Cav EQ nodes and bosses.

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.

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Riptide

It’s more fun this way imo

ItsDamien

Because EQ still needs to have some challenge. Cav EQ is ridiculously easy now compared to when it first released.

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Captainaiden

Ceder

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.

Does it matter? It's ridiculously easy anyways, Arcangel soloes Valkyrie

GinjabredMonsta

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.
Does it matter? It's ridiculously easy anyways, Arcangel soloes Valkyrie

I used mojo

TyEdge

The path is 6 fights. 3 champs take 2 fights each. Two champs split the boss and you’re clear itemless.

I remember one month that prominently featured mini bosses of sorts (I wanna say one was terrax and one was HB?) and it was challenging to build a squad but that was quite a while ago.

Sw0rdMaster

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.

I think this will be hard to implement. Taking your example, each mystic champ has different abilities, so who would you make as the boss so that any mystic champ can counter the boss?

winterthur

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.
I think this will be hard to implement. Taking your example, each mystic champ has different abilities, so who would you make as the boss so that any mystic champ can counter the boss?

Agree. Took me a while to realise a few Mystic champs have no nullify abilities.

Reference

“Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss.”

I don’t think it is necessary, in fact, most of the time the boss in Cav EQ are not favourable for the specific class advantage Act. That’s why sometimes you can’t bring in full team from the same class, not to mention those Cav EQ adding TAGatical advantages.

I like this month’s Cav EQ given new exploration milestone reward; sizeable star ore shards; and take out those TAGactical advantages restrictions.

Hieitaku

Havok in the mystic chapter was the only substandard choice of defender that I recall. Other than that, this is one of the most straightforward EQs for a while. Especially considering the buffed rewarss. Hela with Haunted killed me a couple of times, but I didn't spend any potions for the entire quest.

LordSmasher

Manthing in the skill chapter not great either.
And what's up with that Hela AI? That fight is super bizare.

Bugmat78

It's fine as is. You don't need more than 3-4 attackers at most to do a path in any chapter.

Carry an attack team then 1-2 champs for the boss.

NastyPhish

I’m not complaining about the difficulty or rewards. I feel like the design is at best lazy and at worst, designed specifically to drag items from people that don’t plan out every path. I also completed it itemless this month using almost only r5 5*. Wasn’t hard.

But just because something isn’t a problem, doesn’t mean it can’t be better.

Malreck04

you are precisely complaining about difficulty, and in this situation the only real response is, get good.

Bawa69

i have no issues with the difficulty i just question some of the defender placements....last month was the worst in terms of defender placements complete units sink in most cases....this time too the havok in mystic chapter....the manthing and silver centurian in skill chapter was ill thought of...just what i feel..

NastyPhish

you are precisely complaining about difficulty, and in this situation the only real response is, get good.

No. That’s why I used different words. I meant something else.

Again. It’s not hard. It’s poorly designed.

ItsDamien

you are precisely complaining about difficulty, and in this situation the only real response is, get good.
No. That’s why I used different words. I meant something else.

Again. It’s not hard. It’s poorly designed.

And why exactly is it “poorly designed”? Because I don’t think that’s the case at all.

NastyPhish

you are precisely complaining about difficulty, and in this situation the only real response is, get good.
No. That’s why I used different words. I meant something else.

Again. It’s not hard. It’s poorly designed.
And why exactly is it “poorly designed”? Because I don’t think that’s the case at all.

Because the paths and bosses aren’t correlated. Pretty simple.

ItsDamien

you are precisely complaining about difficulty, and in this situation the only real response is, get good.
No. That’s why I used different words. I meant something else.

Again. It’s not hard. It’s poorly designed.
And why exactly is it “poorly designed”? Because I don’t think that’s the case at all.
Because the paths and bosses aren’t correlated. Pretty simple.

That doesn’t mean it’s poorly designed at all. Come on, give me a real reason.

NastyPhish

Are you actually serious? Or you one of those forums goblins? If you don’t understand how that’s poor design, there is no helping you.

Colinwhitworth69

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.

It's been this way a long time. I usually bring four champs for the path and one for the boss. The paths are only six fights plus the boss.

NastyPhish

Yeah,

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.
It's been this way a long time. I usually bring four champs for the path and one for the boss. The paths are only six fights plus the boss.

I get that’s it’s been this way for a while. What I’m saying is the way it’s been, is bad. Which by the way is my opinion. Not everyone is gonna agree. But I feel like it’s lazy at best and intentional at worst. And really, just unnecessary. Sorta like how the class cav nodes are removed off the boss. Always found that odd. Or dumb. Whichever you prefer.

In fact if things were more correlated. Difficulty could actually go up. And nodes reading, (everyone’s favorite) would go down.

Colinwhitworth69

Yeah,
Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.
It's been this way a long time. I usually bring four champs for the path and one for the boss. The paths are only six fights plus the boss.
I get that’s it’s been this way for a while. What I’m saying is the way it’s been, is bad. Which by the way is my opinion. Not everyone is gonna agree. But I feel like it’s lazy at best and intentional at worst. And really, just unnecessary. Sorta like how the class cav nodes are removed off the boss. Always found that odd. Or dumb. Whichever you prefer.

In fact if things were more correlated. Difficulty could actually go up. And nodes reading, (everyone’s favorite) would go down.

I think it is just a challenge they added for us. Good luck.

Panchulon21

It’s really not bad at all, just being 4 of the champs you need for the lines and 1 champ for the boss. Should clear it with plenty of health to spare.

I ran 2 lines in the cosmic quest with just captain marvel in binary and had 4.5 champs left for the boss

DNA3000

Are you actually serious? Or you one of those forums goblins? If you don’t understand how that’s poor design, there is no helping you.

Explain like I'm a person who's designed content for games.

Design is measured against intent. When someone says something is poorly designed because it doesn't do X, they have an obligation to explain why X is even desirable or necessary. And there is no game design rule that says bosses must require the same optimal options as minions. That doesn't make the map better designed, it just makes the map easier. But why does it have to be easier?

Once upon a time EQ maps didn't have strong map or path identities. Were they all "poorly designed" as a result?

The question is, are the map/path identities there to make it easier to reach the boss, or are they there to make it easier to defeat the boss. If the intent is to reward players who assemble optimal teams from their roster by accelerating them *to* the boss, but not to make the boss fight itself easier, then the maps are properly designed. If the intent is to reward players to assemble optimal teams from their roster by making the entire map easier, then it is poorly designed.

I think it is far more likely that the design intent is the former and not the latter. This would then make Cav EQ more consistent with, well, everywhere else that has such map/path identities. Particularly in Act 7, where boss islands are completely independent from map identities for similar reasons.

It also seems more consistent with general design principles for cyclical content in progressional games. Repetitive content is about trading time for progression, and it is common to reward players who make progress in the game (in this case roster growth progress) by accelerating their speed through such content. But if this also applies to the boss itself, it makes the content less interesting in general, and the game loses the psychological benefit of accelerating the path to the boss.

Demonzfyre

Why aren’t the chapters designed better? Like if it’s the mystic chapter, a mystic should be the best option for the boss. Etc. it’s really not hard. But y’all act like it’s rocket science.

Get it together.

You have 5 champ slots. 1-2 champs can handle the paths and bring a counter to the boss. Pretty simple.

Demonzfyre

you are precisely complaining about difficulty, and in this situation the only real response is, get good.
No. That’s why I used different words. I meant something else.

Again. It’s not hard. It’s poorly designed.
And why exactly is it “poorly designed”? Because I don’t think that’s the case at all.
Because the paths and bosses aren’t correlated. Pretty simple.

So Kabam can never add 2 champs of the same class type ever again like they've done dozens of times in the past?

This is a YOU problem for sure. There's a lot to not like about Cav EQ but boss selection isnt one of them.

Shiroihara

I’m not complaining about the difficulty or rewards. I feel like the design is at best lazy and at worst, designed specifically to drag items from people that don’t plan out every path. I also completed it itemless this month using almost only r5 5*. Wasn’t hard.

But just because something isn’t a problem, doesn’t mean it can’t be better.

“Drag items from people”. Quit out and bring a counter for that fight if you went in blind.
No one is making anyone do anything dude. There’s a whole month to do the event.

Spurgeon14

The only thing that bugs me the more and more I play this game is that we can only bring 5 champs at once. Not because for content like this I need more champs, but just because with so many champs ranked up and more and more being added as the weeks, months, and years go by, I just wish we could bring in more champs for synergies and/or fun. I hate leaving so many champs on the bench.