Let’s talk about new released champs so far in 2022

RvzRvz Member Posts: 182 ★★
edited June 2022 in General Discussion
Hey guys
IMO, the 12 champs so far this year are kinda disappointing. Nowhere near Hercules or kitty level. Maybe Kabam’s gonna release more powerful champs in the latter year? I mean we do have some exciting champs such as omega sentinel, Hulkling and scorpion, and we’re hyped about next 6 star featured crystal, but still not the champs that everybody needs in their roster. My list is like this: Wiccan is not included
1 omega sentinel
2 Hulking (hated by homophobia)
3 scorpion (kinda surprised me)

4 Black cat
5 Sam Wilson
6 Rintrah
7 Wong
8 Toad
9 Misty Knight
10 Captain Britain
11 Sauron

Your thoughts?
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  • Vance2_jrVance2_jr Member Posts: 760 ★★★
    Rintrah is a flat out monster. Easily one of my favorite champs from last two years.


    But why exclude Wiccan?
  • PapaMidnite007PapaMidnite007 Member Posts: 1,622 ★★★★
    I have to disagree very strongly you are severely underestimating those champs
  • AzKicker316AzKicker316 Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Your top 3 is the same as mine with regards to the new champs, but Wiccan should be included and is easily in my top 4. The other champs are underrated and I'm happy with the 2022 champs so far, seems balanced to me
  • RvzRvz Member Posts: 182 ★★
    Vance2_jr said:

    Rintrah is a flat out monster. Easily one of my favorite champs from last two years.


    But why exclude Wiccan?

    Because 3 star is not enough to show how good he is IMO. That’s why he doesn’t count temporarily.
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  • jbxotiicjbxotiic Member Posts: 145 ★
    I'd say osent is easily sa good as herc and kitty, I've been using her a lot and she just works so well
  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    How many people even have all of these champs to try them out? I have a stacked paragon roster and I only have one of the 2022 champs.

    Unless you have these champs and tried them out heavily, trying to rank them can't be taken seriously as you aren't speaking from experience and are going off what others have said.

    Those who rank champs based on what they see on yt vids probably don't realize how easy it is to make a decent champ look op or vice versa when playing in specific situations.
  • PowerOfACandlePowerOfACandle Member Posts: 337 ★★★
    You don't know how to use them.
  • RvzRvz Member Posts: 182 ★★
    Chatterofforums said:

    How many people even have all of these champs to try them out? I have a stacked paragon roster and I only have one of the 2022 champs.

    Unless you have these champs and tried them out heavily, trying to rank them can't be taken seriously as you aren't speaking from experience and are going off what others have said.

    Those who rank champs based on what they see on yt vids probably don't realize how easy it is to make a decent champ look op or vice versa when playing in specific situations.

    Bro I have 6 of these champs as 6 star and all of them as 5 star. The judgement is not only based on YouTube videos but also from my personal game play.
  • Malreck04Malreck04 Member Posts: 3,327 ★★★★★
    Rvz said:

    Vance2_jr said:

    Rintrah is a flat out monster. Easily one of my favorite champs from last two years.


    But why exclude Wiccan?

    Because 3 star is not enough to show how good he is IMO. That’s why he doesn’t count temporarily.
    How clueless are you?
  • Avi146Avi146 Member Posts: 313 ★★
    Rvz said:

    Hey guys
    IMO, the 12 champs so far this year are kinda disappointing. Nowhere near Hercules or kitty level. Maybe Kabam’s gonna release more powerful champs in the latter year? I mean we do have some exciting champs such as omega sentinel, Hulkling and scorpion, and we’re hyped about next 6 star featured crystal, but still not the champs that everybody needs in their roster. My list is like this: Wiccan is not included
    1 omega sentinel
    2 Hulking (hated by homophobia)
    3 scorpion (kinda surprised me)

    4 Black cat
    5 Sam Wilson
    6 Rintrah
    7 Wong
    8 Toad
    9 Misty Knight
    10 Captain Britain
    11 Sauron

    Your thoughts?

    1. Imo Misty Knight should be above Toad
    2. These champs (except Omega Sentinel) have nice utilities. Not the best at everything but awesome at what they do.
    3. Ngl I love these champs more now that we already have Hercules ghost and kitty and even doom who can basically do everything
  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Rvz said:

    Chatterofforums said:

    How many people even have all of these champs to try them out? I have a stacked paragon roster and I only have one of the 2022 champs.

    Unless you have these champs and tried them out heavily, trying to rank them can't be taken seriously as you aren't speaking from experience and are going off what others have said.

    Those who rank champs based on what they see on yt vids probably don't realize how easy it is to make a decent champ look op or vice versa when playing in specific situations.

    Bro I have 6 of these champs as 6 star and all of them as 5 star. The judgement is not only based on YouTube videos but also from my personal game play.
    Well you have waaaay better features luck than me :) Also, I wasn't accusing of anything, was just asking a clarifying question as people ranking champs they have never even used is extremely common in this game.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,004 Guardian
    Rankings are subjective and most of this "he/she is better than him/her" is nonsense.
  • Avi146Avi146 Member Posts: 313 ★★
    edited June 2022
    pseudosane said:

    Rankings are subjective and most of this "he/she is better than him/her" is nonsense.

    I agree Nick Fury is not better than Moonknight
    That’s nonsense
    It’s subjective
  • 13579rebel_13579rebel_ Member Posts: 2,812 ★★★★★
    My list

    1 Scorpion [Love this dude]
    2 Omega Sentinel [Close To 1]
    3 Hulkling [Love the unique Playstyle]
    4 Black Cat [Love Her Abilities]
    5 Wong [Simple Loop Fun Time]
    6 Capt. Sam [Crazy Utility]
    7 Toad [Great Defense Best Mutant of 2022]
    8 Rintrah [very Fun if you crit it's Great]
    9 Capt. Betsy [If you're Willing To Wait Then She's Fine Still Mad that it's not Brian]
    10 Misty Knight [Weird Balancing Act Champ But Unblockable And Guaranteed Crits are nice]
    11 Sauron [Not as bad as I first Thought but still not great]
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  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    Avi146 said:

    pseudosane said:

    Rankings are subjective and most of this "he/she is better than him/her" is nonsense.

    I agree Nick Fury is not better than Moonknight
    That’s nonsense
    It’s subjective
    That's a very lopsided sarcastic example. I believe what he meant was many (he didn't say all) champs can be better than others based on circumstances. For example, Nick Fury (who you mentioned) can be better than many skill champs on a lot of content, but with emphasis on champs and nodes that allow bleed. In other content, especially long content, aegon might be better. In other content or with "suicides" on, king pin might be better.

    Of course there will be examples where one champ is clearly better but very often, especially with newer champs, it is often that there is no an "always best" champ and nodes, defender, synergies and masteries can impact who is "better" and when they are "better".
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,803 Guardian
    Rvz said:

    Your thoughts?

    My thought is that it is posts like these that demonstrate why it is extremely dangerous for the devs to make champs like Hercules and Kitty.
  • Heir_of_thanosHeir_of_thanos Member Posts: 58 ★
    Excuse me? The majority of those champs are insane. Black Cat, hulkling, omega sentinel and rintrah have crazy damage. Scorpion has completely broken utility and his burst damage is absolutely nutty. You can’t just overlook 200-600k sp2 burst damage. Now I’ll admit some of these champs have been misses (looking at you Sauron) but the majority of them are awesome.
  • ShadowstrikeShadowstrike Member Posts: 3,110 ★★★★★
    Every summer we have some version of this thread come up evaluating all the Champions that have been released so far and you know what is the most consistent thing about these lists?

    It's that they're always made with short-term perspective, if you go back through last year's list and re-evaluate them now with the knowledge and the time and the experience, I guarantee you their reception would be a hell of a lot better than what they were upon release.

    Not every Champion is going to be Beyond god tier and not every Beyond god tier Champion was so beloved upon release. You go back in time and you're going to see criticisms about Apocalypse, Corvus Glaive, Doctor Doom, there was even criticisms about Hercules and Cosmic Ghost Rider. Time and perspective are the true judges of whether Champion is good or not.
  • Avi146Avi146 Member Posts: 313 ★★
    Chatterofforums said:

    Avi146 said:

    pseudosane said:

    Rankings are subjective and most of this "he/she is better than him/her" is nonsense.

    I agree Nick Fury is not better than Moonknight
    That’s nonsense
    It’s subjective
    That's a very lopsided sarcastic example. I believe what he meant was many (he didn't say all) champs can be better than others based on circumstances. For example, Nick Fury (who you mentioned) can be better than many skill champs on a lot of content, but with emphasis on champs and nodes that allow bleed. In other content, especially long content, aegon might be better. In other content or with "suicides" on, king pin might be better.

    Of course there will be examples where one champ is clearly better but very often, especially with newer champs, it is often that there is no an "always best" champ and nodes, defender, synergies and masteries can impact who is "better" and when they are "better".
    Ik ik lol I was just messing
  • Stagedear85Stagedear85 Member Posts: 774 ★★★
    I have to Agree, i know its unpopular but if we are being honest here then in my opinion there's not one champ that came out this year that let me say hmmm ill use this champ over this one, example i have corvus at rank 4 and i use Hercules and also Knull alot more now , i use Kitty Pryde at times and don't even bother with magneto i feel this year there's no champ that came out where i say hmmm let me not use Doom, Hercules, magneto, human torch or spidey 2099 , Cosmic Ghost Rider or Black Widow CV. Champs came out this year so far if you have a new Account they're good but to me there's not one champ that excites me where I'm saying i need this champ because they're an account changer, i have not spend on 1 Cav crystal this year because not one champs so far had value to my roster.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    Vance2_jr said:

    Rintrah is a flat out monster. Easily one of my favorite champs from last two years.


    But why exclude Wiccan?

    How do you play Rintrah? I have the 5* and 6* and while I like him and find him sturdy, I don’t really have a rotation I can find that works great for him.

    Any advice?

    Dr. Zola
  • ShadowstrikeShadowstrike Member Posts: 3,110 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    Vance2_jr said:

    Rintrah is a flat out monster. Easily one of my favorite champs from last two years.


    But why exclude Wiccan?

    How do you play Rintrah? I have the 5* and 6* and while I like him and find him sturdy, I don’t really have a rotation I can find that works great for him.

    Any advice?

    Dr. Zola
    I believe to get the best out of Rintrah, you need to Corner your opponent and launch a special two
  • GrassKnucklesGrassKnuckles Member Posts: 1,948 ★★★★★
    How can you complain about the fact that all 11 of those are good champs. Look at the first half of 2021. There were definitely some duds but we have had 0 in this first half of the year, assuming Wiccan is decent.

    Not every champ has to have CGR damage, Warlock utility, or Hercs sustainability.
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