would be an amazing buff.
Eg. To give him some other method of applying taunts. Intercepts maybe? A chance on basic attacks? Apply a taunt with duodenum poke? (It has a cooldown of 4 seconds so could work)

Give him some other form of damage in the sp2. Maybe prowess, maybe some other debuff (rupture, direct damage) anything.

100% this.

His s2 is especially weak. It looks so cool and then you look at the health bars and buff areas and nothing happens. Throw some regen on that. Have him lick the gun or inhale the gun smoke too while I’m making a wish list. 🤣

Or put vicious on his s2 and then make his s3 way better with regen and power gain. I liked his s1.

And I completely agree with putting too much emphasis on his very bad heavy attack. It has almost no range. Plus it’s a slow charging alheavy so tough to do intercepts. And since the heavy is his main source of damage he’s basically useless against anyone that’s stun immune or debuff shrugs, not to mention all the bleed immune champs and debuff shruggers.

Kingpin, crossbones, agent venom, moleman, Elsa, ronin, and aegon can all debuff shrug or have tenacity. Deadpool is useless against these types too despite having class advantage.

His buff needs so much more or he’ll just continue to ride the bench.

Primis00

Yeah he really needs more. The mutant is such an insane class of champions that to even try and compete you need to be more than twice as good as Deadpool is with the new buff. There really isnt much reason to pick him over other mutants. His animations sure are cool but cool animations with very little damage still feels trash to play.

o_o

No callouts. Some mouth…

RiderofHell

The animations are funny but the slap mechanic is a horrible way to have to charge up for his “big damage”, especially with inputs still being a very big problem.

In the end he just hits things with swords and that’s it.

This fees like a missed opportunity for such a popular character, like if you gave wolverine claw attacks and no regen or rage (Wolvie X). Storm got such an insane buff. I had such high hopes for Deadpool.

And outside of his vicious buff, Fury does way more bleed damage way more consistently and has vastly more utility. DP’s bleeds cooldown is way too long if that’s his primary source of damage. Not to mention Fury’s synergy’s are incredible and DP some minor stat buffs with his new ones.

Please try again. Gamora got like 3 attempts and she’s way less popular than DP.

You struggle with skipping towards the defender? Clearly that isn't a problem lol

Jestuh

The animations are funny but the slap mechanic is a horrible way to have to charge up for his “big damage”, especially with inputs still being a very big problem.

In the end he just hits things with swords and that’s it.

This fees like a missed opportunity for such a popular character, like if you gave wolverine claw attacks and no regen or rage (Wolvie X). Storm got such an insane buff. I had such high hopes for Deadpool.

And outside of his vicious buff, Fury does way more bleed damage way more consistently and has vastly more utility. DP’s bleeds cooldown is way too long if that’s his primary source of damage. Not to mention Fury’s synergy’s are incredible and DP some minor stat buffs with his new ones.

Please try again. Gamora got like 3 attempts and she’s way less popular than DP.
You struggle with skipping towards the defender? Clearly that isn't a problem lol

When dex keeps getting dropped because of buggy inputs, yeah it’s a frustrating mechanic. Even when dex works it’s not an interesting mechanic.

GrandOldKai

His heavy seems to have massive pushback in the corner.

I don't think he'd get much out of heavy chaining, though.

Anyway, I like his new animations - but that's sadly about it.

He feels like a weird awkward Skill champ (though, technically, he should be) with a Taunt mechanic... bleed, bleed...

Am I missing something with his updated kit?

Deacon

not every buff is meant to make a champion OP. he is much more fun to play than how he was to me. animations are super slick. i mean he's not going to be your top choice in any scenario and that's fine. BUT i guarantee he'll be played more now post buff and that's really the intent of buffs ... to make champions more playable.

i know i'll be using him more which is 100% more than what i used to LOL

BitterSteel

not every buff is meant to make a champion OP.

Nobody is asking him to be OP, but we are asking for him to have more abilities than a 2017 champ.

Sparky literally outclasses Deadpool and he was made 5 years ago. Taunt, stun, power drain, evade specials, more damage.

This buff is about 5 and a half years late.

Deacon

not every buff is meant to make a champion OP.
Nobody is asking him to be OP, but we are asking for him to have more abilities than a 2017 champ.

Sparky literally outclasses Deadpool and he was made 5 years ago. Taunt, stun, power drain, evade specials, more damage.

This buff is about 5 and a half years late.

OP was just to say not every buff is going to be one that moves the proverbial needle ya know. Look at Gamora ... people still don't like her buff but I do ... I think it served its purpose. Yondu is the same. it's nothing to go EOP with but it'll make him more playable.

Sure the numbers or utility could have been a thing but again, that's not the intent of the buff in most cases. It's to first, make them more playable. And he is definitely more playable now at least to me ...if only for his animations lol he's more fun to play.

Zuko_ILC

245 hits to take down rol winter soldier. Buff was pointless in my opinion.

Lovejoy72

I honestly think people are missing the point. Deadpool X force was a meme, a meme that was losing its status. They buffed the meme, and successfully, I’d say. He still essentially offensively pointless, but far funnier.

Lpoo

I honestly think people are missing the point. Deadpool X force was a meme, a meme that was losing its status. They buffed the meme, and successfully, I’d say. He still essentially offensively pointless, but far funnier.

I don’t think this was the purpose of the buff

Jestuh

not every buff is meant to make a champion OP.
Nobody is asking him to be OP, but we are asking for him to have more abilities than a 2017 champ.

Sparky literally outclasses Deadpool and he was made 5 years ago. Taunt, stun, power drain, evade specials, more damage.

This buff is about 5 and a half years late.
OP was just to say not every buff is going to be one that moves the proverbial needle ya know. Look at Gamora ... people still don't like her buff but I do ... I think it served its purpose. Yondu is the same. it's nothing to go EOP with but it'll make him more playable.

Sure the numbers or utility could have been a thing but again, that's not the intent of the buff in most cases. It's to first, make them more playable. And he is definitely more playable now at least to me ...if only for his animations lol he's more fun to play.

He was so bad before you could have done literally anything to make him “more playable”.

I don’t think the goal should be more playable. I think they should make people want to put him on their team instead of other champs.

Tasty_Yum_Yums

I see this as another Ebony Maw, needing multiple buffs/tweaks.

Lovejoy72

I honestly think people are missing the point. Deadpool X force was a meme, a meme that was losing its status. They buffed the meme, and successfully, I’d say. He still essentially offensively pointless, but far funnier.
I don’t think this was the purpose of the buff

In life, there is no other point than buffing the meme.

GlazzyBear

It almost seems like the length of his ability pages stayed the same. What a rushed feeling buff, and it's almost like the animations were more of a focus than the useability of Xpool. His damage is honestly about the same, just in bursts now with his slap and walk playstyle. Feels like his specials are missing something because all you're doing in the fight is slapping and idling. Wish he had some prowess and concussion to give him some extra utility, as well as a shorter bleed cooldown. Kabam needs to go back to the drawing board with this champion like with Maw and Gamora

Graves_3

245 hits to take down rol winter soldier. Buff was pointless in my opinion.

What rank? R1 six star got Bucky down in 117 hits. The damage is there but it’s not practical in high end content.

ESF

245 hits to take down rol winter soldier. Buff was pointless in my opinion.
What rank? R1 six star got Bucky down in 117 hits. The damage is there but it’s not practical in high end content.

This is what I am seeing — it’s a quirky rotation that’s not for everyone, but there’s some DPS there with maybe three points minimum in Deep Wounds.

The problem is the second part of your assessment feels more true than not, especially if the kit isn’t duped. I hunted around for a decent lane to actually test the kit and found one Do Not Go Gentle lane in 6.2.5, the one that starts with Hela. You can absolutely play the kit there, but man, NGL, it’s hard to find other lanes where you say, “Yeah, I am doing that with DPX.”

I am still testing, and I actually do like the buff. But it’s been challenging for me to find a place where people might feel good about using the kit, especially with input issues popping up sporadically.

I do like it, but that’s just being honest

Deacon

now that I think about it ... why no regen at least??? lol

Saiyan

Voodoo, X-23, Rogue, Hyperion and Red Hulk are all champs from 2016 that weren't buffed since (RH was but it was way back when) and somehow a 2022 champ updated is still worse than them?

X-23 - Bleed damage does more and has regen, has actually good synergies AND does well with the mutant synergies

Hyperion - Well he's always good

Voodoo - Can do more damage when built alittle and has multiple utility like regen, AAR, Power drain, power burn and poisons.

Red Hulk - Super high physical resist, mystic killer, passive damage that gets really good at 10 charges, poison and incinerate removal, regen, part of a great trinity synergy team.

Rogue - 70% debuff duration, Regen, Power Steal, Buff steal

DPX 2022 - Ok Bleed, Taunt, Power gain IF awakened, not so good synergies and doesn't really gain much from mutants like Prof X or being a horseman, heavy reliant champ with a garbage heavy range, annoying skipping mechanic that won't work vs many different Nodes, Abilities, AI, etc.

How does that work? How is a 2022 champ worse than ones SIX years before?

BigPoppaCBONE

Another swing and a miss except for the animations. They're godly but the abilities still suck. The slap mechanic shouldn't be capped at 10 since his bleed is so weak. Indefinite capped at 20 with charges beyond that falling off over time would be better. Deadpool applying a special lockout buff or passive to the opponent would have been something novel that couldn't be shrugged off and maybe a trillion times better than the weak taunts he got.

Strangecraft069

Uhh he can't Regen, he just can't
He has a color suppressing his mutant abilities

GinjabredMonsta

Uhh he can't Regen, he just can't
He has a color suppressing his mutant abilities

He's the green lantern?

unknown

This content has been removed.

Lovejoy72

Uhh he can't Regen, he just can't
He has a color suppressing his mutant abilities
He's the green lantern?

Wasn’t he?

GinjabredMonsta

Uhh he can't Regen, he just can't
He has a color suppressing his mutant abilities
He's the green lantern?
Wasn’t he?

I try to forget

AMS94

I have no complaints in the animation department, but the buff is just pointless
He is better than before but still almost useless except for someone who is still doing Acts 1-2 or 3
However he is probably much more annoying on defense now bcoz he's 100% more likely to use Sp2, which seems like a nightmare to dex perfectly

RobbieRampage

Both buffs this month seem weak. I'm trying to remember the last buff it seemed like they actually nailed. They all seem so so recently. I don't think I've ranked up a 2022 buff champ and I have most as 6*s, which is sad considering I ranked up 5 buffed champs in a row in 2021. Buffs being lower in quality AND quantity this year really sucks. It's hard to get excited for a buff when it just feels like they're not going to deliver.

They have the champ rework program for new champs and like 5-6 buff that seem sub par. I get Storm does a lot of damage, but she did decent damage before and doesn't have anything interesting going for her that would make me rank her up.