Diablo without MD or Moleman without Deep Wounds?

Polygon

I run suicides

With suicides, you can only run deep wounds or MD, but not both.

I’m torn between r4ing KP or MM because MM benefits more from suicides whereas KP sp1 is better than the sp2 for most of the time , since it gives less attack rating and DAAR. So you end up losing more health from recoil, but the r4 can potentially end fights faster with higher attack and more health (for health loss from liquid courage/double edge)

Moleman shreds with suicides and takes off so much health before recoil even makes a difference, but he benefits a ton from max deep wounds.

But if I max deep wounds, I can’t fit points into MD for diablo, who’s also very good with suicides.

Ace2319

Drop MD and go Moleman

I’d still take Diablo up

Saquongoat

Drop DW and go Diablo / MD (you can just r4 KP over MM)

Diablo is spectacular, and where kingpin+Diablo is a devastating synergy duo, moleman actually makes Diablo worse. Diablo Diablo Diablo

Karatemike415

Drop DW and go Diablo/MD but still r4 MM

Mole Man doesn't need Deep Wounds and Diablo doesn't need Mystic Dispersion 🤷🏻‍♂️
Plus, you could always change them at any time.

Diablo sees a larger benefit than Mole from the specific mastery set up in this scenario though.

Polygon

Karatemike415 said:

Mole Man doesn't need Deep Wounds and Diablo doesn't need Mystic Dispersion 🤷🏻‍♂️
Plus, you could always change them at any time.

Diablo sees a larger benefit than Mole from the specific mastery set up in this scenario though.

@Karatemike415 yeah that’s true, but you’d have to spend a lot of units each time. Still praying kabam makes mastery changes free some day.

So you think with suicides, moleman is worth r4 more than KP even if you’re not running DW?

ReignkingTW

Drop MD and go Moleman

Moleman is awesome so whatever that option is

Saint_Mart74

Max out despair mastery. Bleed and poison benefit greatly from it.

LeNoirFaineant

@Polygon I am running full suicides right now with 3 points in MD and 3 points in DW. Happy to post my masteries if you like, but you can run both.

Polygon

LeNoirFaineant said:

@Polygon I am running full suicides right now with 3 points in MD and 3 points in DW. Happy to post my masteries if you like, but you can run both.

@LeNoirFaineant Yeah sure. I assume you have to remove points from things like despair and other valuable offense tree items though

LeNoirFaineant

Polygon said:

LeNoirFaineant said:

@Polygon I am running full suicides right now with 3 points in MD and 3 points in DW. Happy to post my masteries if you like, but you can run both.

@LeNoirFaineant Yeah sure. I assume you have to remove points from things like despair and other valuable offense tree items though

No question. You can't have everything. But I like this setup if you want to run suicides and have mystic d and deep wounds.